The difference between Vegas casinos and Indian casinos
June 14th, 2012 at 1:16:18 AM
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Comedian Gabriel Iglesias on why he likes Native American casinos over Vegas casinos.
Interesting perspective if Native American casinos actually look out for your welfare. Do they really?
Interesting perspective if Native American casinos actually look out for your welfare. Do they really?
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June 14th, 2012 at 1:47:25 AM
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NO, they don't. Not at all.
Now you think how people today refer to books as "the dead tree version" but seem to prefer the "real" ie, electronic "book". Its a matter of experience perhaps. The "Vegas Experience" is an event, the local Indian casino is thought of as if it were a dressed-up Dottys. Soon the experience of a local casino will outweigh the experience of a TSA Screener getting to second base on a trip to Vegas.
Then these dressed-up Dottys will suffice in practice while players will still bemoan the old days of real casinos.
Now you think how people today refer to books as "the dead tree version" but seem to prefer the "real" ie, electronic "book". Its a matter of experience perhaps. The "Vegas Experience" is an event, the local Indian casino is thought of as if it were a dressed-up Dottys. Soon the experience of a local casino will outweigh the experience of a TSA Screener getting to second base on a trip to Vegas.
Then these dressed-up Dottys will suffice in practice while players will still bemoan the old days of real casinos.
June 14th, 2012 at 8:02:00 AM
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I've been to N.A. casinos that absolutely beat the pants off of anything in Vegas. As usual, it's about the management team, not whose pockets the money is flowing to.
Nobody from the tribal council will come up and talk to you though; that's just for comedic effect.
Nobody from the tribal council will come up and talk to you though; that's just for comedic effect.
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June 14th, 2012 at 8:12:42 AM
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We stole their land, they want payback. I don't blame them. I wouldn't play any electronic game in an Indian casino, only card games where I can see all the cards before they are shuffled.
Their laws are different, and they make it clear you're not in America when you're at their casino.
Their laws are different, and they make it clear you're not in America when you're at their casino.
June 14th, 2012 at 8:17:00 AM
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June 14th, 2012 at 8:17:38 AM
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I don't think they look out for you any more or less than a Vegas casino. I am thinking though in Gabriel's case, they didn't want him to lose an epic amount of money, because they want him to come back to the joint to perform so they can make more money off of tickets and stuff like that. That being said, I have a soft spot for Indian Casinos, as I popped my casino cherry at St. Croix Casino at Turtle Lake. Funny story, I went there in the summer on 1997 when I was 18 and back then I could gamble there, so long as my parents were with me at the table, but I went back the following year and the law was changed to 21 under all circumstances.
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June 14th, 2012 at 11:41:41 AM
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The biggest difference is, most Vegas casinos are laid back
and most Indian joints are not. Indian casinos tend to sweat
the small stuff a lot more than Vegas does. Put a black chip
on red in Vegas and the pit guy might raise his head off his
desk when the dealer calls out 'black on the outside', he
might not.
Do it in a lot of Indian joints and you'll have a pit person
there in 5 sec, looking at the chip, looking at you, looking
at the chip, looking at you. Its almost like they're going
to whip out their Polaroid Swinger and snap a shot to put
up on the board.
Cocktail waitresses tend to be cuter in Indian joints. They
get all the local talent, its a good job for a young girl
who's probably in college and living with her parents.
Dealers tend to be fatter and uglier in Indian casinos, I
don't know why. The pit is friendlier in Indian joints because
they deal with a lot of locals. And in most Indian casinos
the drinks aren't free. Bummer.
and most Indian joints are not. Indian casinos tend to sweat
the small stuff a lot more than Vegas does. Put a black chip
on red in Vegas and the pit guy might raise his head off his
desk when the dealer calls out 'black on the outside', he
might not.
Do it in a lot of Indian joints and you'll have a pit person
there in 5 sec, looking at the chip, looking at you, looking
at the chip, looking at you. Its almost like they're going
to whip out their Polaroid Swinger and snap a shot to put
up on the board.
Cocktail waitresses tend to be cuter in Indian joints. They
get all the local talent, its a good job for a young girl
who's probably in college and living with her parents.
Dealers tend to be fatter and uglier in Indian casinos, I
don't know why. The pit is friendlier in Indian joints because
they deal with a lot of locals. And in most Indian casinos
the drinks aren't free. Bummer.
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June 14th, 2012 at 11:45:52 AM
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I for one am glad to see a voice of reason has returned to the forum. WELCOME BACK< BOB
June 14th, 2012 at 1:22:56 PM
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Quote: EvenBobCocktail waitresses tend to be cuter in Indian joints. They
get all the local talent, its a good job for a young girl
who's probably in college and living with her parents.
This has not been my experience, but I'm sure it varies widely by locale.
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June 15th, 2012 at 8:25:34 AM
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Quote: MichaelBluejayComedian Gabriel Iglesias on why he likes Native American casinos over Vegas casinos.
Interesting perspective if Native American casinos actually look out for your welfare. Do they really?
I don't know about that, but I doubt it. I don't play anything but poker there because the tribe regulates itself for the most part. The only one I go to on any regular basis is Winstar, which has a large well run poker room. Walking around the casino the atmosphere seems to be sad though. The exact opposite of what I experience in Vegas or even Shrevepport/Bossier City. And it seems they have an ante on every hand for their table games which seems ridiculous to me.
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June 15th, 2012 at 8:35:11 AM
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I only play poker at our Washington tribal casinos. Never had any issues, aside from high tournament rake.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:41:15 AM
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Interesting, I was listening to Ralphie May on Raw Dog Comedy this morning, and he said that he and his family are treated royally at Indian casinos: "I said, 'You do know I'm just a comedian, right?'" He says that it is much better than in Vegas. He feels much more appreciated.
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June 15th, 2012 at 12:09:34 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleWe stole their land, they want payback. I don't blame them. I wouldn't play any electronic game in an Indian casino, only card games where I can see all the cards before they are shuffled.
I'm not very impressed by the argument that my ancestors were cheated out of what was rightfully theirs. I don't know anyone whose ancestors weren't abused in some way or another.
June 16th, 2012 at 2:00:39 AM
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The two N.A. Casinos in CT didn't sweat, until the Asian Gangs tried to Rule the Poker Rooms. One closed 2002 (just reopened). Mohegan Sun sweats a little at the 21 tables, Teams were as of 2009 still darting in and out dropping purples while the guy at 3rd base rat-holes black chips. Rather comical actually. Foxwoods, I dunno, walked out for good in '99 when I saw Ocelot pelts for barter/sale during Schmetzun (sp?).
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
June 16th, 2012 at 3:10:03 AM
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Quote: 98Clubspelts for barter/sale during Schmetzun (sp?).
Another Jewish holiday, sounds like [g]
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June 16th, 2012 at 3:54:12 AM
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Do you see any of this activity at the mohegan sun nowadays?
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June 16th, 2012 at 4:29:21 AM
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Hey, folks... those "tribes" were the creation of lawyers who wanted to open a casino ... so I'm not too sure they should be clumped into "North American Indian Casinos". Some of those Californian tribes are controlled by a small number and malcontents are dis-enrolled from the tribe so as to deprive them of voting rights. Some tribes have been rich for decades, some have been dirt poor before bingo and blackjack. With such variation of ownership I guess there will be variation in the way they are run and in the overall "experience" of the customers.Quote: 98ClubsThe two N.A. Casinos in CT....
June 16th, 2012 at 11:34:55 AM
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Quote: pacomartinI'm not very impressed by the argument that my ancestors were cheated out of what was rightfully theirs. I don't know anyone whose ancestors weren't abused in some way or another.
That's exactly right. Besides, we don't visit punishment on people for the sins of their parents. There are some very clean, clear cut cases where returning the property would be correct but they are almost entirely limited to the world of hypotheticals.
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June 17th, 2012 at 12:39:17 AM
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ARRRRrrrrr. +1
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
June 17th, 2012 at 2:31:40 AM
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Indian tribes do not celebrate Columbus Day as a holiday.Quote: bigfoot66That's exactly right. Besides, we don't visit punishment on people for the sins of their parents.
Yet just about every tribe migrated from somewhere else and pushed out those who were there earlier. Even the non-warrior tribes that were largely hunters and fisherman started out as warriors suppressing someone else.
"Indian Casinos" is a convenient category but it encompasses a broad range of experiences. The one unifying factor is often a monopoly market for legal reasons.
