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non violent crime -
more than 40 million in the U.S. were victimized by identity theft in 2021
a different link estimates the total one year losses at $52 billion
$750 million was scammed based on Covid stimulus plans alone
back in the day - there was no such thing as identity theft - not that I can recall - or if it did exist - it was very rare
https://www.mcafee.com/learn/a-guide-to-identity-theft-statistics/#:~:text=More%20than%2040%20million%20U.S.,Fraud%20Study%3A%20The%20Virtual%20Battleground)
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Back in the day they just stole credit cards. Those of us old enough remember that when you bought by credit card they had that little thing that ran the card over the carbon paper which they deposited with their cash. Unless you spent $25-75 (it varied by store and over time) all they did was pull out this little paper book with the "hot" numbers of stolen cards. So you got a card and went place to place buying low level stuff that could easily be resold. It would take a couple weeks for the card to show up hot.
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In my years on this Earth, I've always been able to watch on TV any local pro sports team home or away games. The Red Sox and Bruins on WSBK and the Celtics on WBZ, and the Patriots on whatever network owned the rights to AFC games.
You must be relatively young. When I grew up we had four TV channels. In the 1980's the NBA finals were not shown live on any channel. They were re-broadcast at a later date/time from tape.
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In my years on this Earth, I've always been able to watch on TV any local pro sports team home or away games. The Red Sox and Bruins on WSBK and the Celtics on WBZ, and the Patriots on whatever network owned the rights to AFC games.
You must be relatively young. When I grew up we had four TV channels. In the 1980's the NBA finals were not shown live on any channel. They were re-broadcast at a later date/time from tape.
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In the late 60s and early 1970s, the NBA finals were shown on ABC. Then CBS bought the rights and ratings fell way off. I think it was only one or two seasons that the games were shown on tape delay. Then Bird and Magic came along and ratings exploded.
The Knicks televised about half their games, and all the playoff games.
CBS initially didn't want to pre-empt its Friday night line-up of Dallas and the Dukes of Hazard for basketball, as NBA ratings were horrible. The rumor was they never wanted the NBA contract and had put in a deliberately low bid, but ABC made no bid and CBS won by default.
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In my years on this Earth, I've always been able to watch on TV any local pro sports team home or away games. The Red Sox and Bruins on WSBK and the Celtics on WBZ, and the Patriots on whatever network owned the rights to AFC games.
You must be relatively young. When I grew up we had four TV channels. In the 1980's the NBA finals were not shown live on any channel. They were re-broadcast at a later date/time from tape.
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In the late 60s and early 1970s, the NBA finals were shown on ABC. Then CBS bought the rights and ratings fell way off. I think it was only one or two seasons that the games were shown on tape delay. Then Bird and Magic came along and ratings exploded.
The Knicks televised about half their games, and all the playoff games.
CBS initially didn't want to pre-empt its Friday night line-up of Dallas and the Dukes of Hazard for basketball, as NBA ratings were horrible. The rumor was they never wanted the NBA contract and had put in a deliberately low bid, but ABC made no bid and CBS won by default.
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I chalk it up to Boston being a sports town with teams that were and still are popular and have a winning tradition. Larry Bird certainly didn't hurt...
Sometimes it was for a contest, but usually they just for some reason wanted to say who they listened to.
𝑩𝑶𝒀 𝒀𝑶𝑼 𝑰𝑵 𝑨 𝑯𝑬𝑨𝑷 𝑶𝑭 𝑻𝑹𝑶𝑼𝑩𝑳𝑬
" Careful boy - I'll book you for sassin' a Law Officer"
1970 Dodge Challenger commercial
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I look at the files at work and all the complete names and think back to when you had to call them things like mayprft.xls for your P&L for May.
Quote: AZDuffmanRemember when you only got 7 characters to name your computer files? 7, that was it. You had to find some way to name it descriptive in those 7.
I look at the files at work and all the complete names and think back to when you had to call them things like mayprft.xls for your P&L for May.
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The first email account I had was limited to 5 characters. Generally the naming convention used was the first letter of your first name followed by the first four characters of your last name.
Quote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanRemember when you only got 7 characters to name your computer files? 7, that was it. You had to find some way to name it descriptive in those 7.
I look at the files at work and all the complete names and think back to when you had to call them things like mayprft.xls for your P&L for May.
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The first email account I had was limited to 5 characters. Generally the naming convention used was the first letter of your first name followed by the first four characters of your last name.
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I'm trying to remember my first email address. I think it was a Prodigy account, something like zxp??? is all I remember. Also an AOL account but don't remember what it was. Also had a free Juno account later on, and a ISP Txdirect.com Also, an account at Yes mail. Yahoo mail, still have that. Hotmail since about 2002, or 2006. Google, I almost never use. And a mail account USA.com I believe I have an email account at Cox cable, but never use that.
Sheesh, I may still be forgetting some.
Quote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanRemember when you only got 7 characters to name your computer files? 7, that was it. You had to find some way to name it descriptive in those 7.
I look at the files at work and all the complete names and think back to when you had to call them things like mayprft.xls for your P&L for May.
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The first email account I had was limited to 5 characters. Generally the naming convention used was the first letter of your first name followed by the first four characters of your last name.
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What most people will never know is that pre-1994 or so you didn't just type in the email like you did today. You could need a "path" from one network to another. I went to a university that got its "feed" from another university. So you had to do something like "user1@university1!university2" for it to find its way. I don't remember a bunch of it as they got a better connection the semester after I got email. The other thing was they only transferred info every 15 minutes! So I could send you an email but it does not move for 15 minutes. Then you reply and it could be 15 minutes for the next transfer!
But back then that was so amazing.
Quote: rxwineQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanRemember when you only got 7 characters to name your computer files? 7, that was it. You had to find some way to name it descriptive in those 7.
I look at the files at work and all the complete names and think back to when you had to call them things like mayprft.xls for your P&L for May.
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The first email account I had was limited to 5 characters. Generally the naming convention used was the first letter of your first name followed by the first four characters of your last name.
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I'm trying to remember my first email address. I think it was a Prodigy account, something like zxp??? is all I remember. Also an AOL account but don't remember what it was. Also had a free Juno account later on, and a ISP Txdirect.com Also, an account at Yes mail. Yahoo mail, still have that. Hotmail since about 2002, or 2006. Google, I almost never use. And a mail account USA.com I believe I have an email account at Cox cable, but never use that.
Sheesh, I may still be forgetting some.
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I still have my AOL account and use that email for junk mail when a site requires an email address. I wonder how I can see when I created that account. I would guess it was in the 1990's but I really don't have any idea.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanRemember when you only got 7 characters to name your computer files? 7, that was it. You had to find some way to name it descriptive in those 7.
I look at the files at work and all the complete names and think back to when you had to call them things like mayprft.xls for your P&L for May.
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The first email account I had was limited to 5 characters. Generally the naming convention used was the first letter of your first name followed by the first four characters of your last name.
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What most people will never know is that pre-1994 or so you didn't just type in the email like you did today. You could need a "path" from one network to another. I went to a university that got its "feed" from another university. So you had to do something like "user1@university1!university2" for it to find its way. I don't remember a bunch of it as they got a better connection the semester after I got email. The other thing was they only transferred info every 15 minutes! So I could send you an email but it does not move for 15 minutes. Then you reply and it could be 15 minutes for the next transfer!
But back then that was so amazing.
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I was just thinking about bang-paths. This would have been before the ubiquity of desktop email clients, when you still needed to use either a real terminal or a software terminal emulator to connect to a "mainframe" (probably actually a mini, like a VAX).
It was uniquely satisfying to enable hop-traces and stay online to watch the message as it progressed through the chain. (I believe we were regularly using about a 12 hop path with a somewhat unpredictable transoceanic cable in the middle, and if there was a failure, we wanted to know in case printing and faxing was needed to get the message through.)
Quote: DieterQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanRemember when you only got 7 characters to name your computer files? 7, that was it. You had to find some way to name it descriptive in those 7.
I look at the files at work and all the complete names and think back to when you had to call them things like mayprft.xls for your P&L for May.
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The first email account I had was limited to 5 characters. Generally the naming convention used was the first letter of your first name followed by the first four characters of your last name.
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What most people will never know is that pre-1994 or so you didn't just type in the email like you did today. You could need a "path" from one network to another. I went to a university that got its "feed" from another university. So you had to do something like "user1@university1!university2" for it to find its way. I don't remember a bunch of it as they got a better connection the semester after I got email. The other thing was they only transferred info every 15 minutes! So I could send you an email but it does not move for 15 minutes. Then you reply and it could be 15 minutes for the next transfer!
But back then that was so amazing.
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I was just thinking about bang-paths. This would have been before the ubiquity of desktop email clients, when you still needed to use either a real terminal or a software terminal emulator to connect to a "mainframe" (probably actually a mini, like a VAX).
It was uniquely satisfying to enable hop-traces and stay online to watch the message as it progressed through the chain. (I believe we were regularly using about a 12 hop path with a somewhat unpredictable transoceanic cable in the middle, and if there was a failure, we wanted to know in case printing and faxing was needed to get the message through.)
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Here is another story on these "hops." In the Gulf War buildup people were really patriotic. Someone thought about sending emails to soldiers there to relieve boredom of war prep. It was really rigged together hoping I forget how many times. But it was so rigged together that the soldiers could not reply except to send you a letter! That's right, could not just hit "reply."
I estimate about 10% of the USA population even knew what email was then with most of the letters coming from universities and the few companies using email back then, mostly tech places. I could not send one as we did not have the capacity to get it to that network.
The internet even now is made out to be more complex than the basics. I explained how it started on here once and a couple people said nobody ever made it that easy to understand.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanRemember when you only got 7 characters to name your computer files? 7, that was it. You had to find some way to name it descriptive in those 7.
I look at the files at work and all the complete names and think back to when you had to call them things like mayprft.xls for your P&L for May.
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The first email account I had was limited to 5 characters. Generally the naming convention used was the first letter of your first name followed by the first four characters of your last name.
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What most people will never know is that pre-1994 or so you didn't just type in the email like you did today. You could need a "path" from one network to another. I went to a university that got its "feed" from another university. So you had to do something like "user1@university1!university2" for it to find its way. I don't remember a bunch of it as they got a better connection the semester after I got email. The other thing was they only transferred info every 15 minutes! So I could send you an email but it does not move for 15 minutes. Then you reply and it could be 15 minutes for the next transfer!
But back then that was so amazing.
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I was just thinking about bang-paths. This would have been before the ubiquity of desktop email clients, when you still needed to use either a real terminal or a software terminal emulator to connect to a "mainframe" (probably actually a mini, like a VAX).
It was uniquely satisfying to enable hop-traces and stay online to watch the message as it progressed through the chain. (I believe we were regularly using about a 12 hop path with a somewhat unpredictable transoceanic cable in the middle, and if there was a failure, we wanted to know in case printing and faxing was needed to get the message through.)
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Here is another story on these "hops." In the Gulf War buildup people were really patriotic. Someone thought about sending emails to soldiers there to relieve boredom of war prep. It was really rigged together hoping I forget how many times. But it was so rigged together that the soldiers could not reply except to send you a letter! That's right, could not just hit "reply."
I estimate about 10% of the USA population even knew what email was then with most of the letters coming from universities and the few companies using email back then, mostly tech places. I could not send one as we did not have the capacity to get it to that network.
The internet even now is made out to be more complex than the basics. I explained how it started on here once and a couple people said nobody ever made it that easy to understand.
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In fairness, UUCP was pretty easy to understand in comparison to some of the schemes now in place.
It's probably easier to fully explain Tor than all the parts of a modern distributed loadbalancing CDN web system.
Ah, those bygone days of no tents, feces or needles on downtown sidewalks.
No begging in public: that really frosts my cookies: begging in this rich land of ours.
Quote: MrVRemember when there was no visible homeless problem?
Ah, those bygone days of no tents, feces or needles on downtown sidewalks.
No begging in public: that really frosts my cookies: begging in this rich land of ours.
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My real life current analogy is simple. I have neighbor who has a cat. But she also leaves food out for strays. Now we have a stray cat problem.
Disorganized random charity is a blight on everyone. Helps temporary, but really creates problems with no end goal. As they say about war, what's the exit strategy? There isn't any. That's when it's a problem.
Sounds like my wife's Grandmother, except her leaving the food out not only caused a stray cat problem for the neighborhood, it also created a stray bear problem!Quote: rxwineMy real life current analogy is simple. I have neighbor who has a cat. But she also leaves food out for strays. Now we have a stray cat problem.
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My real life current analogy is simple. I have neighbor who has a cat. But she also leaves food out for strays. Now we have a stray cat problem.
What kind of real problems do stray cats cause? I would love to have 50 or 100 cats roaming around my neighborhood.
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My real life current analogy is simple. I have neighbor who has a cat. But she also leaves food out for strays. Now we have a stray cat problem.
What kind of real problems do stray cats cause? I would love to have 50 or 100 cats roaming around my neighborhood.
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They kill birds and rabbits. They get into trash cans. They are a problem when they are around.
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My real life current analogy is simple. I have neighbor who has a cat. But she also leaves food out for strays. Now we have a stray cat problem.
What kind of real problems do stray cats cause? I would love to have 50 or 100 cats roaming around my neighborhood.
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You’re too far away for me to round them up and dump them in your neighborhood. She’s in her 80’s doesn’t consistently feed them, so they run around, probably kill birds, get run over, have public sexy time, and probably producing litters at some point. I think they’re eating the lizards which I depend on for decreasing bug population.
Granted I’d still prefer them to random humans outside.
Quote: JoemanSounds like my wife's Grandmother, except her leaving the food out not only caused a stray cat problem for the neighborhood, it also created a stray bear problem!Quote: rxwineMy real life current analogy is simple. I have neighbor who has a cat. But she also leaves food out for strays. Now we have a stray cat problem.
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It sounds like Grandma is creating opportunities.
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My real life current analogy is simple. I have neighbor who has a cat. But she also leaves food out for strays. Now we have a stray cat problem.
What kind of real problems do stray cats cause? I would love to have 50 or 100 cats roaming around my neighborhood.
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Absolutely. Nothing enhances a nice sunset like a yard full of cat piss. Who doesn't love to listen to the melodic sounds of two cats making love?
Puffing away on a bus, a train, a plane, a store...but never church.
Quote: MrVRemember when smoking in public places was both permitted and common?
Puffing away on a bus, a train, a plane, a store...but never church.
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It's really shocking how quickly society was able to turn against smokers. I remember when NYC got serious about banning smoking in bars and everyone expected economic disaster, including myself.
My HS had an unofficial smoking bathroom that teachers ignored. Now, having a cigarette or vape pen on you gets a lengthy suspension.
Quote: billryanQuote: MrVRemember when smoking in public places was both permitted and common?
Puffing away on a bus, a train, a plane, a store...but never church.
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It's really shocking how quickly society was able to turn against smokers. I remember when NYC got serious about banning smoking in bars and everyone expected economic disaster, including myself.
My HS had an unofficial smoking bathroom that teachers ignored. Now, having a cigarette or vape pen on you gets a lengthy suspension.
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The initial anti-smoking campaigns have actually been going on for a long time. It just took a long time to finally go as far as it has. They’ve been fighting the tobacco companies for a long time. It went in steps such as getting cigarette ads off tv., adding warning labels to each pack. I have a recording of my dad on the radio who was in a public health position in the 70s on a radio show a week after a tobacco promoter had been on the show attacking the health warnings against tobacco use.
Quote: rxwineQuote: billryanQuote: MrVRemember when smoking in public places was both permitted and common?
Puffing away on a bus, a train, a plane, a store...but never church.
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It's really shocking how quickly society was able to turn against smokers. I remember when NYC got serious about banning smoking in bars and everyone expected economic disaster, including myself.
My HS had an unofficial smoking bathroom that teachers ignored. Now, having a cigarette or vape pen on you gets a lengthy suspension.
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The initial anti-smoking campaigns have actually been going on for a long time. It just took a long time to finally go as far as it has. They’ve been fighting the tobacco companies for a long time. It went in steps such as getting cigarette ads off tv., adding warning labels to each pack. I have a recording of my dad on the radio who was in a public health position in the 70s on a radio show a week after a tobacco promoter had been on the show attacking the health warnings against tobacco use.
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Why does everyone assume that living longer is a good thing? I am all for legalizing assisted suicide for any adult that wants it. I think everyone should be issued an L-pill and can choose to use it when they want.
Weren’t you around smokers when they were coughing up flem? Kind of a nasty way to finish up life. Also rolling around with portable oxygen. You might just go quietly and fall asleep with cigarette in your hand and burn yourself and your house into non-existence.
A quarter for a pack of Marlboro in the on campus machine.
I quit when it got to $2.50 / pack: "It ain't worth it."
Quote: rxwineEven if you live longer you can always step in front of a bus anytime you choose and end it.
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Very cruel to the other parties involved.
Quote: DieterQuote: rxwineEven if you live longer you can always step in front of a bus anytime you choose and end it.
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Very cruel to the other parties involved.
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Hopefully it has changed, but in NY, train operators used to get 48 hours off after someone committed suicide in front of their train.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/sep/09/suicide-still-treated-as-a-in-at-least-20-countries-report-finds
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My real life current analogy is simple. I have neighbor who has a cat. But she also leaves food out for strays. Now we have a stray cat problem.
What kind of real problems do stray cats cause? I would love to have 50 or 100 cats roaming around my neighborhood.
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Move to Kotor, Montenegro.
Doctors made house calls
always with that little black bag
inside was a stethoscope, a blood pressure monitor, a tongue depressor, and a flashlight to look down your throat
and maybe some cold medicine and aspirins
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Johnny Carson show - 1978 - drum battle between Johnny's band's drummer Ed Shaughnessy and Buddy Rich
Ed is great but Buddy is The King of the World - he's insane - sticks so fast in some parts of the vid you can't even see them
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Quote: MrVRemember when you could use the word "gay" in normal conversation, e.g. "they had a gay old time" and it was not the opening salvo in today's culture wars?
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Mr. Burns once asked Smithers if he was doing something gay for the weekend. We used to ask each other that as a joke at the office. Today we would probably get fired.
Quote: MrVRemember when you could use the word "gay" in normal conversation, e.g. "they had a gay old time" and it was not the opening salvo in today's culture wars?
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How often have you said someone had a gay old time? I see it used in old movies and television and wonder if the writers were having a "gay old time " with their audience
Quote: MrVRemember when you could use the word "gay" in normal conversation, e.g. "they had a gay old time" and it was not the opening salvo in today's culture wars?
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pretty interesting
the link has the history of the word "gay"
other than meaning happy, in the 1600s it came to mean a loose woman or man and a "gay house" meant a house of prostitution
in 1951 it appeared in the Oxford English Dictionary as slang for homosexual
the writer of the link speculates it was used in that context as much as 30 years earlier than that
now, probably nobody uses the word to mean happy, but probably many did until some time in the 60s
in 1961 the movie West Side Story - Maria sings the song " I feel pretty" the lyrics - "I feel pretty and witty and gay."
but if you look up the lyrics to that song "gay" has been edited out - and it shows the lyrics to be "I feel pretty and witty and bright"
https://www.gayly.com/history-word-%E2%80%9Cgay%E2%80%9D
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6'7" Joe Fortenberry is credited with being the first man to dunk a basketball in a game which he did in the 1936 Summer Olympics
it was documented in the New York Times
he was high scorer in the Gold Medal Final Game of the Olympics scoring 8 points in a 19-8 victory over Canada
the pic is him barely getting up high enough to slam in while playing AAU basketball in 1939 - the premiere hoops league before the NBA
not exactly spectacular but still - way to go Joe - it must have been a shock to the other players on the court
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Bobby Lewis is a completely forgotten UNC hoops superstar - 27.4 p.p.g. his junior year - the once famous L&M boys - Bobby Lewis and Larry Miller
just 6'2" - Bobby could fly - very skinny - he prolly only weighed 165
he put on a dunking exhibition at Dematha basketball camp that I saw
he banged the ball with 2 hands on the right side of the backboard - and then he flew around to the left side and dunked it backwards with two hands
I've never seen anything like it - although I'm sure some others could do it
I was just a little kid when I saw it happen - I know my mouth dropped open and my eyes got real big
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rich full, tobacco flavor - "Winston tastes good like a cigarette should"
LSMFT - Lucky Strike means Fine Tobacco - so refreshing - IT'S TOASTED
Salem - Take a Puff - IT'S SPRINGTIME - it's country soft and country fresh - Salem gently air softens every puff
they made suckers out of so many - including me - I quit at age 36 - prolly wouldn't be here if I'd kept it up
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Circuit City - DIVX Sales Training Video (Circa 1998)
The DVD Player Everyone Hated - DIVX (Repairing an old DIVX Player with parts from another.)
YT Comments section abuzz about the old DIVX line.
"Nope. No DiVX discs can be played since some time around mid-2001. No matter what you do to the player."
"DIVX stopped operating as a company in 1999 and the modem disconnected 30 days later so all discs became unplayable.
People do say there is a fix to make them play but it requires modding your player."
'As a former user of the divx format I can assure you that the player did not dial out each time you played a new disk. It only dialed out once a month to charge your credit card for extra play periods. The initial play period was 48 hours. If you never played a new disk beyond that period then you were not ever charged any fee other than the original purchase price. $4.49 was the original price before they went on fire sale. I still have about 60 disks in this format."
"Many years later Youtube decided to do something similar with its movie 'Rent or Buy'. I think I've always bought the film, never rented a view."
Wiki DIVX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX
This format preceded Netflix's DVD mailing system, which just shut down very recently.
I bought a 26" Mitsubishi TV in 1993, just a month before closed captioning became mandatory. Because of the LA Riots, closed captioning became a rushed thing apparently. I could have paid $100 more for closed captioning, but I was already paying $650 and I had but one trip to the store to get a TV. It must have weighed near 60 pounds. It had S-Video & stereo inputs and outputs. The screen went bad 23 months into the 24 month warranty, so I had to get that fixed in a hurry, and if it was a month later, they would have charged me $550 for the new TV screen. I kept using the TV until I got a $650 42" HD TV in late 2009 when analogue TV was being phased out. Most TV's at the time were double the price, but mine had a 120 hz instead of a 60 hz picture. My 42" TV had the screen go bad just before the warranty expired and a repairman took it to his shop for a week or two and returned it in beautiful condition. The screen is bad again, and has been for years. This TV fits on my old TV cart that was recalled years ago as a tipping hazard. New TV's have the feet too wide apart and won't fit on the cart without buying a special stand instead. Then we've got the age of PS5's and 4K Roku and I've got to take second looks at TV technology constantly to keep up with what I want to buy next, but it looks like it will be a 43" TV anyway. I did notice 4K TV's were selling fast at Best Buy in 2015, but my cable company has yet to offer 4K channels.
4 REASONS WHY CIRCUIT CITY KILLED THEMSELVES
There weren't dozens of units in the stockroom; if someone wanted to take that heavy 32" CRT home, I'd have to lift it down off the shelf and box it up while not dropping it. (The customer trying to step in and "help" lift usually just disturbed the somewhat precarious balance, undesirable when dealing with 90 pounds of glass.)
I don't recall having to lift Trinitrons at the store, thankfully. Those pigs were heavy. I know that to get the great looking geometry (cylindrical instead of quasi-spherical), there was a lot of extra glass involved.
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I still have my AOL account and use that email for junk mail when a site requires an email address. I wonder how I can see when I created that account. I would guess it was in the 1990's but I really don't have any idea.
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Those millions of AOL software CDs that were given away for years could be used to make DIY Solar Panels. Who knew.
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I still have my AOL account and use that email for junk mail when a site requires an email address. I wonder how I can see when I created that account. I would guess it was in the 1990's but I really don't have any idea.
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Those millions of AOL software CDs that were given away for years could be used to make DIY Solar Panels. Who knew.
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I still have a few for mug coasters.