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EvenBob
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October 26th, 2012 at 1:12:32 PM permalink
Is this going to effect AC casinos? If there's a big
surge, they could be flooded. Ace, you have to go
this weekend.

Anybody in the path? This could even effect the
elections, keep all those wascally Dem's from the
polls if their power is still out.
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October 26th, 2012 at 1:21:47 PM permalink
DC-centric

I have absolutely no experience with this kind of a situation, I'm missing the mild Seattle weather right about now. It looks like southern NJ won't be able to escape it.

"Ten foot storm tides" on the coast of Maryland/Delaware if it hits south.

Edit: A good thing about this article is it actually gives approximate days/times.
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October 26th, 2012 at 1:59:18 PM permalink
If AC closed for 3 days during Irene, they have
to close for Sandy.
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October 26th, 2012 at 2:38:22 PM permalink


Biden cancelled here tomorrow. I'm crushed.
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October 26th, 2012 at 2:42:22 PM permalink
I bought 3 half gallons of vodka last night.
You think I'm joking?
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October 26th, 2012 at 2:46:22 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I bought 3 half gallons of vodka last night.
You think I'm joking?



I don't need to go to the liquor store, unless I want vodka. I've got half gallons of scotch, whiskey, and Bailey's, plus a bunch of 750 ml rums and schnapps and other after dinner drinks. Everything ends up here after Thanksgiving and my husband only drinks wine and beer. I'm not a big drinker but I could put a hurtin' on my liver if I set my mind to it.
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October 26th, 2012 at 2:55:38 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I bought 3 half gallons of vodka last night.
You think I'm joking?



The effect on Michigan is expected to be very minor. You're either joking or preparing for 11/6-11/7:-)
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October 26th, 2012 at 2:57:53 PM permalink
Savings when you buy in bulk, surely!
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October 26th, 2012 at 2:58:45 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

The effect on Michigan is expected to be very minor. )



And your point is?
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October 26th, 2012 at 3:10:06 PM permalink
I would fill the gas tank, buy water, bread, peanut butter, and sharpen the chain saw. No wait... that for New England.

Check your insurance, if you're covered, put your valuables in the basement.
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October 26th, 2012 at 4:43:53 PM permalink
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October 26th, 2012 at 4:47:45 PM permalink
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EB got all of that vodka because the temperature in MI went from the 80s a few days ago to the 40s today. Need something to keep your insides warm.



Since when do you need an excuse to stock up
on vodka? East coast hurricane, earthquake in
China, its all the same to me.
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October 26th, 2012 at 4:52:36 PM permalink
It's only stocking up if you maintain the inventory:-)
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October 26th, 2012 at 4:57:05 PM permalink
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October 26th, 2012 at 4:59:29 PM permalink
Curious minds want to know "What Brand" of Vodka is preferred?
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October 26th, 2012 at 4:59:38 PM permalink
Liquor is just SO last millenium.

Hello, medical marijuana!
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October 26th, 2012 at 5:10:49 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Liquor is just SO last millenium.

Hello, medical marijuana!



Or just regular marijuana in CO soon enough.
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October 26th, 2012 at 5:53:54 PM permalink
One model forecasts Sandy going to Ohio, another forecasts it going to Buffalo, NY, several show it heading to Delaware.
BAMM and UKMET show it heading straight up Long Island Sound. Bad news for NYC.

All those people heading out to get batteries or ice or fresh milk are probably going to buy booze and cigarettes.

Remember... water damage is usually covered but not flood damage... so make sure of your coverage. Wind damage that breaks a window and admits rain is better than "flood damage" which may not be covered.
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October 26th, 2012 at 6:02:16 PM permalink
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One model forecasts Sandy going to Ohio, another forecasts it going to Buffalo, NY, several show it heading to Delaware. .


Is that the Fox survey, New York Times or Rasmusen forecasts?
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October 26th, 2012 at 6:07:42 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Is that the Fox survey, New York Times or Rasmusen forecasts?



They all polled 1100 likely supply hoarders. Results are +- 4%, with a 95% CI.
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October 26th, 2012 at 6:13:10 PM permalink
2100Zulu NHC still shows Delaware but 1800Zulu BAMM and 1800Zulu UKMET are more likely to be correct and they are still showing NYC will get the worst of it.
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October 26th, 2012 at 10:00:33 PM permalink
We're just north of the "these people are screwed" bubble. I sandbagged the garage doors because we get runoff flooding from houses and streets up mountain from us. We cut down a couple trees last summer so we probably won't have a problem there, and locally most of the leaves are down. Should have bought that generator a few years ago, though.

I'm hoping for a fizzle. No reason it can't just miss, either by passing east or by the two fronts sliding instead of colliding. We had the flooding last year, we need a break this year.
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October 26th, 2012 at 10:04:58 PM permalink
Mosca, I can overnight you a gallon of
vodka if you need it. Let me know..
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October 27th, 2012 at 3:33:58 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

I'm hoping for a fizzle.

You just may get it. BAMS is now showing it heading very must east before turning NW to reach Canada. Most other models show a distinct swing to the east prior to a NW turn also. Strength was weakening as high altitude winds were strongest NW of the eye.
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October 27th, 2012 at 3:36:15 AM permalink
Just as long as it doesn't "fizzle" its way up to my neck of the woods...
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October 27th, 2012 at 5:20:21 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Mosca, I can overnight you a gallon of
vodka if you need it. Let me know..



Thanks, Bob; email it right over, or PM it if you don't think the email will be secure!
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October 27th, 2012 at 1:13:46 PM permalink
Three fifths and three packs of cigarettes. I'm ready.
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October 27th, 2012 at 1:19:43 PM permalink
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October 27th, 2012 at 7:16:23 PM permalink
I don't want to appear insensitive. Certainly hurricanes are major disasters, with a huge potential for property destruction and loss of life. But as in all things, there are degrees to consider. As far as I can make out, Sandy is a Category 1 storm and it doesn't seem to be expected to grow stronger. So as hurricanes go, this is a rather mild one.

So my question is: why are the TV news networks hyping it up so much?

On the other hand, I've never experienced a hurricane or even been particularly near one. Also, I do know areas that don't experience hurricanes on a regular basis are less prepared to deal with one.

Just wondering.
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October 27th, 2012 at 7:21:17 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I don't want to appear insensitive. Certainly hurricanes are major disasters, with a huge potential for property destruction and loss of life. But as in all things, there are degrees to consider. As far as I can make out, Sandy is a Category 1 storm and it doesn't seem to be expected to grow stronger. So as hurricanes go, this is a rather mild one.

So my question is: why are the TV news networks hyping it up so much?

On the other hand, I've never experienced a hurricane or even been particularly near one. Also, I do know areas that don't experience hurricanes on a regular basis are less prepared to deal with one.

Just wondering.



There seem to be three reasons:

1. The storm, while weak, is quite large.
2. It's expected to merge with another "normal" storm over the east coast.
3. (2.1?) The merger/collision has the potential to cause incredible rainfall and/or cause the storm to stop moving for several days.
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October 27th, 2012 at 7:31:06 PM permalink
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If AC closed for 3 days during Irene, they have
to close for Sandy.


If there is a lot of storm damage to places like Trump Plaza, I wonder if they will re-open. They may take their insurance money and decide that this offer is the best they are going to get.
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October 27th, 2012 at 7:32:25 PM permalink
4. Because of the Full Moon, tides will be abnormally high, further aggregating things.


FYI I got email from Caesars Entertainment saying their 4 casinos are closing at noon.
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October 27th, 2012 at 7:36:02 PM permalink
The only time I ever won a casino drawing, it was snowing so hard that I was stuck at the casino for 2 days. There are a couple good drawings in the next few days in the Philly area and I'm hoping for a repeat...
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October 27th, 2012 at 7:40:29 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

As far as I can make out, Sandy is a Category 1 storm and it doesn't seem to be expected to grow stronger. So as hurricanes go, this is a rather mild one. So my question is: why are the TV news networks hyping it up so much?



It is very unusual for a hurricane to make landfall this far north. The US population north of the state of North Carolina is much more dense. If you look at the map below you see that in the last 36 years, only Gloria (on it's second landfall) has come in to the north of the Carolinas.

The US Army Corps of Engineers has said that 1985's Hurricane Gloria could have been catastrophic to New York City if it arrived at high tide and just a little closer to the City.

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October 28th, 2012 at 9:58:22 AM permalink
I'm 10 miles south of DC and it's just a little cooler than usual, it was supposed to start raining last night but I've yet to see anything. I could have slept through it.

Then I look at the satellite/computer models/etc. and it really is the calm before the storm. The headline of Drudge has a few really good links.
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October 28th, 2012 at 11:48:02 AM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

The headline of Drudge has a few really good links.

According to the map they have there, it will make landfall EXACTLY at A.C.

[morbid humor]Please take out Trump Plaza.[/morbid humor]

Seriously, stay safe, folks.
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October 28th, 2012 at 11:53:22 AM permalink
My mom just called to tell me to board my windows. I live in a 3rd floor apartment 60 miles from open water, so that was pretty funny. I had to stop myself from telling her about my plan to intentionally go out to try to increase my odds in casino drawings.
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October 28th, 2012 at 12:02:20 PM permalink
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I had to stop myself from telling her about my plan to intentionally go out to try to increase my odds in casino drawings.

LOL!
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October 28th, 2012 at 1:25:18 PM permalink
During the 5+ years that I was based on the east coast and played mostly out of AC, I would always head that way during any kind of big storm. Snow storms were really the best, but snow storms and hurricanes both worked equally well. Tables were empty which always made for good table-hopping and heads up play opportunities.

But I have to say, even if the Casino's in AC were not going to be closing, I think I would stay away from this one. This isn't one I would want to fool around with.

Good luck to all of you anywhere along the east coast in or near the path. Be safe. BTW, sunny mid/upper 70's here in Vegas all this coming week. :) Go west young man (or woman). lol
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October 28th, 2012 at 1:29:34 PM permalink
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But I have to say, even if the Casino's in AC were not going to be closing, I think I would stay away from this one. This isn't one I would want to fool around with.



Why?

The casinos will ride out the storm just fine.

This isn't Katrina.
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October 28th, 2012 at 2:06:15 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Why?

The casinos will ride out the storm just fine.

This isn't Katrina.



No but they don't really know what it is. This isn't just a hurricane or big nor'easter coming up the coast. It is several storm system converging. The national news is showing almost a direct hit to AC. If not AC, then very close along the southern NJ coastline. It is then expected to head inland just a bit and stall there for a period of at least 24 hours massive amounts of rain along with high winds for an extended time. Maybe it's me. Maybe I am spoiled, now, but I just no longer feel the need to put myself at risk to get in some blackjack anymore.
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October 28th, 2012 at 3:05:02 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Why?

The casinos will ride out the storm just fine.

This isn't Katrina.

Just fine?

Is that why all the casinos are already closed, and there's an evacuation order for the entire NJ coastline?

Maybe this will convince you there's a real emergency: To assist the evacuation, they've cancelled the tolls on the Garden State Parkway and AC Expressway.
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October 28th, 2012 at 3:22:04 PM permalink
Federal workers have been given Monday off, everyone in the DC area.
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October 28th, 2012 at 3:28:19 PM permalink
This is not the apocalypse, just a storm.

The winds are not predicted to be high enough to do catastrophic damage.

The wild card is storm surge; at high tide it could be ... interesting.
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October 28th, 2012 at 4:28:08 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

This is not the apocalypse, just a storm.

The winds are not predicted to be high enough to do catastrophic damage.

The wild card is storm surge; at high tide it could be ... interesting.



The issue with storms this far north, is their area and the density of the population. Wind Speed cannot be very high. Hurricane Agnes in 1972 never got above 85 mph, and the effect was devastating. The potential for damage to New York City from the surge could surpass anything that has come before. The other thing to consider is the snow.

As of an hour ago, it is still converging right on AC for landfall.

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October 28th, 2012 at 4:35:58 PM permalink
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The issue with storms this far north, is their area and the density of the population. Wind Speed cannot be very high. Hurricane Agnes in 1972 never got above 85 mph, and the effect was devastating. The potential for damage to New York City from the surge could surpass anything that has come before. The other thing to consider is the snow.

As of an hour ago, it is still converging right on AC for landfall.



I checked for my forecast next Wednesday here in Buffalo. The forecast LOW temperature was listed at 52 degrees. Simultaneously they listed a blizzard warning. They obviously don't have a good handle on this thing.....
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October 28th, 2012 at 4:38:12 PM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

I'm 10 miles south of DC and it's just a little cooler than usual, it was supposed to start raining last night but I've yet to see anything. I could have slept through it.



The eye of the storm is still 500 miles from DC (moving at 15 mph). The storm is big, but it's not that big.

DC is only 145 air miles from Atlantic City. I think you will feel it in 24 hours.
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October 28th, 2012 at 5:00:33 PM permalink
I'm in MI, but 3 half gallons of Vodka isn't enough
for the pantry. Gotta add two more tomorrow. Better
safe than sorry.
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October 28th, 2012 at 5:12:02 PM permalink
The MTA is shut down. They are talking about closing the bridges and tunnels as well. Mayor Bloomberg thinks that all city agencies should be open tomorrow though. No one (especially those in Staten Island) will physically be able to get to work tomorrow. I don't think this has been thought out very well.
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