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aceofspades
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August 13th, 2013 at 3:14:26 PM permalink
So this past weekend I was in Atlantic City. Now, I must give you some background info prior to moving forward...a floorperson that used to work at another casino started working at the casino I now frequent when it opened. She had always been somewhat of a "mush" for me and actually took pleasure ( sarcastic, maybe? ) in being a "cooler" when I was playing. When this new casino first opened and I saw her working there, I stayed away from any pit she happened to be working at. However, one time I Was playing (and losing badly) and she came up behind me. Apparently, she had been on a break from the pit I was playing in. I immediately removed myself and she said "Can't take the heat?" - I told her I did not think her comments were funny - to which she laughed. I asked that she no longer address me if she saw me as I would no longer place myself in her pit. A couple of weeks later, I felt a sharp pain on my earlobe while sitting at a bj table. I turned to see the "cooler" laughing behind me...she had just flicked my earlobe while I Was playing. I told her that her behavior was inexcusable, especially in light of my previous conversation with her. She was reprimanded by HR (supposedly).

That was about a year ago and every time I See her at a pit, I avoid that pit. However, lately, she has been in the high limit pit and, during those times, this casino has not had any other 6D, S17 games open. Therefore, when she is in the high limit pit, I avoid it and must wait til the night time shift in order to play at this casino.

This past weekend, there was another pit open with 6D, S17. However, there was only 1 seat open as it was actually crowded (for a change) The one seat that was open was next to a woman that used to be friendly to me - that is, until, I MADE HER LOSE?!?

The situation occurred about a month ago. The shoe started with 3 players plus myself at the table. I won the first five hands and got up, stating I had won my goal for the session. She stated that I was going to ruin the table for everyone and that stopping such an amazing winning streak (5 hands in my favor I suppose was amazing to her) was ludicrous. I informed her that if my seat's amazing win streak was going to continue, that she should play my spot as well...I told her I would be very happy for her to take all the winnings I was supposedly due from staying in that seat. She said "that's not the point" - I said, "the point is not to win? And here I am granting you access to the winningest seat at the table apparently, yet you turn it down?" - she rolled her eyes at me and I left. About 3 hours later she finds me in another part of the casino and tells me that I "cost her $3k by getting up" - I said, how long did it take you to lose that? she said "just that one shoe" - so I asked if she played my spot ( knowing full well she would never do that) and she said "no" - I told her that she should have, considering she thought the order of the cards was so sacred - she shook her head - I then asked her why she stayed if she went on such a losing streak - to which she replied "well, what else was I going to do?" - I said "get up" and walked away

Now, my choices to play on Friday and Saturday afternoons from 12noon til 8pm were as listed above. I chose to walk around complaining, bullish**ting with people, walking on the boardwalk and generally having a relaxing afternoon, waiting to play until the evening...


Has anyone had any sort of typical experience?
What was the scenario? How did you handle it?
Ibeatyouraces
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August 13th, 2013 at 3:19:38 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Canyonero
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August 13th, 2013 at 3:26:11 PM permalink
Option 6: Lighten Up.
Option 7: Wait for the shift of the floorlady to end and get laid.
Option 8: Mess with the losing lady: "I got up because the count was so terrible it was inevitable to lose thousands of dollars on the remainder of that shoe, thanks for proving me right. Better you than me, right? <offer her high five>
cclub79
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August 13th, 2013 at 3:42:03 PM permalink
I go to the casino to enjoy myself. If you don't think you'll be able to do that at either of those tables (well within your right), leave. That's why there are a dozen other places to go in AC. Too many tables in that town to sit at one where you'll be uncomfortable. I'd rather play .5% HE and be having fun than .4% HE and being uncomfortable.
DealerSix
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August 13th, 2013 at 3:43:01 PM permalink
Play with the annoying dealer and the old friend while wearing headphones, hah!
FleaStiff
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August 13th, 2013 at 3:55:18 PM permalink
Go elsewhere, win enough to buy the casino and then fire anyone you want to and run the place you the way you want to.
EvenBob
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August 13th, 2013 at 3:56:24 PM permalink
Wait a minute, Ace. You believe in coolers? How many college
degrees do you have? 3? You can't be serious.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
aceofspades
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August 13th, 2013 at 3:59:12 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Wait a minute, Ace. You believe in coolers? How many college
degrees do you have? 3? You can't be serious.




I don't believe in them - I believe in treating people with respect and that floorperson has demonstrated time and again a lack of respect - therefore, I refuse to play when she is there (and considering the feelign is mutual, I would not want my 'play rate and time' messed with on the player's card

(that is merely my nickname for her)
BedWetterBetter
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August 13th, 2013 at 4:02:09 PM permalink
Yea, Ace. Lantic Shittay is FULL of these "Bad Pennies" that keep showing up to remind you why you look elsewhere for your gaming needs!

Don't know what to say about a lady who is blaming you for something you had no effect on, but I can tell you about the mooch that I ran off last year and haven't seen since:

He's an Old, short, bald guy with a mustache(sounds like I'm doing a criminal profile to a sketch artist...lol!) used to hang out a couple of spots on the Taj side of town.

He pretty much has the same schtick every time he finds a mark. He sits down at the table with a few red chips in his hand and pretends he's going to wait for the next shoe. As you're playing, he starts his pitch of "getting to know you" by saying "You look familiar, where you from?" I bluntly reply "New York." He goes, "I from Iran, but lose all my money today"

Then, if you start winning he starts giving you fist pounds to "congratulate" you. If you're losing, he starts telling you that "you shoulda stayed" after you bust on a 14 ,15 , 16 and the dealer turns up a low card in a the hole after the fact.

If you happen to win a string of consecutive hands, like 3 or 4 in a row. He asks "How much you up?" and then if he can bet his leftover chips on top of yours, if you lose he walks away. But if you win he then jumps in to an open spot with his little money won and tries to "catch fire". Only to lose it and give you the "Can you loan me $XX bucks" line.

I said "Nah man, you came in and cost me money. You're clearly bad luck and I might as well throw the money in the garbage instead of giving it to YOU!"

Point being, if people try and "work" you because they can't keep their own money at the table. Then you have every right to humiliate them without getting physical.
DJTeddyBear
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August 13th, 2013 at 4:42:29 PM permalink
Read the story in the first post I this thread:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/9169-do-card-counters-have-a-sense-of-humor/
Then you'll know what to do...
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rdw4potus
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August 13th, 2013 at 4:48:03 PM permalink
Gosh, if only Atlantic City was a place with many other high-quality casinos to choose from. Then this falsely constructed dilemma could be completely avoided. Hey, wait a minute!!
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
aceofspades
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August 13th, 2013 at 4:49:50 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Gosh, if only Atlantic City was a place with many other high-quality casinos to choose from. Then this falsely constructed dilemma could be completely avoided. Hey, wait a minute!!




OUCH!!! Should I take the personally?
rdw4potus
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August 13th, 2013 at 5:11:39 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

OUCH!!! Should I take the personally?



Of course not! If I ever meant to actually insult you (or anyone) I wouldn't be so obtuse about it:-)

But, it is curious that playing at another casino (at least until evening) wasn't an option on the poll. Do you dislike the other properties so much that you won't even sit in their high limit rooms to avoid your nemesis (nemesises? nemesi?)?
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beachbumbabs
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August 13th, 2013 at 5:23:29 PM permalink
Might not be correct, but I would think "nemeses" would be an acceptable plural of "nemesis". Like "theses" is for "thesis"? Interesting thread. Funny story. Better than drooling on the felt, I think.
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August 13th, 2013 at 5:24:48 PM permalink
I say stay. "Poke the ploppy" is fun.
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beachbumbabs
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August 13th, 2013 at 5:29:38 PM permalink
I say play in the mush pit. You're profit, she's overhead; give her "the talk". Her every move is recorded; her every word overheard. If she's obnoxious to a good customer, which I agree she is based on what you've said, help her find the door if needed. But under no circumstances should she get to spoil your fun, since that seems (again based on your perception) to be her game. I would aim to be above it, not react unless it's a physical invasion (which you can prove and complain about, right?) and play your game. Bullies get bored without a reaction and move on to new targets.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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August 14th, 2013 at 8:51:17 AM permalink
Ace, Ace, Ace, this sounds more like a brother and sister teasing each other and I'm sending you both to your rooms.... or maybe the same room. :-)

What was her response when you told her not to address you? She certainly didn't take you seriously if she flicked your ear two weeks later. How did her reprimand come about and how did you know about it? Was it something that you initiated? If she touches you again and it really bothers you, you can always file assault charges. :-(
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aceofspades
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August 14th, 2013 at 8:54:06 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Ace, Ace, Ace, this sounds more like a brother and sister teasing each other and I'm sending you both to your rooms.... or maybe the same room. :-)

What was her response when you told her not to address you? She certainly didn't take you seriously if she flicked your ear two weeks later. How did her reprimand come about and how did you know about it? Was it something that you initiated? If she touches you again and it really bothers you, you can always file assault charges. :-(




I know because I informed my host that I would not be playing there the rest of that weekend of the ear flicking incident and my host apparently informed her boss who apparntly informed HR
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