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EvenBob
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July 4th, 2012 at 9:15:09 PM permalink
You can no longer sell anything on the street in Clark County
without a business license. Uh Oh.
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July 4th, 2012 at 9:22:05 PM permalink
Strange thing is they are cracking down on the folks selling bottled water for a dollar, but the porn snappers/slappers and street performers and those dressed up for photo ops aren't being cracked down on as they aren't selling anything. Although one could argue that the porn snappers/slappers are selling sex...lol. Also the homeless asking for money, some for beer or cancer treatments aren't effected by this ruling as they aren't selling anything.
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July 4th, 2012 at 10:52:23 PM permalink
The guys selling water aren't half as annoying as the people wearing costumes or trying to give me a hand full or porn cards
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July 4th, 2012 at 11:15:23 PM permalink
Quote: Beardgoat

The guys selling water aren't half as annoying as the people wearing costumes or trying to give me a hand full or porn cards



They're next, wait and see..
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July 5th, 2012 at 6:34:11 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Strange thing is they are cracking down on the folks selling bottled water for a dollar



That sucks. It's great to grab a cold bottle of water for a buck as I move from casino to casino.
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July 5th, 2012 at 7:05:52 AM permalink
Actually, it has always been illegal - it's just that now, instead of a ticket, it's an arrestable offense.

From what I have been able to gather, a "grocer/food sales" license costs $600/year (plus $45 for the initial application).
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July 5th, 2012 at 7:07:25 AM permalink
Quote: RoundMan

That sucks. It's great to grab a cold bottle of water for a buck as I move from casino to casino.


Especially because that same bottle of water costs you $3.50 inside the casino gift shop, which probably is the reason for the crackdown on those selling water. Leave it up to politicians. People have been complaining about the pornslappers ever since I remember on my trips to Vegas. Shutting down those selling water for $1 on a 110 degree mid summer day is the equivalent of shutting down a 6 year old's lemonade stand, which sad to say, also has happened.
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July 5th, 2012 at 7:29:12 AM permalink
Those of you who buy those $1 bottles of water should be informed that sometimes they take used bottles out of the trash and fill them with tap water. Source.
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July 5th, 2012 at 7:33:34 AM permalink
But shouldn't you be able to tell that by the tamper seal being broken? For instance there is that little ring below the bottlecap, if there is a gap between the cap and the ring, you know where he got it, or if you don't hear the ring breaking while opening, you know where he got it. I would tend to think you could tell if it was packaged at the factory just by looking in his cooler.
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July 5th, 2012 at 7:38:53 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Those of you who buy those $1 bottles of water should be informed that sometimes they take used bottles out of the trash and fill them with tap water. Source.



I hope I didn't consume any? I think I would have noticed opening
a previously opened bottle? But can't say I ever inspected the bottle
before opening. Don't they all have a cap that splits when opening
for the first time?

Oh well, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?
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July 5th, 2012 at 7:50:23 AM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

But shouldn't you be able to tell that by the tamper seal being broken? For instance there is that little ring below the bottlecap, if there is a gap between the cap and the ring, you know where he got it, or if you don't hear the ring breaking while opening, you know where he got it.



People are so naive.

You can buy any amount of pristine bottle caps in any color you want from any number of suppliers. You can buy pristine bottles, too, but these are more expensive. Anyway, it's easy to place the caps, with intact rings, in any bottle. And when you twist them open the plastic ring breaks open too.
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July 5th, 2012 at 7:54:46 AM permalink
Quote: RoundMan

I hope I didn't consume any? I think I would have noticed opening
a previously opened bottle? But can't say I ever inspected the bottle
before opening. Don't they all have a cap that splits when opening
for the first time?



What they do is twist the cap, as if to loosen it for you. However, it may just be a show to make you think it is a new bottle. I suppose you could specifically ask for an "unopened" bottle. However, you risk offending the guy by implying he sells used bottles. I tend to think most of the time they do sell new ones.
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July 5th, 2012 at 7:57:41 AM permalink
It seems to me that it is a pretty simple business model. Own a cooler. Buy 3 cases of water at $6 a pop sell individual bottles at $1 a piece for $72. Even with gas factored in you are making money
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:00:18 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

What they do is twist the cap, as if to loosen it for you. However, it may just be a show to make you think it is a new bottle. I suppose you could specifically ask for an "unopened" bottle. However, you risk offending the guy by implying he sells used bottles. I tend to think most of the time they do sell new ones.



I look at it this way, the profit margin at $24/case is so high there is little reason to need to trash-dive and find the used bottles. But there are people so crooked they will do it. Caveat Emptor.

As to the whole issue, there is no "right" to sell cheap water on a sidewalk the casino probably owns anyways. The lemonade stand is probably in the kids driveway. If the "city" (or whatever Hendersonvill is incorporated as) bans it then people need to vote out the council that banned it.

FWIW I do wish they would find some accomidation to tone down the porn slappers.
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:02:51 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

What they do is twist the cap, as if to loosen it for you. However, it may just be a show to make you think it is a new bottle.



Nothing so complicated as that, unless they like relieving the tedium byt playing with the customers.

Really, you find the caps, with rings, for sale at hardware stores. And if not at any supplier of PVC and plastic bottles and containers. They screw on with the rings intact, as theya re designed to do. They may be worth a few dollars per hundred.
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:09:34 AM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

It seems to me that it is a pretty simple business model. Own a cooler. Buy 3 cases of water at $6 a pop sell individual bottles at $1 a piece for $72. Even with gas factored in you are making money



Indeed, earning more than a small stakes amateur counter like myself.
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:17:31 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Nothing so complicated as that, unless they like relieving the tedium byt playing with the customers.

Really, you find the caps, with rings, for sale at hardware stores. And if not at any supplier of PVC and plastic bottles and containers. They screw on with the rings intact, as theya re designed to do. They may be worth a few dollars per hundred.



So in this story Nareed, the part that offends you is NOT that they are taking bottles out of the trash, but that they are using tap water?
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:21:49 AM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

So in this story Nareed, the part that offends you is NOT that they are taking bottles out of the trash, but that they are using tap water?



Offend? How the hell do you come up with that?

I'm saying there's no need to play games with the caps, or to suppose an intact cap means a new bottle. An intact cap means nothing, because you can get them easily. So if you think an intact cap means the bottle did not come fromt he trash, then I hope you've had all your shots and your health and life insurance is paid up.
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:27:19 AM permalink
"Water Water one dollar!"

I'd much rather them get rid of the porn slappers. Afterall that leads to litter everywhere and kids walking the strip with their families end up seeing that stuff.
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:27:24 AM permalink
LOL! A quick glance at Home Depot's website, you can't even find any there. You can find beer bottle caps, but not tamper evident ones.
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:37:01 AM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

LOL! A quick glance at Home Depot's website, you can't even find any there. You can find beer bottle caps, but not tamper evident ones.



I have bought hundreds at the hardware store accross the street.

if you want to have an argument over bottle caps, go find someone else.
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:42:36 AM permalink
I , unike Nareed, am open-minded and will argue about bottle caps at any time !
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:43:44 AM permalink
Nareed-

I had NO idea that someone could purchase intact bottle caps. I learned something new,
and its not even 12 noon yet. Thanks.

Then again, I'm not thrilled about learning that I likely consumed water from an
unknown source out of a previously used bottle. Ouch!
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:52:55 AM permalink
Quote: slyther

"Water Water one dollar!"

I'd much rather them get rid of the porn slappers. Afterall that leads to litter everywhere and kids walking the strip with their families end up seeing that stuff.



The problem is that it leads to bigger problems. "Aquifina" is just a "gateway bottled water." The kids try it and then they want Evian, then Perrier, eventually they are hooked on Ramlosa.
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:56:32 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

if you want to have an argument over bottle caps, go find someone else.



I was planning to make tapa a Spanish word of the day, because I don't understand whether it means bottle cap or snack. However, I'll wait a while until this blows over.

Seriously, putting aside the issue of the used bottles, these people are doing business on city property with no license and paying no fee for use of the space. The police have every right to go after them. On the other hand, if I was really thirsty, and I saw a bunch of identical looking bottles in the cooler, I would be a hypocrite and buy one.

By the way, most cocktail waitresses carry around bottles of water on their trays because they are requested so often. I would bet most would "give" you a couple for a tip of a buck.
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July 5th, 2012 at 8:57:30 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

The problem is that it leads to bigger problems. "Aquifina" is just a "gateway bottled water." The kids try it and then they want Evian, then Perrier, eventually they are hooked on Ramlosa.



What about Fiji water? Poker players seem to be hooked on that.
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July 5th, 2012 at 9:08:48 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Seriously, putting aside the issue of the used bottles, these people are doing business on city property with no license and paying no fee for use of the space.



Yup. Vegas should do away with business licenses. But the chances of that are lower than finding the Higgs Bosons adn repealing Obamacare in a span of 12 months.
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July 5th, 2012 at 10:05:46 AM permalink
I've never bought water because I never walk on the Strip. I have
a rental car, why would I? I can walk at home, I didn't fly 2000
miles so I can waste my precious Vegas time walking around.
Whenever I drive on the Strip and see the thousands of pedestrians,
it always baffles me. Seriously, I don't get it. Its 110 in the shade.
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July 5th, 2012 at 10:46:20 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I've never bought water because I never walk on the Strip. I have
a rental car, why would I? I can walk at home, I didn't fly 2000
miles so I can waste my precious Vegas time walking around.
Whenever I drive on the Strip and see the thousands of pedestrians,
it always baffles me. Seriously, I don't get it. Its 110 in the shade.



You don't get that some people like to drink while in Vegas? Really? Really?
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July 5th, 2012 at 10:50:00 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

You don't get that some people like to drink while in Vegas? Really? Really?



I don't get walking on the Strip in Vegas, I never have. I did it
once in the 80's and that was enough.
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July 5th, 2012 at 11:05:13 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I don't get walking on the Strip in Vegas, I never have. I did it
once in the 80's and that was enough.

Bob -
If you were going from Bally's to Planet Hollywood,
would you walk or drive?
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July 5th, 2012 at 11:15:16 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Bob -
If you were going from Bally's to Planet Hollywood,
would you walk or drive?



Take a cab or drive, I never walk anywhere except
Downtown. And I always use valet parking, its the
best deal in Vegas. If you pull up and they say valet
is full, whip out a 5 spot and say 'really'? It always
works, a space magically opens for your car. But
I never go to either of those casinos, so its moot.

The only Strip casinos I go to are MGM, Mandalay,
Paris, Bellagio, NYNY, Wynn, Flamingo, Venetian.
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July 5th, 2012 at 11:16:20 AM permalink
Quote: slyther

What about Fiji water? Poker players seem to be hooked on that.



I tried that stuff once. Always thought it was a silly thing, but it was priced same as any other bottled water so did a wth and tried it.

Tasted just like water. Sorry Jimmy Snuka.
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July 5th, 2012 at 11:33:19 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

The problem is that it leads to bigger problems. "Aquifina" is just a "gateway bottled water." The kids try it and then they want Evian, then Perrier, eventually they are hooked on Ramlosa.



Funniest post in three days! Kudos.
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July 5th, 2012 at 11:33:20 AM permalink
I get my water from the reverse osmosis machine at
the grocery store, 38 cents a gallon in your own jug.
Good stuff, its the only beverage I drink besides vodka.
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July 5th, 2012 at 2:16:43 PM permalink
Best water play on the Strip and downtown is ABC stores where you can get a liter for $1 (one 1L bottle or 2 500ml's). Beats the pants off the cooler guys.
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