7outlineaway
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October 10th, 2011 at 9:24:44 AM permalink
I think I've figured this out.

The Tea Partiers say that instead of bailing out Wall Street, don't bail out anybody.

The Wall Street protestors, to the extent they have a coherent voice, say that instead of bailing out Wall Street, bail out everybody else *but* wall street. (Including themselves. Most especially themselves.)

IOW, they both, in fact, agree on the problem, but want different solutions.

Is that about right, in so many words?
boymimbo
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October 10th, 2011 at 9:51:56 AM permalink
The government shouldn't be handing out any more money. They should be focussing instead on conserving money and raising revenue to run in a deficit range that is at least sustainable.

I had no problems with the Tea Party protests (except that they were sponsored by Fox News -- "we report, you decide"), vs the Wall Street protestors. i'm waiting for AZ's reply.
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Nareed
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October 10th, 2011 at 12:12:18 PM permalink
Quote: 7outlineaway

The Tea Partiers say that instead of bailing out Wall Street, don't bail out anybody.

The Wall Street protestors, to the extent they have a coherent voice, say that instead of bailing out Wall Street, bail out everybody else *but* wall street. (Including themselves. Most especially themselves.)



Not exactly. The Tea party does oppose bailouts, but also high taxes and government meddling into every aspect of our lives.

The Wall St. Protesters want the government to support them and to meddle more in every aspect of our lives.

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IOW, they both, in fact, agree on the problem, but want different solutions.



Au contraire. One side thinks government's too big and should be pared down. The other thinks it's too small and should be put on steroids.

If I were particularly cruel, I would wish the Wall St. crowd were granted all their wishes.
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7outlineaway
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October 10th, 2011 at 1:02:18 PM permalink
That actually *is* what I'm saying, just from a different perspective.
EvenBob
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October 10th, 2011 at 2:05:27 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

except that they were sponsored by Fox News -



You have proof of that, or is this lumped into Fox
is responsible for everything the Libs don't like.
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fivespot
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October 10th, 2011 at 10:09:45 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You have proof of that, or is this lumped into Fox
is responsible for everything the Libs don't like.


If you somehow didn't see Fox News Channel's aggressive promotion of Tea Party protests in the early days of the movement, you can get a reminder of it here: http://mediamatters.org/reports/200904080025

I don't watch TV news, but I was aware of the "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties" just from walking past TVs tuned to that channel in casinos and restaurants and such. I guess at some point they decided it'd be more effective to drop the FNC branding and pretend it was a grassroots movement.
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October 11th, 2011 at 1:26:25 PM permalink
All the news channels love the Tea Party... it's news, it's controversy, it's headlines. I think I saw a stat that said only about 10% of the registered Republicans support the Tea Party.

I will say this for 'em... at least they have aims and a clear manifesto. I always appreciate a political movement that clearly state what it believes IN. Even if I disagree with it.
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EvenBob
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October 11th, 2011 at 4:16:02 PM permalink
Quote: fivespot

If you somehow didn't see Fox News Channel's aggressive promotion of Tea Party protests in the early days of the movement



Are you joking? It was covered 24/7 on CNN
and MSNBC, far more than on FOX. MSNBC
had commentary that never ended on how
deranged and whacked out the Tea Party was,
and FOX just reported on it.
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EvenBob
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October 11th, 2011 at 4:18:10 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I will say this for 'em... at least they have aims and a clear manifesto. I always appreciate a political movement that clearly state what it believes IN.



And they clean up after themselves when a rally
is over. These hippie wanna-be-burnouts in NYC
are filthy, half are on drugs, the other half are
being paid to be there.
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AZDuffman
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October 11th, 2011 at 7:01:24 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo


I had no problems with the Tea Party protests (except that they were sponsored by Fox News -- "we report, you decide"), vs the Wall Street protestors. i'm waiting for AZ's reply.



FNC didn't sponsor any Tea Party rallies, you must get your news from MSNBC. No evidence supports such a statement.

We don't need to raise more revenue, it is 100% a spending issue. From 20% of GDP before Obama to 25% under Obama.

This OWS thing is Tea Party Envy on the left. But as well-bahaved as the TP rallies have been, OWS is a total mess. I have today started predicting this is going to end very badly. Might be a riot or something else, but it will be a bad end.
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