So THIS is why people lose in casino's...

I saw quite possibly THE reason people all wonder why I can continually go to casinos and NOT be broke...(aside of course from I'm just lucky, LOL)
So my gf and I were sitting playing a GameKing...one of the NEW ones with SuperTimesPay on it..
Looks something like this ->
So an older gentlemen sits down next to me, and starts watching me play...OK
He feeds money into the machine..still watches me play...OK
Then out of the blue he points DIRECTLY at the multiplier and says "How do you get that to come up?!?"
I reply "Well, it just randomly does."
He responds "NO! I mean how do you get THAT to come up?", this time banging on my screen.
I ask "Do you mean the game itself?"
(In a huffy voice) "YEAH!"
So I don't even really look and I just press the screen and continue to ignore him...
Now, up until this point, my gf and I had been having a great time playing SuperTimesPay (we love it because the multipliers come up and it's definitely a thrill)
SO of course we're still acting the same when the multiplier comes up and we get dealt something good...
It's quite obvious that this cranky old man is getting very agitated that we are consistently winning and he is getting NOTHING..
Finally, he grunts and cashes out an $0.80 ticket and leaves in a huff...
I looked over and he was playing 10c Triple Play on a bad payscale SuperDoubleBonus SuperTimesPay ($1.80 a pop)
I think he pretty much summed up ALL casino gamblers...
They absolutely have NO CLUE what game they're playing, so they are SOON parted with their money.
(I also could tell that he had NO idea of what cards to hold; and he freakin lost $100!)
Seriously...lol, all Krista and I could do was laugh.

He didn't read the rules or something?
I would think the signs showing the name of the game would be LARGE.
I don't play slots though.

Quote: TIMSPEED

They absolutely have NO CLUE what game they're playing,

Nope, and don't try wising them up, its a waste
of time and it just annoys them anyway.

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Quote: FleaStiff

He didn't read the rules or something?
I would think the signs showing the name of the game would be LARGE.
I don't play slots though.

LOL, apparently he didn't care enough to do anything of the sort...
On a similar note, once a lady asked me to explain SuperTimesPay to her and she asked me what the best game within it (JoB, BP, DDB) was to play...shoulda gave her a gold star for actually being CONCERNED about how she spent her money...
Like I always say..God Bless these people that lose they're money SO I DON'T HAVE TO! hahah

Horseshoe Southern Indiana has a relatively good repertoire of Video Poker machines, including 9/6 JoB throughout the casino. They don't have any competition (per se) for miles, and nearly all the casinos in Indiana have downgraded their offerings in VP, some to the point where they aren't playable.

I was talking to a dealer once about this, and how I hoped that they would never change the paybacks. She said not to worry; there were enough bad players to make up for the ones that knew what they were doing. She suggested that was the same with BJ, which is why they haven't gone to the 6:5 trend.

I know my bio line isn't a direct quote (largely because the original could be offensive), but I'm pretty sure it sums up casino gamblers...

Quote: TIMSPEED

I saw quite possibly THE reason people all wonder why I can continually go to casinos and NOT be broke...(aside of course from I'm just lucky, LOL)

Last night one woman in my pod insisted that the casino sets the slots to pay out so much per day so you need to get to the machine before 7:30ish in the evening or the pay rate falls off. I replied about how a RNG works and there is no real way to know what machine will pay more except in very general guesses, eg: the "theme" machines have to pay a royalty so expect the payout on "Sex and the City" to be lower than "Double Diamond" to make up for it, but that is still just a guess.

No, my (mother/aunt/cousin) has seen this happen.

Sometimes I wish they would just put me in the basement, alone, like Milton.

I'm not surprised to hear any of this. I remember one night at WI playing the Progressive QuickHits (even though I usually play the Flat Tops) and there was a machine in a six machine bank that must have recently hit for the top pay because every single progressive had been cleared and reduced to very near the flat top level. I will admit that I do not know how the Progressives worked on this particular bank because each machine was pretty much doing its own thing with the Progressives, but they were going up way to fast to be a machine-specific Progressive. They were either linked up with an even distribution, or they were maybe linked to others on some kind of network.

The thing is, this guy sits down at the machine that had apparently recently hit for the big one declaring it, "Hot," where the top Progressive for that machine was paying $5,001.xx at the moment. The machine right next to him (same type of machine) had a top Progressive that was very close to 7K, and all of them were higher, of course, because they hadn't been hit recently.

I just shook my head, let him feed the darn Progressive at that machine back up at a horrible ER. He doesn't know anything about the fact that some Progressive machines can actually be played at a positive ER if the Progressive has crept up high enough, and if not, a higher Progressive at least takes a bite out of the -ER. I sized him up and decided there was no point in trying to explain it to him, because if a machine hits for the top pay it must be, "Hot," and, "Due," to do it again. Oh well.

When I started going to Vegas I mostly played VP. At the time I had no idea there were different pay tables for the same game. I mean, I knew DW paid differently than JoB, but not that a DW machine would pay differently than antoher DW machine.

I dind't know anything about strategy, either. But as I learned strategies, I realized my assumptions of how to play were pretty close to correct. Meaning I had a good implicit understanding of probabilities in poker.

This brings me to the worst gambling mistake ever in my life: not learning about gambling sooner. That is, I didn't bother to look up the mechanics and odds of games until after my second trip to Vegas. Thats' when I eventually found the Wizard's sites, while looking for instructions on how to play craps... Well, now I don't go anywhere without a sheet of VP pay tables or, better yet, the Bible (i.e. Gambling 102 by one Michael Shackleford, a.k.a. the Wizard). I also practice play before the trip.

The point is that most recreational gamblers are as clueless as I was. That's why you see people playing an 8/5 JoB right next to a 9/6 JoB with the same denomination. Many of them, I'm sure, aren't even aware there's a difference between the two machines. And that's why I can tell stories like "At the Cal they have 10/7 DB at $0.50 and $1 in the same bank of machines. It pays a 1,000 coin bonus for royals in hearts. And it's always empty!"

No idea, BTW, how many of such recreational gamblers play frequently and how many play only every few years.

Remember when I posted about the guy playing a blackjack slot machine whose screen suddenly resolved to the word (shuffling) decided that there had to be a midget inside the machine who was shuffling because a machine wouldn't need to shuffle the cards?
Now folks that was actually true. I told him his name was Harold and when he started conversing with Harold this woman at the nearby machine looked weird and moved away.

Never underestimate the stupidity of anyone.

Like my tagline says...
I just let people believe what they wanna believe...
I don't think I was ever at the point of not being an informed gambler...
I (don't laugh) started with video keno, haha, and I actually did a bunch of research and came up with the best payback was like 93%...which I thought HAD to be better than the slots...
Then I started digging around and learned to count cards and played BJ for a great number of years, every day.
After that I got into craps, seeing as how it's the "best odds in the house"
After that, I got into video poker and studied how to work the "comp game" to my advantage...

My favorite are the people who sit down with $5, play the minimum, and then leave in a huff when they don't hit for hundreds of dollars during the 3 minutes of play before they're out of money. Then they repeat that at other machines all night long, and somehow think they had fun in the end.

edit: I guess that pretty much describes my golf game - 4 hours of cursing and frustration, $100 down the drain, and then I want to repeat it as often as possible...

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My favorite are the people who sit down with $5, play the minimum, and then leave in a huff when they don't hit for hundreds of dollars during the 3 minutes of play before they're out of money. Then they repeat that at other machines all night long, and somehow think they had fun in the end.

I actually saw THAT TOO!
LOL, same machines...these old women (well into their 60's+) all sat at them (a bank of 4) and put in a $5 bill at a time, and played 15 quarters a pop! LOL! WTF?!? Are they hoping to IMMEDIATELY hit...but the funny part was, they'd just keep doing that...must have went through at least $100...and they'd play terrible too! (Like holding a pair with a high card!)