REVEL boycott!!!
Quote: s2dbakerI shall not visit Revel again.
They don't want you either. If they really wanted you, they will throw freebie bones at you. Most gamblers, when they seen bones wag their tails.
Well, in 10 seconds you mean the dealer should put her job on the line , just to kiss Ace's ass.
Quote: Buzzard
Well, in 10 seconds you mean the dealer should put her job on the line , just to kiss Ace's ass.
Geez Buzz, what's your problem. You've expressed your
opinion of this about 40 times already, what's the point
of doing it over and over and over? You don't know she
would have lost her job, you have no way of knowing.
Face says probably not and he works in a casino.
Quote: aceofspadesNot a question of dignity my friend - a question of being treated with dignity.
I probably could've argued either side until I saw this post. If I'm playing in that lounge with that kind of action I would think the house should automatically assume they make more in the long run by trying to accomodate the player. Their's is a business with customer loyalty a must. What do they really lose in a quiet room by telling Ace..."normally this isn't our policy, but I've been told to give you the push. Let's shuffle up and deal."
Quote: BuzzardYeah and risk being shut down by gaming for a few days. Hell, why not let him win on any push.
LOL x3... Get serious, please.
Quote: BuzzardWell, Bob. Then you agree and think she should have just said " OOOPs I made a mistake. Keep your hundred dollars Sir.
As much as Ace drops in that casino, he should have
done what he did. Casinos are predatory, they never
deserve an even break. They would bankrupt Ace in
a heartbreak if they could and smirk all the way to the bank.
Benny Binion said "Our job isn't done till the players
last check to us bounces." In other words, a casino
wants all your money. What makes you think things
have changed? If anything its worse, they're far more
predatory than in Benny's day..
You mean they did not agree with you, thereby impugning your dignity.
Just to compare, I wonder how many people were playing in the high limit room at Borgata or Caesars at the same time???
I look forward to playing beside you at Ballys in the coming weeks. Or better yet, walking over to Caesars.
Quote: BozI missed most of this, but the way it was handled originally was exactly why Revel is in this situation. Kevin still wants to prove to everyone his way is correct while the ship continues to sink.
Just to compare, I wonder how many people were playing in the high limit room at Borgata or Caesars at the same time???
I look forward to playing beside you at Ballys in the coming weeks. Or better yet, walking over to Caesars.
LEt's do it!
Quote: boymimboWith single and double deck, you double 11 on an A.
This is true, and also any H17 game. But I thought it was S17 6 deck as I thought that was the norm in high-limit rooms in AC. aceofspades didn't actually say, but someone else said it was double deck. Not the most important thing in this discussion, of course. I've never been to the UltraLounge at Revel, so it may be all X deck or whatever.
Quote: AcesAndEightsThis is true, but I thought it was 6 deck. aceofspades didn't actually say, but someone else said it was double deck. Not the most important thing in this discussion, of course. I've never been to the UltraLounge at Revel, so it may be all X deck or whatever.
It is 6deck.
at you and act like nothing happened. Makes me want to puke !
Quote: IbeatyouracesThe pit DID handle it correctly, and I'm stating this as a full time AP'er. You did not no matter what stakes you're playing at.
HE stated that should have handled it BETTER.
Quote: BuzzardAce, do you me a favor. Never play with that same female dealer, if she still has her job. Just have this vision of her having to smile
at you and act like nothing happened. Makes me want to puke !
Buzz - do you secretly work for Revel? You seem extremely interested in this thread and the goings on.
Ace certainly wasn't being unreasonable in asking for the hand to be declared a misdeal. It's not like he was asking to have his hand declared a winner. He was just asking for the hand to be declared dead due to the dealer error. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask for that.
If I were in casino management there, I would have put a stop to this much before they did. One bet is but a drop in the bucket from any player. Even if a guy is playing nickels, give him his $5 back and take a couple hundred off him over the next little while. It's just bad customer service to provide a service and leave the recipient with a bad taste in his mouth, especially when it costs so little to fix it.
Did the Revel owe Ace $100? Absolutely not! Should they have given it to him anyway? Yeah, this time I'd say so. If a player builds up a history of these situations where they are getting refunds on lost bets just because they happened in an unorthodox way, I think management would be right to conclude that it would be better for all parties involved for this guy to take his business elsewhere. It sounds to me like they should want Ace's business though.
The 30 minute delay was inexcusable, on that we can agree.
In prior posts you have seemed to be a stand-up guy. But your callous attitude toward the female dealer is beneath you. More appropriate for somebody who was born on 3rd base and thinks he has hit a triple. Rather than someone who has battled to the top
of his profession.
This will be my last post on this thread.
Quote: BuzzardAce I have posted on your previous threads and actually am still a fan of yours. But I feel you are in the wrong in stating that this should have been resolved in 10 seconds. That would have meant the dealer putting her job on the line. Your remark she "probably" would not have been fired shows a lack of respect for a woman doing her best to provide a living for her and her family.
The 30 minute delay was inexcusable, on that we can agree.
In prior posts you have seemed to be a stand-up guy. But your callous attitude toward the female dealer is beneath you. More appropriate for somebody who was born on 3rd base and thinks he has hit a triple. Rather than someone who has battled to the top
of his profession.
This will be my last post on this thread.
Buzz - you seem to have this idea that I berated the dealer or said anything untoward her. Once it happened, I asked for the pit boos, once he decided the hand would stand, and I asked for the shift manager, both the dealer and pit boss began pleading their case to me, on their own initiative, I was sitting there texting on my phone, trying to NOT engage them.
Quote: rdw4potusWow, I can't believe this thread is already 13 pages long. I just read it all, and I'm confused. Isn't this a situation that we've all seen dozens of times? The light fails, or the dealer doesn't see the black mark in the mirror, or the dealer is distracted and forgets to check for an ace-in-the-hole. Whatever the cause, by far the most common outcome is a dead hand. I can only think of one or two times when I've seen this happen and the hand wasn't ruled dead. That said, it's not exactly surprising that Revel would take the less common and less customer-friendly approach. They're failing for a reason, after all...
If that's the case why wasn't the other player's bet returned? Because a blackjack beats a non blackjack. Yes, she broke but why should that matter and where are her freebees?
Quote: BuzzardYour remark she "probably" would not have been fired shows a lack of respect for a woman doing her best to provide a living for her and her family.
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Yes Ace, shame on you for not thinking of the dealers
family. Its our job in the casino not only to look out
for ourselves, but the dealers families as well. Always
put them first and save your callous attitude for kicking
a stray dog and laughing at a homeless person. Remember,
if we don't look out for the dealers families, who will.
What a crock...
