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July 19th, 2013 at 1:09:06 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

He's trying to protect his BFF. I little commendable and a little sad at the same time.


I am beginning to believe the things that Ahigh posted about you.


Quote: Zcore13

If Ahigh didn't want the attention it would be very easy for him to not get it.


I doubt it. Even if he closed down his own website, the middle-school girls in this thread would continue making-up scenarios and stories about Ahigh.
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July 19th, 2013 at 1:10:20 PM permalink
Oh yeah, and Harley says he colored up $10,000. Notice he said "colored up" and not "won"? lol
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July 19th, 2013 at 1:10:30 PM permalink
Quote: tupp


Oh, I don't know... maybe it's due to having a sense of fairness and decency.



Whats unfair about discussing this? He puts it out there
for discussion, and we discuss it. I don't get where you're
coming from. You make no sense.
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July 19th, 2013 at 1:12:08 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

... a lot of the riff-raff casinos like Silverton and Gold Coast and Rancho...


You're joking, right?
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July 19th, 2013 at 1:19:04 PM permalink
Quote: tupp

You're joking, right?



Yeah, I'm joking. Rancho is a palace, you should hang
out there. Gold Coast is swell, why don't you live there.
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July 19th, 2013 at 1:22:05 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Yeah, I'm joking. Rancho is a palace, you should hang
out there. Gold Coast is swell, why don't you live there.



Rancho is a palace compared to just about anywhere downtown. Where to you like to play in Vegas, Bob?
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July 19th, 2013 at 1:23:13 PM permalink
There is nothing being made up. We are all just following the same story...

Dude was able to play at all casinos for years
Dude was on this site and had no real issues
Dude says he has tons of money and pays mortgage in advance with all his winnings

Dude now is not allowed to play at multiple casinos
Dude is not allowed to post here now
Dude bought a car and now has to be very careful with his money

Dude doesn't care if casinos kick him out for criticizing there equipment, staff and tables

Dude works for a company that supplies these same casinos with product

Substitute any name for Dude and you've got an interesting story. Substitute Ahigh who loves attention and "smack talk" as he calls it and you've got a daily topic to discuss.

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July 19th, 2013 at 1:24:42 PM permalink
Quote: tupp

You're joking, right?



Here's a review of a satisfied customer at the Silverton:

"If you are looking for cheap digs, off the strip where tobacco smoke is rampant and rednecks with a penchant for cheap lite beer and purchasing teeth on the installment plan then this is YOUR place to stay in Vegas.
The casino smells like a bad bathroom with overtones of air deodorizer. The cheap rooms are down at heel, with little or no amenities. When was the last time you had a "tube" style TV in your room? REALLY?
I don't believe the filters have been changed since Carter was in office. This place sucked!!!! My lungs are shot from the bad air in this dive."

That was 2 months ago, I'm sure its better now.
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July 19th, 2013 at 1:26:18 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Where to you like to play in Vegas, Bob?



Didn't you read my trip report from May? I've
stayed Downtown and played Downtown for
the last 15 years. I only go to the Strip when
the action Downtown is totally dead.

Whats wrong with Golden Gate, Binions, Nugget,
Plaza, D, even the Fremont isn't that bad. I
judge a casino by who plays there, and the Rancho
sucks.
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July 19th, 2013 at 3:51:13 PM permalink
I think you would be surprised how many real AP's (not that Ahigh is) don't separate their money if they do this for a living all their money is their bankroll. Most true advantage players know dam well what is over their heads to play and avoid putting themselves in a situation that may make them bankrupted themselves. If a AP runs bad for a while he would just play smaller stuff until he grinds back. If the play is over their heads they will normally sell off a piece of themselves to a bigger banked AP just like poker players sell off pieces of themselves. I know countess guys that were broke and used credit cards to fund there VP play and bills in the 90's. Of course there are the degenerates who use the rent money for 1 last shoot.
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EvenBob
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July 19th, 2013 at 4:01:31 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I think you would be surprised how many real AP's (not that Ahigh is) don't separate their money if they do this for a living all their money is their bankroll. .



They're idiots, then. You can't psychologically play
well with the mortgage and car payment money.
Thats insanity and you deserve what you get.

The real pro's I know always have a separate
account for the BR. Its the only way you can
live a normal life. Its like Frank Scoblete posted,
a real AP never thinks about the money he bets
because he doesn't live off that money.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
MrV
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July 19th, 2013 at 4:09:54 PM permalink
Oh, I have to think that a pro "thinks" about the money; the pro doesn't "worry" about the money.

Never play with "scared money."
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EvenBob
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July 19th, 2013 at 4:18:24 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Oh, I have to think that a pro "thinks" about the money; the pro doesn't "worry" about the money.



He thinks about it, but isn't preoccupied with it. 'If I lose
this one I can't pay the rent' type of issue. Businessmen
do the same thing. You have a home account and a
business account, they never mix. If they eventually do
it usually means you're in deep trouble.
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July 19th, 2013 at 4:54:04 PM permalink
Final stage is when employer collects payroll tax but doesn't send it in due to cash flow problems.....ouch.
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July 19th, 2013 at 6:33:44 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Ahigh says he has a 'very small bankroll'. Actually,
he has no BR at all.



I don't know his personal situation and I'm not exactly sure that anyone will really reveal what their personal financial situation is on any gambling website.

In my case I have NO bankroll. Anything I take to a casino is that week's "entertainment money," and it will vary week to week. If I win, great. If I lose it -- it was entertainment.

I leave "bankrolls" to those of you who are either pros, semi pros, or think you are going to beat the casinos.
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July 19th, 2013 at 6:36:05 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson



I leave "bankrolls" to those of you who are either pros, semi pros, or think you are going to beat the casinos.



You don't need a BR, you're a casual gambler. Just
saying you have a BR means you're serious about
playing and winning, and there are rules to follow
about money management.
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July 19th, 2013 at 6:46:43 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You don't need a BR, you're a casual gambler. Just
saying you have a BR means you're serious about
playing and winning, and there are rules to follow
about money management.



I use money management as a casual gambler. I have win goals and loss limits, and I have a flexible win goal when I am winning and keep winning.

I think those who say they have a "bankroll" are committed to playing. I am not committed to going to a casino.

Anyway, my point is I wouldnt criticize Ahigh for changing the amount he plays or if he has a bankroll or not. If it's just entertainment money that he is using, then he is OK in my book.
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July 19th, 2013 at 7:18:26 PM permalink
Quote: tupp

Ahigh's "hubris" is at the root of it all.

It's been that down through the millennia of history. Check any of the Greek and Roman classics.
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July 19th, 2013 at 7:27:37 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Anyway, my point is I wouldnt criticize Ahigh for changing the amount he plays or if he has a bankroll or not. If it's just entertainment money that he is using, then he is OK in my book.


That's what I think, too. His "bankroll" seems to be his entertainment money, which is cool (not that it matters what any of us think). Plus, as a software engineer with 20+ years of experience, I'm sure he's doing fine financially.
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July 19th, 2013 at 7:29:45 PM permalink
Hubris is a great word:

exaggerated pride or self-confidence; arrogance, haughtiness, insolence
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July 21st, 2013 at 10:57:37 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

They're idiots, then. You can't psychologically play
well with the mortgage and car payment money.
Thats insanity and you deserve what you get.

The real pro's I know always have a separate
account for the BR. Its the only way you can
live a normal life. Its like Frank Scoblete posted,
a real AP never thinks about the money he bets
because he doesn't live off that money.

I was under the impression that Frank makes his money selling books or teaching classes or something to that nature. IMO That would be like taking boxing lessons from Richard Simmons. Or better yet him taking writing lessons from me.

I'm sure A lot of guys do separate their BR That's probably guys that started with a big chunk of money. However, lest say a guy starts off small. Say hes working a regular job and uses some of his income to play and eventually starts playing full time meanwhile he is building up his BR. I would tend to think that that person dose not now split his money off. Lets say Joe is a full time AP and he makes his living doing so. Joe has a 40k BR and a 40k savings account. He decides to take a shot at the Revel Promotion with his 40k and he loses the 40k but for some reason he was on the sell out list and they no pay him his losses back. now what? he just quits gambling for a living? No he gets his other 40k and starts grinding back. Most AP's don't need to separate because they are discipline enough not to play too much over their heads that's why they are AP's still. The guys that don't have any discipline don't tent to make it as AP's because they go broke. I'm not talking about guys who read a book or two on how to count cards or how to play full pay deuces wild at the palms, then they run to Vegas with x amount of money and take a shot.
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July 22nd, 2013 at 3:36:59 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Hubris is a great word: exaggerated pride or self-confidence; arrogance, haughtiness, insolence


"Irony" is a great word, too.
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July 26th, 2013 at 5:04:17 PM permalink
Ahigh states he's won 37 of the last 42 sessions he's played.
He says he's using his edge to his advantage.

And some of you doubted him..
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July 31st, 2013 at 3:13:29 AM permalink
EvenBob = Member100?

That's what Ahigh claimed. lol
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August 5th, 2013 at 6:23:20 AM permalink
Ahigh thinks he can win the challenge.

...but he says he only wants to bet $1 because he doesn't want to take anyone's money. lol
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August 5th, 2013 at 12:27:58 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th



...but he says he only wants to bet $1 because he doesn't want to take anyone's money. lol



I just read on his site he lost all the money
he won in July that he was bragging about.
One session on Sat night wiped out the wins
plus a lot more.
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August 9th, 2013 at 7:13:30 AM permalink
I see that he still considers others to be "random rollers," while he claims his own player edge per roll is betweem 4% to 8%.

It sounds like he claims to have a 4% to 8% advantage against the casino when he himself rolls dem bones, which would be huge.

And yet he is content to bet very small amounts?

Curious.
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August 9th, 2013 at 7:38:07 AM permalink
I don't know AHigh so I have no idea how he actually rolls the dice in the casinos. But betting small is not unique to him.

I do know advantage dice controllers and blackjack players who just can't get the money out there. If they have $100 losing a $10 bet does not bother them. If they have 10K, a $1,000 bet does bother them. The percentages are the same but these players give an absolute value to the money, not a relative value. A thousand dollars is 10 percent of 10K but it is still a thousand dollars, while a $10 loss doesn't get the negative juices flowing.

I know one excellent card counter who can bet $75 but he does it with red chips! If he sees green it shakes him. Go figure.

In advantage play, if you worry about how much you are betting then it will tend to distract you from what you are doing. You might freeze. You have to bet small enough that the amount of money wagered doesn't start rattling around in your head.
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August 9th, 2013 at 9:07:15 AM permalink
He has the money, he just doesn't seem to grasp reality. I don't know the numbers on it, someone here can possibly figure it out, but if he's willing to risk $1,000 to win $50 (or less sometimes) I'm pretty sure he's going to win a huge majority of the time. His 20+ sessions of wins in a row, all less than $50 or $60 was balanced out by a $1,267 loss. To me his 20+ win streak is just normal play and has nothing to do with dice control. Win $50 20 times in a row and then lose $1,267...

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August 9th, 2013 at 9:34:41 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

I don't know the numbers on it, someone here can possibly figure it out, but if he's willing to risk $1,000 to win $50 (or less sometimes) I'm pretty sure he's going to win a huge majority of the time.
His 20+ sessions of wins in a row, all less than $50 or $60 was balanced out by a $1,267 loss.
To me his 20+ win streak is just normal play and has nothing to do with dice control.
Win $50 20 times in a row and then lose $1,267...
ZCore13

going back to math class to Gambler's Ruin 101 in a fair game
1000/1050 would be the probability you seek. (95.238095%)
It would be slightly below that because of the house edge
but you get a max probability.

Ahigh says he plays with an advantage sometimes.
But he also says he really only plays for fun.

so 20 wins in a row (for fun)
(1000/1050)^20 = 0.376889
not a problem at all
and would be fun until that one loss
(IMO, all craps players hate to lose even one bet, takes the fun out of playing the game)
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August 9th, 2013 at 9:55:36 AM permalink
That makes sense.
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August 9th, 2013 at 10:01:50 AM permalink
The win with small grinds is a frequent 'trap' to entice people into a system. Singer espoused it. Patrick blabs about it all the time. I've had that way of thinking until examination of the facts... you don't break the downward slope.

It doesn't make you 'win' any more. However, it does make you feel better 9 times out 10 when you walk away with a small win. The flip side is the pain of losing your buy in after a series of small wins is quite painful. But losing your buy in is painful anwyays.
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August 9th, 2013 at 12:34:20 PM permalink
Quote: 7craps



Ahigh says he plays with an advantage sometimes.
But he also says he really only plays for fun.



Thats because he doesn't know what he's doing.
He has so many small wins because he has no
trouble walking when he's $12 ahead. When
he plays for stakes in the hundreds, he gets very
nervous and freezes up mentally. He starts chasing
and loses big. He knows he'll never make any big
bucks nickle and dining, but neither can he play
for real money. Rock, meet the hard place..
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August 9th, 2013 at 12:51:27 PM permalink
Quote: 7craps

Ahigh says he plays with an advantage sometimes.



How to reconcile that qualifier ("sometimes"} with his bold declaration that he has a 4% to 8% edge against the casino?
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EvenBob
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August 9th, 2013 at 1:00:21 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

How to reconcile that qualifier ("sometimes"} with his bold declaration that he has a 4% to 8% edge against the casino?



Its a 'moving edge'. Its there when he's winning
and not there when he's losing. Its like seeing a
ghost. You can glimpse it in your peripheral vision,
but when you look right at it its gone.
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August 9th, 2013 at 1:32:59 PM permalink
I love how Ahigh complains about being banned here, yet he constantly threatens to delete members who "annoy" him over on his forum.
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August 9th, 2013 at 1:49:45 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

I love how Ahigh complains about being banned here, yet he constantly threatens to delete members who "annoy" him over on his forum.



Yup, he says you either agree with him or you
get banned and all your posts are removed. Its
called a dictatorship. Remember how in every
post here he said somebody was wrong? He
really see's the world that way. He's right 100%
of the time.
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August 9th, 2013 at 1:51:24 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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August 9th, 2013 at 3:39:07 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Remember how in every post here he said somebody was wrong? He really see's the world that way. He's right 100% of the time.


Was that the thread in which he insisted to everyone that he could tell the difference between dice results and a computer random number generator?

Thanks for the reminder! That sure was funny!
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August 9th, 2013 at 4:44:59 PM permalink
Attention Ahigh. Go to Richard Munchkins page and
listen to last nights radio podcast. Your twin was on there,
if in spirit only.

He's a pro gambler who put a craps table in his house 8 years
ago and got good at DI. He Said they noticed the dice on the
inside of a set, the faces facing towards each other, came up
far less often than they should if your throw hits 1-3" from the
wall. So he mastered this throw and actually made money.

But. Its a very hard throw to do, it makes you look like a robot
when you do it. There are only 20% of tables in Vegas where
the throw works. You have to use the right size dice, the bigger
the better. You have to play on mostly empty tables so you
can shoot a lot. But the worst part is the heat you get. He was
doing this when DI was just becoming a rage and casinos thought
it was a joke. The heat became so bad and he started getting banned
so often that, all things considered it just wasn't worth it.

Too many if's, he said. It works if you have the throw, if the table
is just right, if you can throw a lot, if the dice are the right size, and
if the casino lets you get away it. Way too many if's.
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August 10th, 2013 at 1:42:26 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

He really see's the world that way. He's right 100%
of the time.


Ahigh felt that a dealer was "rude" to him the other night. It amazes me how one guy can have so many problems with so many dealers at so many different casinos, yet he thinks everybody else has the problem. He finds trouble even at places where he's a regular! lol
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August 10th, 2013 at 1:49:38 PM permalink
I've been gambling for 27 years and have never had words with a dealer or Supervisor. Wonder what the difference could be?

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August 10th, 2013 at 1:58:22 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

I've been gambling for 27 years and have never had words with a dealer or Supervisor. Wonder what the difference could be?



Class.
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August 10th, 2013 at 1:58:53 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Ahigh felt that a dealer was "rude" to him the other night. l



I thought it was funny. Ahigh was throwing and betting
his usual $1.27 and some guy was betting real money
and won real money from Ahighs throws. When the guy
left, the pit said to Ahigh 'thats how its done', meaning
if you bet $1.27 thats what you'll win. $1.27. LOL
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MrV
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August 11th, 2013 at 11:50:58 PM permalink
Whoa!
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August 12th, 2013 at 12:22:44 AM permalink
LOL if this is true its kinda funny I am never surprised at strange thing's such as this. Ahigh is to willing to meet up with random guys at casinos, that can never be good. I seem to remember Ahigh calling someone out for hitting on him.

why not just post the pic? Certainty it is not a blackmail attempt. So what if it were to be deleted people would have verified and saved it. Seems like a publicity stunt.
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August 12th, 2013 at 12:42:34 AM permalink
Its got be a casino employee he pissed off by insulting him.
He goes on about Ahighs attitude when he plays, like that's
what's really bothering him. So he's going to smear his
reputation. Gotta watch who you piss off in this life.
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August 12th, 2013 at 12:52:43 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Its got be a casino employee he pissed off by insulting him.
He goes on about Ahighs attitude when he plays, like that's
what's really bothering him. So he's going to smear his
reputation. Gotta watch who you piss off in this life.

OK but do you believe the gay remarks are true? it sound like a 6th grader spreading lies. If that's totally made up it's totally childish and counterproductive to a smear champagne. For instance that's the fist time i have read a post on Ahigh's site.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Beethoven9th
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August 12th, 2013 at 2:27:14 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Its got be a casino employee he pissed off by insulting him.
He goes on about Ahighs attitude when he plays, like that's
what's really bothering him.

That's exactly what I had thought. I bet it's someone from the Silverton.


Quote: AxelWolf

OK but do you believe the gay remarks are true? it sound like a 6th grader spreading lies.

I'm skeptical too because (just you had pointed out) why not just post the damn picture? Answer: Because it might not exist.

Also, the guy talks about Ahigh always playing late night/early morning, but I believe that Ahigh has only been doing so recently. He usually plays during the day (I think).


Quote: AxelWolf

If that's totally made up it's totally childish and counterproductive to a smear champagne.

Champagne??? LOL!

Were you using Google's voice typing or something? It always does similar stuff to me.
Fighting BS one post at a time!
chickenman
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August 12th, 2013 at 3:40:27 AM permalink
Gotta call bullshit on this-- pic or it never happened to paraphrase WongBo. Speaking of whom--last visit May 28th, guess he lost interest here
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