Remember When
Quote: rxwineThey used to sell big open wooden boxes of live "peeps" otherwise known as chicks. All that peeping. They may still do that in smaller country towns during Easter.
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A number of stores do. Many local rural feed & seed dealers, Tractor Supply, Rural King... etc. I see the signs out front, "We have chicks".
As far as I know, Easter just often happens to coincide with when the agriculturists find it useful to get young chicks for the upcoming growing season. (The large commercial operations raise new flocks year round, in spite of the seasons.)
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I still can't convince Ashly that the grandparents don't actually want pictures of the kids on the bunny's lap. I'm choosing my battles.
You are a wise man. A man is not allowed to imply anything negative about the grandkids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9mWWE624A
It gave a pretty thorough analysis! The summary: It's the sound of optimism as interior design — a world where every surface is clean, every problem is manageable, and the vibraphone tells you everything is going to be fine.
Here's an example song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xELDqIyrtNA&list=PLf5ENiU6WPt0aX31n7cBj-Lu_L5XXcj8b
Quote: EvenBobAI is getting pretty amazing. A Gen Z person would see nothing in this video. I recognize 90% of them. If AI is this good now, in five years it will be knocking your socks off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9mWWE624A
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Now that IS scary. I’d love to show that to my parents. If they were alive.
Quote: smoothgrhI just asked A.I.: What’s the deal with the staccato-style notes associated with 1950s supermarket music or some other kid of linoleum-based imagery?
It gave a pretty thorough analysis! The summary: It's the sound of optimism as interior design — a world where every surface is clean, every problem is manageable, and the vibraphone tells you everything is going to be fine.
Here's an example song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xELDqIyrtNA&list=PLf5ENiU6WPt0aX31n7cBj-Lu_L5XXcj8b
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I heard that exact type of music constantly in TV commercials in the late 1950s and very early 1960s. Things like car commercials and large appliance commercials, like refrigerators, washers, and dryers. It makes you feel like by spending the big money on these things, your life will be very happy. You envy people who had these things, because their life must be truly glorious.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: smoothgrhI just asked A.I.: What’s the deal with the staccato-style notes associated with 1950s supermarket music or some other kid of linoleum-based imagery?
It gave a pretty thorough analysis! The summary: It's the sound of optimism as interior design — a world where every surface is clean, every problem is manageable, and the vibraphone tells you everything is going to be fine.
Here's an example song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xELDqIyrtNA&list=PLf5ENiU6WPt0aX31n7cBj-Lu_L5XXcj8b
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I heard that exact type of music constantly in TV commercials in the late 1950s and very early 1960s. Things like car commercials and large appliance commercials, like refrigerators, washers, and dryers. It makes you feel like by spending the big money on these things, your life will be very happy. You envy people who had these things, because their life must be truly glorious.
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It's also cheap and easy to write and record. So you have half a dozen guys in a studio with their instruments, making tapes of stuff like that and an ad agency can buy the tape and its rights and take whatever part of it and do a voiceover. It can't drown out or distract from the message, like something heavily orchestrated or dramatic would. It reminds me of the way a comedian or beat poet might have a bass accompanist, gently plucking, to give him some rhythm to his delivery, maybe he'll break into song or a little Sprechstimme as well.
Now here's one- remember the KLM Airline commercial and that delightful tune they played? Did you know that was really a song, with a name? It was actually the theme music from a Dutch detective show. Here it is!
Quote: EvenBobAI is getting pretty amazing. A Gen Z person would see nothing in this video. I recognize 90% of them. If AI is this good now, in five years it will be knocking your socks off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9mWWE624A
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Thank you so much for posting this. A bit before my time but I loved this! A great idea and well executed.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: EvenBobQuote: smoothgrhI just asked A.I.: What’s the deal with the staccato-style notes associated with 1950s supermarket music or some other kid of linoleum-based imagery?
It gave a pretty thorough analysis! The summary: It's the sound of optimism as interior design — a world where every surface is clean, every problem is manageable, and the vibraphone tells you everything is going to be fine.
Here's an example song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xELDqIyrtNA&list=PLf5ENiU6WPt0aX31n7cBj-Lu_L5XXcj8b
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I heard that exact type of music constantly in TV commercials in the late 1950s and very early 1960s. Things like car commercials and large appliance commercials, like refrigerators, washers, and dryers. It makes you feel like by spending the big money on these things, your life will be very happy. You envy people who had these things, because their life must be truly glorious.
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It's also cheap and easy to write and record. So you have half a dozen guys in a studio with their instruments, making tapes of stuff like that and an ad agency can buy the tape and its rights and take whatever part of it and do a voiceover. It can't drown out or distract from the message, like something heavily orchestrated or dramatic would. It reminds me of the way a comedian or beat poet might have a bass accompanist, gently plucking, to give him some rhythm to his delivery, maybe he'll break into song or a little Sprechstimme as well.
Now here's one- remember the KLM Airline commercial and that delightful tune they played? Did you know that was really a song, with a name? It was actually the theme music from a Dutch detective show. Here it is!
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Sounds like a lot of the Budweiser commercials we heard in the 70s and 80s featuring the Clydesdales.
Quote: gordonm888Quote: EvenBobAI is getting pretty amazing. A Gen Z person would see nothing in this video. I recognize 90% of them. If AI is this good now, in five years it will be knocking your socks off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9mWWE624A
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Thank you so much for posting this. A bit before my time but I loved this! A great idea and well executed.
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It is so lifelike and real. Song is really good too, and it was written by the creator of the video. You have to watch it several times to spot everybody that's in this. No Superman, though, which was my favorite show in the 50s. And no Tonto with the Lone Ranger. Pretty realistic James Dean getting into the car that killed him. Tuesday Weld is so sexy. We all had such a crush on her. Marilyn shows up three times, but come on. She was the 1950s.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: gordonm888Quote: EvenBobAI is getting pretty amazing. A Gen Z person would see nothing in this video. I recognize 90% of them. If AI is this good now, in five years it will be knocking your socks off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9mWWE624A
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Thank you so much for posting this. A bit before my time but I loved this! A great idea and well executed.
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It is so lifelike and real. Song is really good too, and it was written by the creator of the video. You have to watch it several times to spot everybody that's in this. No Superman, though, which was my favorite show in the 50s. And no Tonto with the Lone Ranger. Pretty realistic James Dean getting into the car that killed him. Tuesday Weld is so sexy. We all had such a crush on her. Marilyn shows up three times, but come on. She was the 1950s.
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According to my independent research agency (=me) music was made in SUNO. Video was made with possible 3 different Ai platforms. Of course, someone has to know at least a little about what they are doing. Making an extended video from prompts isn't completely without frustrations if you want total coherence throughout,
It's getting easier and easier though. "Artistic" achievement still isn't a given. Still the X factor. Thousands of Ai video online and still produce a lot no one will ever care much about.
Quote: EvenBobAnd no Tonto with the Lone Ranger. Pretty realistic James Dean getting into the car that killed him. Tuesday Weld is so sexy. We all had such a crush on her. Marilyn shows up three times, but come on. She was the 1950s.
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I thought I saw Tonto in there early in the video on the left side of the screen
Quote: gordonm888Quote: EvenBobAnd no Tonto with the Lone Ranger. Pretty realistic James Dean getting into the car that killed him. Tuesday Weld is so sexy. We all had such a crush on her. Marilyn shows up three times, but come on. She was the 1950s.
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I thought I saw Tonto in there early in the video on the left side of the screen
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I read your statement about three times and could not understand how you are seeing Toronto in that video. I guess I may need a new eyeglass prescription.
Quote: gordonm888Quote: EvenBobAnd no Tonto with the Lone Ranger. Pretty realistic James Dean getting into the car that killed him. Tuesday Weld is so sexy. We all had such a crush on her. Marilyn shows up three times, but come on. She was the 1950s.
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I thought I saw Tonto in there early in the video on the left side of the screen
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There's a guy with a black mask eating with an Indian, but it's not Jay Silverheels. The face is wrong. The headband is wrong. The clothes are wrong. Jay Silverheels did not have long black hair in braids. He didn't have long hair at all. And the guy in the mask is not Clayton Moore. He is in the video but he's not with Jay Silverheels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU
Quote: EvenBobTalk about how times have changed. This song was number one on Billboard's Top 100. It received a Grammy for Best Song of the Year in 1988. Imagine the reaction if this song was released today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU
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I don't think anyone would object to the song, but the way music is produced and sold is all different now and it is unlikely to be a hit. Nothing really is, anymore. There will never be another "Thriller" or "Take On Me."
Laurie Johnson - Gala Performance (by EarpJohn)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55RPFrdnMfU&list=PLf5ENiU6WPt0aX31n7cBj-Lu_L5XXcj8b&index=23
Embedding is iffy today.
Laurie Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Johnson
AI: 16 rpm (specifically 16+2/3 rpm) records are a rarely used vinyl format designed for long-duration, low-fidelity audio, primarily spoken-word "talking books" for the blind, educational lectures, and 1960s department store background music. These records offer double the playtime of a 33+1/3 RPM LP, often holding 40-60 minutes per side.
RT: The stylus used for archiving these recordings is a .7mil not a 1mil so the records are not harmed during playback even though the grooves of these records are .5mil in diameter .7 should be an acceptable size for playback so that all of the frequencies of the recordings will be picked up during playback.
RT: Some places used big reels of tape. I'm not sure what size reels, but it was thin tape, recorded at 15/16 ips (1/2 the speed of a cassette) and used 4 mono tracks. So, the tape would play 6 hours in one direction, then reverse and select another track, then reverse again, etc., until it had played all 4 tracks. One reel of tape supplied 24 hours of music.
Retro Seeburg 1000 Elevator Music Volume 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-i2aYRnLU&list=PLf5ENiU6WPt0aX31n7cBj-Lu_L5XXcj8b&index=28
Seeburg 1000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeburg_1000
The Seeburg 1000 Background Music System is a phonograph designed and built by the Seeburg Corporation to play background music from special 16+2⁄3 RPM vinyl records in offices, restaurants, retail businesses, factories and similar locations. Seeburg provided a service similar to that of Muzak.
The BMS 1000 was so called because it played both sides of 25 records, each side containing 20 songs (hence 1,000 songs). The phonographs used the old Pickering "Red-head" stereo cartridge, introduced on Seeburg jukeboxes in late 1958 for the 1959 model year. Although the mono Seeburg jukeboxes used 1 mil styluses and the stereo Seeburgs used .7 mil styluses, the background-music systems used a .5 mil stylus, but played the special mono records. The BMS phonographs were non-selectable and only played these proprietary formatted 9" records with 2" center holes - sequentially, and at 16+2⁄3rpm.
Unusual types of gramophone records
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unusual_types_of_gramophone_records
Early American shellac records were all 7-inch until 1901, when 10-inch records were introduced. 12-inch records joined them in 1903.
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I had a kiddie turntable I got when I was 5 and I'd play mostly 45's and a very few 78's on it. It could play albums but those were played on a better turntable except for a few albums I picked up before the late '70's when I started actually purchasing albums. It also had a 16 & 2/3rds speed on it, and a neutral speed so I could just spin the records by hand.. I don't believe it made it out of the house move awhile back. My dad may have had some 16 RPM records, so he borrowed it a bit in later years. The house turntable could do 33, 45, & 78 RPM records but a different stylus was needed for 78's. It was a belt drive turntable from around 1962.
Somebody put a cue on the turntable they found. That was what this turntable was missing all along, but cues didn't really exist back then. My Pioneer turntable from 1979 had a cue. It sounds like he had a problem with the ground wire when he changed tracks. Turntables needed to be grounded to the amp, whereas new ones can just use a USB port to your computer, or RCA plugs to your amp's Aux-IN. I can't tell if the one in the video is the same one we had, it looks similar enough even with the blemishes, but I didn't check for numbers underneath the metal plate. I'm sure it's worth $500 or more.
Empire 398 Turntable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JakjghKwDws
Same guy had the same turntables as me.
Pioneer PL-518 Turntable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Otszs3sSHI
The feet fell off my turntable long ago and it was perched on an old shopping gift box. This guy found after-market feet for it. I got rid of the turntable a few years ago. It had been sitting in outdoor storage and I was buying a new turntable at the time and retiring another newer one where the anti-skip had completely failed and kept skipping.
AI: Yes, a specialized, wider stylus (typically 3.0 - 4.0 mil) is required to play 78 RPM records, as standard LP styli (0.7 mil or smaller) are too narrow, causing them to sit too deep in the wider groove. Using the wrong stylus results in high noise, thin sound, and damage to the record.
My kiddie record player had a way to rotate the stylus so I could play 78's. There were two styli on the end tone arm, just have to flip a handle at the end of the tonearm 180 degrees upside down before switching speeds to or from 78 RPM.
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AI: 16 rpm (specifically 16+2/3 rpm) records are a rarely used vinyl format designed for long-duration, low-fidelity audio, primarily spoken-word "talking books" for the blind, educational lectures, and 1960s department store background music. These records offer double the playtime of a 33+1/3 RPM LP, often holding 40-60 minutes per side.
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I believe I only encountered two turntables with a 16 2/3 speed provision. One was a very high end unit; the other was a mid-tier unit in a big console stereo. The mid-tier had the internal mechanism (extra ratios on the pulleys), but the external selector only ranged from 33 1/3 to 78.
61 in '61
in that season Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris of the Yankees dueled each other to break Babe Ruth's home record of 60
much of the nation followed it closely
Mantle was the people's favorite but it was Maris who got it done
Mantle ended up with 54
here it is - the 61st homer of Roger Maris:
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61 in '61
in that season Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris of the Yankees dueled each other to break Babe Ruth's home record of 60
much of the nation followed it closely
Mantle was the people's favorite but it was Maris who got it done
Mantle ended up with 54
here it is - the 61st homer of Roger Maris:
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I was 12 years old, and we watched all of that. Mantle and Maris were household names. It was an unbelievably big deal. I can't imagine anybody even caring about it today. Baseball was still America's pastime. And Babe Ruth, who was long gone, was still a very big deal. People remember taking time off from work if Babe Ruth was playing in your city. He was bigger than any movie star.
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AI: 16 rpm (specifically 16+2/3 rpm) records are a rarely used vinyl format designed for long-duration, low-fidelity audio, primarily spoken-word "talking books" for the blind, educational lectures, and 1960s department store background music. These records offer double the playtime of a 33+1/3 RPM LP, often holding 40-60 minutes per side.
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I believe I only encountered two turntables with a 16 2/3 speed provision. One was a very high end unit; the other was a mid-tier unit in a big console stereo. The mid-tier had the internal mechanism (extra ratios on the pulleys), but the external selector only ranged from 33 1/3 to 78.
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Phonographs geared towards kids often came with 16 speeds, as many children's talking records were recorded at that speed.
My sister had an album with the last song on one side, recorded in 78. You had to change speeds on the turntable while the album was playing. I think it was a Moby Grape album. It even had scratchy sound effects, so you thought it was an old record. Skip Spence of MG was doing a lot of acid at the time and eventually pulled a Sid Barrett.
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AI: 16 rpm (specifically 16+2/3 rpm) records are a rarely used vinyl format designed for long-duration, low-fidelity audio, primarily spoken-word "talking books" for the blind, educational lectures, and 1960s department store background music. These records offer double the playtime of a 33+1/3 RPM LP, often holding 40-60 minutes per side.
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I believe I only encountered two turntables with a 16 2/3 speed provision. One was a very high end unit; the other was a mid-tier unit in a big console stereo. The mid-tier had the internal mechanism (extra ratios on the pulleys), but the external selector only ranged from 33 1/3 to 78.
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Phonographs geared towards kids often came with 16 speeds, as many children's talking records were recorded at that speed.
My sister had an album with the last song on one side, recorded in 78. You had to change speeds on the turntable while the album was playing. I think it was a Moby Grape album. It even had scratchy sound effects, so you thought it was an old record. Skip Spencer of MG was doing a lot of acid at the time and eventually pulled a Sid Barrett.
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You know, that makes me wonder if the old Califone suitcases in schools had a 16. They might have. I wasn't in A/V club, so they didn't let me touch them.
Most of the time, I think we just had them for square dance music in PE.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: gordonm888Quote: EvenBobAnd no Tonto with the Lone Ranger. Pretty realistic James Dean getting into the car that killed him. Tuesday Weld is so sexy. We all had such a crush on her. Marilyn shows up three times, but come on. She was the 1950s.
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I thought I saw Tonto in there early in the video on the left side of the screen
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There's a guy with a black mask eating with an Indian, but it's not Jay Silverheels. The face is wrong. The headband is wrong. The clothes are wrong. Jay Silverheels did not have long black hair in braids. He didn't have long hair at all. And the guy in the mask is not Clayton Moore. He is in the video but he's not with Jay Silverheels.
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It may be wrong, but it's supposed to be them. The white horse is there too, do you see it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs0TeLJNFJw
The wow and flutter is off the charts with this old one. The motor needs help. I usually chuck it up to bad slip mats and prefer a rubber mat, but that's not the problem here. There is a 16 RPM speed and a neutral. A pair of portable external 10 watt speakers are on sale somewhere for $125. These are use and abuse gov't issued turntables not meant for consumer use.
