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February 23rd, 2011 at 4:40:09 PM permalink
Quote: DorothyGale

What a nasty society we live in here in America, where people actually discuss ways of being rude as somehow being "right." Here in KS, we'd just shoot you.



As a rule I respond to rudeness in like manner. If someone honks once while I'm pulling out, that's fine. If he leans on the horn, that's rude.

Shooting people for a breach in manners is beyond rude. I think it's criminal.

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Yeah, good idea, just incite the driver. No doubt he's carrying in KS.



The driver is the one inciting to begin with.

But I'll be careful if I'm ever in Kansas.
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February 26th, 2011 at 2:01:08 AM permalink
I prefer the passive-aggresive approach. My temper is such that I try to avoid inciting others, lest they take the bait and a battle results, but I have no qualms in causing myself much work to piss someone off. Maybe feigning your battery had just died. Even if the car was already on, turn it off, pop the hood and look exasperated when you do it. Or do like they do in the livery business, turn on the blinkers and make your way around to ensure they're all operable, check the tires and clearance, check that the horn and wipers work. Or sheepishly apologize to the honker and make like you'll be with them just as fast as you possibly can, then take a ridiculously long time getting ready to leave, and then act like you've forgotten something and run back inside, leaving your car in the spot.

Seriously, I could go on forever as there is nothing I enjoy more than pissing off those who feel entitled to something they have no claim to. Point is, no need to get hyped, cause yourself stress, and end up looking bad. Or encouraging a possible physical altercation. Play dumb, pretend to be simple of mind, and watch the hilarity ensue. It'll feel good when that jackass finally peels away in frustration, just losing his effing mind, and with any luck, he'll be so distraught he'll plow into a parked car or a bus. It's just like gambling; he gets pissed, you get pissed, the pissed ratio is 1:1, its like winning a banker wager in Bac. Or, he gets pissed, you play dumb, he losses his mind and rams a bus. The pissed level is now like 1000:1, akin to hitting a royal flush in Let It Ride. Which is better? ;)
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March 24th, 2011 at 10:52:06 PM permalink
I do have to say that my first instinct was to then pay back the honking guy by purposely sitting in my car longer than I wanted, just to try to piss him off (my passive-aggressive approach, I guess). But...

I voted that the guy was a jerk. It is your spot until you give it up, if he's waiting then he's choosing to wait, and that's on him. I'm on your side, but I do have to say that you yelling at him was not justified. Even though I am not perfect by any means, I try to think about what would be the right thing to do. We're all brothers and sisters in this world if you think about it. If he was a family member of yours you probably wouldn't have been so harsh. They say that human beings are all 99.99% alike. We're all just puttin' around in this crazy place we call earth together.
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March 26th, 2011 at 6:03:04 PM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

They say that human beings are all 99.99% alike.



Trivia Time: What ratio of genes would you have in common with a first cousin?
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March 26th, 2011 at 6:16:42 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Trivia Time: What ratio of genes would you have in common with a first cousin?



Given what you've quoted, I'd guess more than 99.99%
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March 26th, 2011 at 6:22:18 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Trivia Time: What ratio of genes would you have in common with a first cousin?



Ratio = (1/2)^N

where N = distance along ancestry tree, with only parent/child relationships in the tree ...

For self, it's 1/1 (N = 0)

For a parent/child, it's 1/2 (N = 1) [child -> parent]

For siblings it's 1/4 (N = 2) [child1 -> parent -> child2]

For Aunt/Uncle, it's 1/8 (N = 3) [child -> parent -> parent -> child]

For cousin, it's 1/16 (N = 4) [child -> parent -> parent -> child -> child]

That seems about right for a Saturday ...

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April 4th, 2011 at 10:51:16 PM permalink
Quote: DorothyGale


Ratio = (1/2)^N

where N = distance along ancestry tree, with only parent/child relationships in the tree ...

For self, it's 1/1 (N = 0)

For a parent/child, it's 1/2 (N = 1) [child -> parent]

For siblings it's 1/4 (N = 2) [child1 -> parent -> child2]

For Aunt/Uncle, it's 1/8 (N = 3) [child -> parent -> parent -> child]

For cousin, it's 1/16 (N = 4) [child -> parent -> parent -> child -> child]

That seems about right for a Saturday ...

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I believe you are wrong, for the same reason you are wrong about siblings. The answer should be 1/2 for full siblings because they share a bond through both parents. A child will get a random half of his father's genes, and a random half from his mother. Same as a sibling. There will be a 50% overlap from each parent. So 50%*50% + 50%*50% = 50%.

So I claim for cousin it is child -> parent -> sibling -> child = (1/2)^3 = 1/8.
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April 8th, 2011 at 11:38:35 AM permalink
Why wouldn't you have exactly the same genes as your sibling? My brother and I come from the same parents. Why do you say we only get a random half?
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April 8th, 2011 at 1:46:59 PM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

Why wouldn't you have exactly the same genes as your sibling? My brother and I come from the same parents. Why do you say we only get a random half?



Your genes are a mix of your parent's. You get half of your mother's genes and half of your father's to make one whole set.
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April 8th, 2011 at 2:20:20 PM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

Why wouldn't you have exactly the same genes as your sibling? My brother and I come from the same parents. Why do you say we only get a random half?



Genes come in pairs. When gametes form, the pairs split up. A sperm cell or an ovum has only half the genes that the other cells in a person's body do. So when your embryo formed, it didn't have the same mix as your brother's. I'd even say there's a better than 99.9% certainty your brother has a specific gene you don't.

Also genes don't recombine the same way each time. That's why there's no limit to how many different children a single set of parents can have.

Then there's the matter of recessive vs dominant genes, mutations and other complicating factors. That we know of. Most of what the genes do we don't really know yet.
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