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June 17th, 2013 at 7:02:17 PM permalink
Operating the engine due to compression of the fuel and air mixture with detonation taking place due to high temperature metal but no spark because the ignition switch is off. Diesel engines usually having spark plugs only for starting purposes, not operating purposes.
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June 17th, 2013 at 7:09:18 PM permalink
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I always seemed to have a standard transmission when I had a car like that. I'd park it in gear and let out the clutch of course. End of that.



Lol I can’t say the same. This is actually one of my earliest memories, I must’ve been 3 or 4 at the time. I think I’d always look forward to it because gramma would light it up with German curses, and I always thought it was hilarious whenever she went off.

Nowadays, I just have to deal with the incessant dinging of the idiot light, and deal with it not passing inspection without hooking it up to a computer that costs $200 just for the hookup, let alone the repair.
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June 18th, 2013 at 9:25:04 PM permalink
Oh! I remembered another one, hoping some of you old timers can explain it for me.

My grandma had a set of giant wooden silverware, a fork and spoon. By giant, I mean about 2 inches thick, probably 3+ feet long, and hung on the wall as decor. When she moved, they always went with her. I also noticed them in other folk's houses, but only if they were about or into their 70s (they would be pushing 100 today)

Was there something about that generation or time frame? I only ever remember seeing them in folks born in the 20s and 30s, and it seemed most of them had them...
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June 19th, 2013 at 3:14:23 AM permalink
Quote: Face

Oh! I remembered another one, hoping some of you old timers can explain it for me.

My grandma had a set of giant wooden silverware, a fork and spoon. By giant, I mean about 2 inches thick, probably 3+ feet long, and hung on the wall as decor. When she moved, they always went with her. I also noticed them in other folk's houses, but only if they were about or into their 70s (they would be pushing 100 today)

Was there something about that generation or time frame? I only ever remember seeing them in folks born in the 20s and 30s, and it seemed most of them had them...



We had them in my mother's (born early 1940s) kitchen. Just a kind of decoration like a velvet elvis or something. Someone will someday look at us and wonder what *we* were thinking.
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June 19th, 2013 at 3:21:04 AM permalink
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The car guys always called that 'dieseling'. To this day I
still don't know why it was called that.



It is called that because large diesel engines "chugga chugga" for s second or two when they are turned off, smaller diesels too back in the day. When you shut off a gas engine you kill power to the spark plugs so they stop immediately. When you kill a diesel you stop fuel flow, but a residual amount will still be flowing, hence it runs that second or two to burn it off.

1970s and early 1980s cars with gas engines "dieseled" because fuel from the carb would still flow. With all the primitive emission controls of the day combined with lower octane gasoline igniting before the piston reached top-dead-center and sparked caused the "dieseling" effect.
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June 19th, 2013 at 3:55:56 AM permalink
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wooden silverware



Now THERE's an oxymoron... ;-)
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June 19th, 2013 at 5:48:29 AM permalink
Heh. She's got some big ones.

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June 19th, 2013 at 6:14:47 AM permalink
Quote: Face

Lol I can’t say the same. This is actually one of my earliest memories, I must’ve been 3 or 4 at the time. I think I’d always look forward to it because gramma would light it up with German curses, and I always thought it was hilarious whenever she went off.

Nowadays, I just have to deal with the incessant dinging of the idiot light, and deal with it not passing inspection without hooking it up to a computer that costs $200 just for the hookup, let alone the repair.



I feel only slightly better that hook up cost me just $90 last time. Apparently it was foty five minutes work. When I had access to that box, took me ten minutes to hook up and get reading, and look up the error code. And five of thosecwas walking to and from the car.
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June 19th, 2013 at 4:17:44 PM permalink
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June 25th, 2013 at 7:22:25 PM permalink
Remember when you had to register your car plate
for another year and you had to go all the way to the
DMV and they'd give you two new heavy plates, one
the front and back. Now one plate lasts the car's lifetime,
or your lifetime if you have it switched when you get
another car.

What a waste that was, but what a boon for the plate
collectors. Without it there would be nothing to collect.
Mike would be collecting cocktail swizzle sticks.
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July 1st, 2013 at 3:15:03 AM permalink
Hi Guys,
I am new to this forum and had been playing "Pontoon" or Spanish 21 for years. lately, I have been travelling to some overseas casino where they only have Blackjacks. Been in there a few rounds and lost some serious money. Coming back, I check most Gurus and Professors and found that they advocate Card Counting. To me and in this era, where all or almost all Asians casinos are using CSMs, Continious Shuffling Machines, the used cards are placed back into the machines for immediate shuffling. In addition, the cards within these machines are continiously shuffled. So, where in the name of a "Professional" can you count the hi-lo and "rich" cards??? The counters are a joking lot and need their motives and advices checked and re-check. Please tell me I am wrong....

(Taken from Blackjack Forum, would appreciate Bob to give us his views and opinion there)
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July 1st, 2013 at 3:44:38 AM permalink
Mr. Raider, you are going to run afoul of the moderators here with these tactics. Your post is off-topic.

why don't you just send a personal message to this person you seem to be stalking?
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August 16th, 2013 at 2:43:28 PM permalink
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August 16th, 2013 at 3:05:42 PM permalink
They used to say 1 million sold in the eary 60's, 1963 or so and
it was a very big deal.
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August 16th, 2013 at 3:16:04 PM permalink
I remember it was a big deal when the signage changed.....over 1 million served then over 5 million ..... then ten million etc.
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August 16th, 2013 at 3:18:37 PM permalink
I was thinking the same thing, EB: I barely remember it, but it was a big event in town when they changed the sign to "1 million served". Had the high school band play, ribbon cutting, that sort of thing. Hamburgers were 19c, fries 25c, shakes 25c when I was in high school. And all of it tasted better back then than it does now.

Remember when, in public school, nobody could wear t-shirts, shorts or jeans, girls had to wear skirts, no one could come without socks, and no one could wear tennis shoes except in gym class? Remember when there WAS gym class?

Remember when, whether Catholic or Protestant, women wore gloves and pantihose to church, and only little girls were allowed to wear socks? Men always wore suit and tie, and shined their shoes. It was a BIG deal when the men got to wear leisure suits as dressy enough for business or church; we have some hysterical pictures of the family from back then.

Remember when cars like the Buick Riviera had push-button transmissions? We thought that was a marvel.

Our dad always had a new station wagon every year, because he sold boxes and was on the road for 100K+ miles/year, so the company bought it for him. Also fancy gifts we all wrapped for Christmas for his customers, and we all learned to serve drinks from the full bar in the house and played with the customer's kids without complaint. But back to the station wagon....dad had 2 thin mattresses made that fit snugly with all back seats folded down, and we went on long driving vacations 2x year with all us kids bouncing around in the back. No seat belts. Mom and dad would flip to see who got to drive, and the loser had to referee the kids from the shotgun seat. Hardly any interstate; everything on the US highway system, usually 2 lane.
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August 16th, 2013 at 6:15:04 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

But back to the station wagon....dad had 2 thin mattresses made that fit snugly with all back seats folded down, and we went on long driving vacations 2x year with all us kids bouncing around in the back. No seat belts. Mom and dad would flip to see who got to drive, and the loser had to referee the kids from the shotgun seat. Hardly any interstate; everything on the US highway system, usually 2 lane.



Yup, and there were no fast food joints before the
interstates. There were no chain restaurants, just
mom and pop places where you got burgers and
fried chicken. The freeway system killed dead a
huge part of the rural economy when all the state
highway diners and gas stations and motels had
to close when their business disappeared overnight.

If you drive the two lane highways a lot of the buildings
are still there, all boarded up. Always eat where there
were the most semi's was the standard, the truckers
knew where the best greasy spoons were.
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August 16th, 2013 at 6:36:09 PM permalink
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August 16th, 2013 at 6:43:00 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Yup, and there were no fast food joints before the
interstates. There were no chain restaurants, just
mom and pop places where you got burgers and
fried chicken. The freeway system killed dead a
huge part of the rural economy when all the state
highway diners and gas stations and motels had
to close when their business disappeared overnight.

If you drive the two lane highways a lot of the buildings
are still there, all boarded up. Always eat where there
were the most semi's was the standard, the truckers
knew where the best greasy spoons were.



We usually hauled a little trailer, about a 14' for all of us to sleep in, and mom would cook out of it. Restaurants were a twice a year thing for us kids. I remember heading to the Black Hills (SD) and Yellowstone; we were on a steep uphill and the trailer popped off the hitch and went backwards down the mountain. We were lucky, though, it just dragged itself to a stop on the hitch yoke (two-wheeler) before it went over a cliff. But we thought it was pretty funny watching the sparks fly as it sputtered off behind. Mom and dad were having an argument and none of us wanted to interrupt them to mention it, so it was 3-4 miles before dad looked in the rearview and noticed he could actually see out it. (we were pretty young, about 9yrs old to 5 yrs old; you didn't interrupt your parents in those days for anything.) One of those memories...
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August 16th, 2013 at 6:46:32 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Restaurants were a twice a year thing for us kids. .



You were rich, we ate out twice in my entire childhood.
We never thought about it, none of our friends ate out
either. There just were not many restaurants and they
were all in the city. We lived in the burbs.

I dated a girl with kids in 1969 and all her little kids wanted
was McDonalds and BK. It drove me nuts. My parents
never would have wasted the money, my mom even baked
our bread from scratch.
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August 16th, 2013 at 9:29:02 PM permalink
I remember when I was very young my father being real upset that he had to go to the bank.....i learned in later years he went for a loan to get enough coal to heat the house for the winter.....no loan would have meant no furnace all winter with four young kids in the house. Years later when I had my own young children I coudn't possibly worry about anything small.
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August 16th, 2013 at 9:44:30 PM permalink
We had a coal furnace, they delivered it by the
ton down the coal chute. We shoveled it into
the furnace just like they did the steam locomotives.
If you had a lot of coal dust in the shovel, the
flames would shoot 2 feet out the furnace door.
Sure kept the house warm, far better than gas
and way way cheaper.
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August 17th, 2013 at 6:25:19 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

We had a coal furnace, they delivered it by the
ton down the coal chute. We shoveled it into
the furnace just like they did the steam locomotives.
If you had a lot of coal dust in the shovel, the
flames would shoot 2 feet out the furnace door.
Sure kept the house warm, far better than gas
and way way cheaper.



We had the same thing in this house we lived in when I was really young, except the coal wasn't delivered, se went somewhere and got it in a pick-up truck. I forget how much a truckload was, I was 4-6 years old at the time, but I do remember throwing the smaller bits of coal into the truck. Good times with my Dad, except for the time when I thought I'd steal a drink from his Coke can (I drank all of mine) and took a nice big gulp of chaw spit instead!!! We moved when I was either five or six, don't quite remember whether I was six yet...it was close, electric forced air where we moved to, same thing I have now.
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August 17th, 2013 at 10:56:24 AM permalink
I sometimes think we are going back to those times when families didn't have much and were forced into a lot of little economies to 'make it'. People knew if there were kids, the family likely needed help. People accepted that most people were poor people; families that had a little more still didnt have much. 'Rich' or 'well off' was rare.
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August 17th, 2013 at 1:38:44 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I sometimes think we are going back to those times when families didn't have much and were forced into a lot of little economies to 'make it'. .



The difference is now there's welfare and food stamps.
There was nothing like that during the Depression. You
can make a career off of the welfare system, people have
been doing it for decades.
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August 17th, 2013 at 1:59:15 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I sometimes think we are going back to those times when families didn't have much and were forced into a lot of little economies to 'make it'. People knew if there were kids, the family likely needed help. People accepted that most people were poor people; families that had a little more still didnt have much. 'Rich' or 'well off' was rare.



I totally agree that we are going in that direction. North America and Western Europe have peaked as far as life style is concernced. We have started on a long decline in our standard of living since the old levels of consumption are no longer substainable and the rest of the world will no longer subisidize our standard of living they way they once did. Many people are pushing for so called greener alternatives without realizing what this really means to their standard of living. We see the beginning of this now as the general population is starting to see that things are not getting better and many of the changes that they originally thought were temporary don't seem to be going away.

This means that everyone nows looks for a scapegoat: immigrants, China, unions, rich people, Obama, left, right. We must be able to blame somebody other than our own greed over the last 60 or so years. The turmoil this creates and how it plays out in various countries is going to create even greater problems as the general population has to get used to the idea that they will need to live more like their grandparents rather than the easy high end life they had envisioned. This new life will not be terrible once everyone accepts that what we had once taken for granted is no longer attainable for most people.
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August 17th, 2013 at 2:05:28 PM permalink
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I totally agree that we are going in that direction.



There's a whole culture now that dumpster dives
and lives off others used junk. 2nd hand stores
are flourishing and thats never a sign of a good
economy. All these storage locker shows on TV,
most of the buyers have 2nd hand stores where
they unload this junk. Eventually you get to where
Germany was in the 1920's, everything is second
hand because nobody has the money to buy new.
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August 17th, 2013 at 7:06:45 PM permalink
Back in my day, we were poor, and when it snowed we wrapped barbed wire around our bare feet for better traction when we walked to school, and we liked it.
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August 18th, 2013 at 1:09:31 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Back in my day, we were poor, and when it snowed we wrapped barbed wire around our bare feet for better traction when we walked to school, and we liked it.



People always had it worse back in the day: Walking uphill both ways in the snow barefoot with a baked potato in their pockets to warm them up during the cold winters. Terraforming sure did change the uphill roads.
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August 18th, 2013 at 1:45:47 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Back in my day, we were poor, and when it snowed we wrapped barbed wire around our bare feet for better traction when we walked to school, and we liked it.

Oooh, you were so lucky! We use to DREAM of barbed wire! When it snowed we had to roll naked in the middle of the road to school which often crushed our frozen yarbles. But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.
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August 18th, 2013 at 5:31:30 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

everything is second
hand because nobody has the money to buy new.

Half the junk you can buy in a 2nd hand store is more expensive then it is at Walmart.
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August 18th, 2013 at 8:01:12 AM permalink
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Oooh, you were so lucky! We use to DREAM of barbed wire! When it snowed we had to roll naked in the middle of the road to school which often crushed our frozen yarbles. But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.



At least you had a road!

When I was small the whole lot of us lived in a shoebox in the middle of a frozen field! I had to work before school, getting up for work an hour before I went to bed. Instead of earning a wage I had to pay the foreman for the job I had carrying 50lb blocks of ice up five, maybe six flights of steps. Then off to school where the headmaster would beat us with no mercy for answering the teacher's question of us instead of being quiet in class like we were supposed to be!
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August 18th, 2013 at 8:12:00 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I sometimes think we are going back to those times when families didn't have much and were forced into a lot of little economies to 'make it'. People knew if there were kids, the family likely needed help. People accepted that most people were poor people; families that had a little more still didnt have much. 'Rich' or 'well off' was rare.



We are going in a direction where more and more people will have "side hustles" to either make it or make it better than they are. But that was always more common back in the day and the fact that we got away from it is amazing.

The kids used to have a paper route of maybe cut lawns. Mom or the sisters might have babysat. Dad might have picked up something here or there. It all added up, and it does now. Or there was a small family-owned business and everybody showed up to help somehow.

You can either hustle to get what you want or need or you can watch "Honey Boo Boo" and whine that you do not. The simple fact is that 40 hours is not going to put most people in a comfortable situation. Anyone I know who is thriving either owns their own business or juggles several side-hustles that convert time you are spending money to time you are making it.

The money is out there, you pick it up it is yours. You don't I got no sympathy for you.
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August 18th, 2013 at 9:17:53 AM permalink
Lots of people watch Honey Boo Boo and are successful.

I'm thriving on 40 hours a week (single employer) with a daughter and a wife with very little income. So now, AZ, you know me, and you can now say, "One person I know works forty hours a week" and is doing quite well.
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August 18th, 2013 at 12:51:45 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman



When I was small the whole lot of us lived in a shoebox in the middle of a frozen field!



You joke, but in the early 60's we had to walk a
quarter mile to the school bus stop and some kids
had to walk a mile. Now the bus stops at every
damn driveway and half the time mommy is
waiting so their little fat asses don't get lost from
the road to the house. My parents didn't know where
we were half the time, let alone worry about it.
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August 18th, 2013 at 12:59:57 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You joke, but in the early 60's we had to walk a
quarter mile to the school bus stop and some kids
had to walk a mile. Now the bus stops at every
damn driveway and half the time mommy is
waiting so their little fat asses don't get lost from
the road to the house. My parents didn't know where
we were half the time, let alone worry about it.



My grandkids still walk 1/2 mile to the bus stop including days it is -20 F. The only thing that really worries me is that there is usually at least 1 cougar siiting within a couple of miles of their house every year.
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August 18th, 2013 at 1:03:15 PM permalink
Do you remember when you thought Roy Orbison was blind? (or was it just me)

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August 18th, 2013 at 1:05:45 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You joke, but in the early 60's we had to walk a
quarter mile to the school bus stop and some kids
had to walk a mile. Now the bus stops at every
damn driveway and half the time mommy is
waiting so their little fat asses don't get lost from
the road to the house. My parents didn't know where
we were half the time, let alone worry about it.



OMG! You old fella's and your walk 5 miles to school, uphill BOTH ways. I have an older playing partner that I reside with that seems to live in the past, always talking about the 'good old days'. Must be an old people thing. Lol

Now that school bus stopping at every driveway thing IS very annoying, especially if you are behind the bus. :-( But, now a day's there are just so many perverts and child predetors out there, I guess being overprotective is a necessity.

OTOH, what are parents so worried about? They can always (usually) make more children. Lol. (OK...not politically correct)
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August 18th, 2013 at 1:22:17 PM permalink
>Remember when, whether Catholic or Protestant, women wore gloves and pantihose nylons to church?
>Men always wore suit and tie, and shined their shoes.
Seen any boot blacks recently? Shoe shine stands? Used to be a boot black would steer you to a craps game or a bookie. Now you can't even find a shoe shine stand.
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August 18th, 2013 at 1:43:25 PM permalink
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But, now a day's there are just so many perverts and child predetors out there, )



Nope. Do the research and you'll see per capita
there aren't more than there ever were. Its just
that previous to about the 90's, they didn't get
all that much publicity. Now they got people believing
there's a perv behind every bush and its just not
true. There's not a shred of evidence to back it up.

My parents in the 50's always told us not to take candy
from strangers, tho they never told us why. Then we'd
go play for 7 hours and come home at dark. Every kid
did.
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August 18th, 2013 at 2:28:43 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Nope. Do the research and you'll see per capita
there aren't more than there ever were. Its just
that previous to about the 90's, they didn't get
all that much publicity. Now they got people believing
there's a perv behind every bush and its just not
true. There's not a shred of evidence to back it up.

My parents in the 50's always told us not to take candy
from strangers, tho they never told us why. Then we'd
go play for 7 hours and come home at dark. Every kid
did.



That is totally true but most people won,t believe us Bob.
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MrV
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August 18th, 2013 at 2:48:58 PM permalink
Quote: kenarman

My grandkids still walk 1/2 mile to the bus stop including days it is -20 F. The only thing that really worries me is that there is usually at least 1 cougar siiting within a couple of miles of their house every year.



They got nothing to worry about until their balls drop.

Cougars: they do love their young prey.

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August 18th, 2013 at 3:19:02 PM permalink
Yeah, our day went:

Get woken up, get tubbed and dressed, come down to breakfast (oatmeal, cereal, or eggs and toast; sometimes bacon)
Walk to school regardless of weather, up to 2 miles away, until High School (over 3 miles away-the cutoff), when we rode a city bus free with student ID.
Ride bikes anywhere else you wanted to go (we didn't use them for school transport; can't remember why); no mommy-taxi. I was taking the bus to piano lessons from age 10, about 10 miles away.
Play outside after school unless it was your sport's season or scout night; nobody hung around the house before dinner.
Eat home-cooked, do dishes, do homework, go to bed reading. In the summer, play outside after dinner until the porch light went on. Very little supervision, almost no tv, certainly no computer.
Weekends, yard work and cleaning chores, play outside, read under the tree. Church Sunday. Play with parent friends' kids while they played bridge.

Poor Mom. Geez. All that cooking, cleaning, and laundry. Dad on the road 4-5 days a week.
But we had it great, maybe the best it's ever been.
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ontariodealer
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August 18th, 2013 at 6:03:25 PM permalink
funny you mention that...we lived on our bikes, went all over the city but never used them to get to school either.
get second you pig
ontariodealer
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August 18th, 2013 at 6:05:19 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You joke, but in the early 60's we had to walk a
quarter mile to the school bus stop and some kids
had to walk a mile. Now the bus stops at every
damn driveway and half the time mommy is
waiting so their little fat asses don't get lost from
the road to the house. My parents didn't know where
we were half the time, let alone worry about it.




so true.
get second you pig
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August 18th, 2013 at 7:34:35 PM permalink
My daughter lives walks about 5 minutes to her bus stop every day and boards a bus which takes about 1/2 hour to get her to and from school.

And we live close to the community where two high school students (one a former student of my daughter's high school) were kidnapped, tortured and killed. Mind you that was 15 years ago. I'd say there is a lot more in perversion out there but kids are far more educated as to what to do.
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September 8th, 2013 at 9:52:03 AM permalink
Remember when today began what was known as "Premier Week" and all the 3 networks had all new shows? TV Guide would have a big section, as did your local paper. People actually would stay home to watch?

And the networks would be "themed" with a slogan like, "We're Something to See!" to sell it all.

One thing I never got, in the early-1980s they gave extra push to shows, calling them "Hit New Series!" before one episode even aired! I remember one show they did it for was "Best of the West" and it was such a "hit" it lasted about half a season IIRC.
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EvenBob
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September 8th, 2013 at 1:27:49 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman



One thing I never got, in the early-1980s they gave extra push to shows, calling them "Hit New Series!" before one episode even aired!.



They still do that on the cable networks. A new reality
show is a 'hit' before it even airs. People are easily duped
or their wouldn't even be these stupid scripted 'reality'
shows in the first place.
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September 8th, 2013 at 1:55:13 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

They still do that on the cable networks. A new reality
show is a 'hit' before it even airs. People are easily duped
or their wouldn't even be these stupid scripted 'reality'
shows in the first place.



Depending on the reality show I have no real problem with the genre as long as you watch it as a smark. I love "Bar Rescue" because I like when they explain the science behind running a bar. I like "American Restoration" because I like seeing the things restored and the tips. I know that most scenes while not "scripted" are "improved" to make it look good. But what is the difference between that and "CSI?"

There are really only about 20 basic plots in most movies and shows.
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September 8th, 2013 at 5:38:17 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

There are really only about 20 basic plots in most movies and shows.


Unless you're talkin' about the old Twilight Zone, which used variations on only 3-4 basic plots for the entire series.
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