ThatDonGuy
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August 23rd, 2012 at 2:12:16 PM permalink
I thought I knew pretty much everything about casino gambling, until my recent trip to Vegas, when I tried placing a $30 bet with the green on top of the red, and was informed by one of the dealers that the smaller denominations always go on top. I never knew that, although it does make sense as the dealers are far less likely to treat it as a stack of two greens.

Does anybody else have any instances of similarly "gained wisdom"?
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August 23rd, 2012 at 2:55:25 PM permalink
I wish some slot-players would learn that when they win a big amount that they can press the spin/take credit button and not have to make everybody around them have to listen to that annoying music for 20 minutes while the machine counts up.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 3:13:46 PM permalink
Oh, come on, that's half the fun!
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August 23rd, 2012 at 3:19:41 PM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo

Oh, come on, that's half the fun!



Pissing other people off? Whatever.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 3:45:37 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Pissing other people off? Whatever.



So your saying the person who won the big amount should turn there celebration off because you and others like you don't like it? Casinos are big, maybe instead of thinking they should do something for you by forgoing there celebration noise you should do something for yourself and leave the vacinity until its over.
Mission146
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August 23rd, 2012 at 3:47:37 PM permalink
Quote: tsmith

I wish some slot-players would learn that when they win a big amount that they can press the spin/take credit button and not have to make everybody around them have to listen to that annoying music for 20 minutes while the machine counts up.



If it's more than 100 FOR 1 on my bet, I'm listening to the music. I might even shake a leg while I am at it.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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August 23rd, 2012 at 3:51:09 PM permalink
Oops. I let the win rack up since I figure that's the ONLY time I'm not spending money on those infernal machines--they're paying me for a change! However, I do lower the volume as far down as it will go since I don't like it too loud. Spinning slowly is one of my money-management techniques. My sister is a button-masher, and she loses too much too fast for my taste.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 4:09:30 PM permalink
I wish all slot machines had volume controls on them, but they don't.

Don't get me wrong, everybody deserves to hear the music because it's their money, but I wish the music would stop after a certain point. I'll liisten to the music for a few minutes myself when I get a big win, but I can handle it only for maybe 90 seconds and then I hit the button.

But the question was what new thing had you learned, and some people don't know that they don't have to sit and wait 3 minutes for a video slot machine to count up $20, that they can fast-forward it whenever they want.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 4:25:14 PM permalink
One of my casino pet peeves is the nearby nonagenarian slot player who lets their machine play out each and every 110dB ding for each and every penny of their prize. I'm real happy about your 85¢ win, can you just hit the GDMF button already.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 4:30:38 PM permalink
I learned that many casinos that offer Caveman Keno often have the sound turned up to 120 decibels...way too loud
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August 23rd, 2012 at 4:31:15 PM permalink
Quote: JB

One of my casino pet peeves is the nearby nonagenarian slot player who lets their machine play out each and every 110dB ding for each and every penny of their prize. .



Its an ego thing. Watch how they look all
around to see if people are noticing that
they won.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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August 23rd, 2012 at 4:33:13 PM permalink
I agree FFV anytime you can sit in front of a machine without pushing the button you are ahead of the game.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 4:37:33 PM permalink
Quote: tsmith

I wish all slot machines had volume controls on them, but they don't.

But the question was what new thing had you learned, and some people don't know that they don't have to sit and wait 3 minutes for a video slot machine to count up $20, that they can fast-forward it whenever they want.



I have talked to some people that are convinced that if they hit the button to take the win they can get shafted out of some or all of the win and not be able to prove that they had hit something.

Maybe if someone like that is reading the thread this conversation does fit the title.
Be careful when you follow the masses, the M is sometimes silent.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 4:50:15 PM permalink
Quote: tsmith

I wish some slot-players would learn that when they win a big amount that they can press the spin/take credit button and not have to make everybody around them have to listen to that annoying music for 20 minutes while the machine counts up.



I do that to be annoying! LOL ANd celebrate my penny slot wins. I am also only seen on the slots after I have consumed a what should be illegal amount of bud light, so it is funny to me to hit for 1000 pennies and have it count it up.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 4:53:07 PM permalink
Barton's in Jackpot, NV has a few Star Wars slots about 20' from their table games. They replay scenes occasionally at a stupidly high volume even when nobody's on them, so by the end of the night you want to go murder George Lucas.

Edit: If you didn't want to already because of episodes 1-3.
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
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August 23rd, 2012 at 4:59:55 PM permalink
Quote: JW17

I do that to be annoying! LOL



Well, it ain't LOL to the rest of us. Its annoying
as hell and sorry, it makes you look like a newbie
who doesn't know how to hit the button to make
it stop. Whenever somebody near me does this,
I invariably say to myself 'what a *bleep*..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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August 23rd, 2012 at 5:06:42 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Well, it ain't LOL to the rest of us. Its annoying
as hell and sorry, it makes you look like a newbie
who doesn't know how to hit the button to make
it stop. Whenever somebody near me does this,
I invariably say to myself 'what a *bleep*..



What?

When I said 100 FOR 1, I was talking a bet of at least $1.50. That's $150, gotta do my little dance, make a little love, OW, get down tonight.

I'm not doing it to attract attention, I'm doing it to celebrate. In fact, if there is someone in the same row, the row behind me, or basically, anywhere in my direct line of sight, I'll turn it off after five seconds or so. If I don't see anyone, I might let it play for a minute and focus on my coffee for a minute.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 5:11:01 PM permalink
Back when Missouri first got gambling boats I learned a couple of things that were specific to them, while on a trip to visit in-laws in Kansas City. I learned that you were not allowed to get chips from your spouse when you ran out; you had to buy more of your own and play with them only. I learned that if your husband had to go to the bathroom and asked you to play his blackjack hand while he was gone, like you did in every other casino you'd ever gone to, that the dealer would slap your hand and yell at you when you tried to place a bet with "his" chips.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 5:13:04 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

I thought I knew pretty much everything about casino gambling, until my recent trip to Vegas, when I tried placing a $30 bet with the green on top of the red, and was informed by one of the dealers that the smaller denominations always go on top.


One of the very basics. Multi-denominational Chip betting is like sex: the fatter one goes on the bottom.
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Mission146
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August 23rd, 2012 at 5:19:08 PM permalink
Quote: tsmith

Back when Missouri first got gambling boats I learned a couple of things that were specific to them, while on a trip to visit in-laws in Kansas City. I learned that you were not allowed to get chips from your spouse when you ran out; you had to buy more of your own and play with them only. I learned that if your husband had to go to the bathroom and asked you to play his blackjack hand while he was gone, like you did in every other casino you'd ever gone to, that the dealer would slap your hand and yell at you when you tried to place a bet with "his" chips.



The reason why was because Missouri had a $500 24-hour loss limit for a time. They had to prevent such things as getting chips from your spouse from happening in case you were trying to circumvent the law. Gaming might even have come in there at times and tried to run that thing to see if they were on their toes, but I have no idea whether or not that was the case.
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tsmith
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August 23rd, 2012 at 5:29:27 PM permalink
I thought it was a $500 buy limit, not a loss limit.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 5:30:57 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

What?

When I said 100 FOR 1, I was talking a bet of at least $1.50. That's $150, gotta do my little dance, make a little love, OW, get down tonight.

I'm not doing it to attract attention, I'm doing it to celebrate. In fact, if there is someone in the same row, the row behind me, or basically, anywhere in my direct line of sight, I'll turn it off after five seconds or so. If I don't see anyone, I might let it play for a minute and focus on my coffee for a minute.



I celebrate your celebration! Party on...
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Mission146
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August 23rd, 2012 at 5:46:35 PM permalink
Thanks, AyeCarumba! If there is someone nearby that seems entertained by my little dance, though, I'll really put it on for them!

Quote: tsmith

I thought it was a $500 buy limit, not a loss limit.



Actually, I screwed this one up on two counts, but that's because I first heard it verbally and am surprised this guy was ever wrong about anything.

It was $500 every two hours, because that's how long the boats would go out for when they had to do that. They kept the law, until fairly recently, even after they didn't have to sail anymore. If you buy-in for $500, though, and gamble more than that, then it could still be said that your wife effectively bought in for you, or what have you. I can't think of any other reason whatsoever for the former to be the case.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 8:45:30 PM permalink
While playing craps in Vegas, I learned I could bump up my Pass Line bet AFTER the point has been established.
While bumping the pass line is generally not a good play, this is worth doing on a 2x odds table, where on a 6 or 8 you can bump a $10 PL to $15, and instead of being able to take $25 odds, you can now take $50 odds.

So, I assumed this play was always allowed. REALLY bad assumption. I bumped my Pass Line in Atlantic City one day and I thought the dealer was going to physically attack me. It was easily classified as a verbal assault. I said, "Sorry, I was not aware I could not make that play. They allow it in Vegas." His retort was, "Well do you think you are in Vegas now?", along with quite a bit of other crap that was way out of line. In any event, this jerk wad plus quite a few other dealers and pits is why I vowed in 1999 to never spend another $1 in an AC casino. With apologies to all the good folks in AC, that place cannot sink into the Atlantic fast enough.

So I learned to always ask what is allowed before doing anything that is not a standard play.
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98Clubs
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August 24th, 2012 at 2:29:39 AM permalink
Things a casino can teach you... how to pass poker chips to your partner in the bathroom?
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
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August 24th, 2012 at 3:02:09 AM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

I learned that many casinos that offer Caveman Keno often have the sound turned up to 120 decibels...way too loud


Well, anyone stupid enough to play the game is deserving of the noise.
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August 24th, 2012 at 6:09:12 AM permalink
I always let it go, and tell my wife to let it go. I say "Never stop a machine from giving you credits" I do play with the volume down though, I don't want to be purposefully annoying.

Gambling is supposed to be fun...
Mission146
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August 24th, 2012 at 7:41:18 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Well, anyone stupid enough to play the game is deserving of the noise.



That doesn't seem like a fair statement, if someone is playing predominantly for entertainment, what does it matter?

If you go see a movie, and pay $12.00 for your ticket, the ER is -$12.00, guaranteed. If one gets the same enjoyment out of Caveman Keno, but at a 90% ER, then why not stick the $12.00 in there, assuming same (or better) subjective entertainment value. I've never tried this exact thing, but I know you can find CK for a minimum bet of $0.05/card, if you turn the game down to the minimum speed and play $0.05/card with $12.00 coin-in, I bet you could last at least an hour, if not longer. Further, you could always end up hitting for something.

I think it's funny that a gambler would look down at someone who plays such a game with an ER of anything except -x, x being whatever the entertainment costs. At least you're not guaranteed to lose the $12.00, necessarily.

Could I play at minimum speed at $0.05/card? Probably not. That would get boring in a real hurry, and as soon as I hit 7-9 numbers and didn't make squat off of it, I'd be pretty irritated. However, there are some that could play at such a price at minimum game speed, and there are some that do, quite happily.
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August 24th, 2012 at 7:53:55 AM permalink
My wife plays the slots. I wouldn't dream of telling her to cut the celebration short on the rare occasion she hits a jackpot. She's like a child when that happens. Nothing warms my heart more than to see her so happy!

Thankfully, no bystander has expressed their displeasure either when I was around. It would not be a pleasurable experience.
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August 24th, 2012 at 10:26:36 AM permalink
When playing slots, arent you pretty much signing up for a boat ride up the annoying noise river? Im surprised at the complaints.

I will be honest, when management is encouraging my loud celebration I have to take advantage. It balances out the other times.

Last trip to vegas I was rolling through the slot area in Planet Hollywood and there was a crazy loud payout or bonus siren. It was piercing and after 30 seconds it still had not stopped. UGH it was really annoying, but man it must be some huge jackpot. Where were the attendants?? Finally I got out of the slots to a quieter section, when I realized the siren was the fire alarm, complete with strobes. I think I may have been the only one who noticed.
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August 24th, 2012 at 10:51:32 AM permalink
Quote: IdiotWheel

When playing slots, arent you pretty much signing up for a boat ride up the annoying noise river? Im surprised at the complaints.

I will be honest, when management is encouraging my loud celebration I have to take advantage. It balances out the other times.

Last trip to vegas I was rolling through the slot area in Planet Hollywood and there was a crazy loud payout or bonus siren. It was piercing and after 30 seconds it still had not stopped. UGH it was really annoying, but man it must be some huge jackpot. Where were the attendants?? Finally I got out of the slots to a quieter section, when I realized the siren was the fire alarm, complete with strobes. I think I may have been the only one who noticed.



Hahahaha... oh man, that was funny! Thanks for sharing.
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September 10th, 2012 at 11:08:08 AM permalink
Quote: tsmith

I wish some slot-players would learn that when they win a big amount that they can press the spin/take credit button and not have to make everybody around them have to listen to that annoying music for 20 minutes while the machine counts up.



I just encountered some of those Aristocrat slots you mentioned in another thread, and they were earsplittingly loud with no volume control. There's no way I would let one of those things count up my credits! Maybe it was just that particular casino since the Quick Hits machine I was playing was far louder than any other I have ever found.

Maybe they do that on purpose so you'll get back to putting the money back into the machine more quickly rather than taking that little break from the 10% house edge.
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September 10th, 2012 at 11:33:01 AM permalink
Max volume = Higher payouts. Proven science.
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September 10th, 2012 at 12:25:29 PM permalink
Something I learnt. In a live poker tournament, you don't fold your hand until it's your turn.
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September 10th, 2012 at 12:28:41 PM permalink
FarFromVegas -- yes, the Artistocrat music is the worst and most annoying I've ever heard, and no, they don't give you a volume control of any kind. What's even worse is that there are some games that make you wait so many seconds before they even let you fast forward the accumulator. Must be something to do with the way they play slots, called "pokies", in Australia.
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September 10th, 2012 at 12:32:02 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146


If you go see a movie, and pay $12.00 for your ticket, the ER is -$12.00, guaranteed.



you didn't count the time wasted (or even worse, being tortured).
2+ hours should add at least another -$15.00 even at minimum wage.
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September 10th, 2012 at 12:33:32 PM permalink
" Must be something to do with the way they play slots, called "pokies", in Australia " I wish they spoke English in Australia. I once had a beautiful girl named Angel offer to "post me a view " . I declined, thinking it had something to do with a telecommunications we were working on. Only later did I find out she had offered to mail me a picture of herself. And according to a co-worker, probably in a bikini.

Why the hell don't they speak English down under, mate ???
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September 10th, 2012 at 12:41:28 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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September 10th, 2012 at 12:41:29 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Something I learnt. In a live poker tournament, you don't fold your hand until it's your turn.



Hopefully you have not learned the hard way, even if you think you are beat at a showdown, don't muck your cards.
Just turn them face up, and let the dealer call your hand.
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September 10th, 2012 at 12:42:04 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff



Why the hell don't they speak English down under, mate ???


they speak Australian
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September 10th, 2012 at 12:45:10 PM permalink
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September 10th, 2012 at 12:46:11 PM permalink
Perhaps I can get a Canadian to translate, EH ?
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September 10th, 2012 at 5:31:33 PM permalink
Quote: tsmith

Back when Missouri first got gambling boats I learned a couple of things that were specific to them, while on a trip to visit in-laws in Kansas City. I learned that you were not allowed to get chips from your spouse when you ran out; you had to buy more of your own and play with them only. I learned that if your husband had to go to the bathroom and asked you to play his blackjack hand while he was gone, like you did in every other casino you'd ever gone to, that the dealer would slap your hand and yell at you when you tried to place a bet with "his" chips.



I lived in Missouri for a year, and used to gamble a lot in St Louis with the loss limits (which is what they were called, rather than a buy-in limit). Dealers would complain that people would turn over their ATM card thinking it was an ATM machine, or just expecting the casino to give them money. There were ways around the loss limits, and there was a thriving chip buying/selling business in the bathrooms, especially near the poker rooms.

Not only could you not give your husband/wife chips, you could get arrested if you were caught violating the rule. A belligerent drunk guy would often get kicked out because he refused to cooperate. It was silly, but those were the rules. After they got rid of them (within one week of the vote passing), people passed chips right and left. I played 21+3 and won more money from people betting on my hand than I did on the actual BJ game itself.
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