How many of you (us) are Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual or Transgendered?
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I know there is a big difference between Gays and Lesbians on one hand and Bisexuals on the other, and I'm aware of big controversies over some issues. I'm also well aware that many in the GLB communities do not think Trandgendered people have anything to do with them, and viceversa, as well as lots of acrimony(sp?) on both sides of that divide. I also know there's lots of overlap in these categories.
But for the purposes of this poll, I'm lumping all together. It makes for an easier count.
Also I'm posting this on free speech, beacsue these topics tend to spark very passionate debate.
Reposnses to the poll are anonymous, naturally. if you want to add apost to the response, that's fine. But you don't have to.
But in order not to get the Wizard angry, specifically not angry at ne, I'll add that I expected some posts to follow.
This poll might be more relevant in Zodies ... a Vegas bar devoted largely to a clientele that is oft-described as "interesting".
Quote: FleaStiffHow many of you drag yourself away from the Video Poker machines to ever find out???.
Or away from this site?
Of course, in the context of this topic, "drag" is a very interesting choice of words...
Why do some gays feel the need to flaunt it every chance they get? Here in Connecticut, the top tv station in Hartford, WFSB Channel 3, has a gay weatherman. He is very popular and seems like a nice man. He is also very gay and he won't let anyone forget it even for a minute. He works it into every conversation he possibly can including the weather reports.
Many people like him, some are put off by his antics and some despise him. Me-I just want to know if it's going to snow.
Quote: benbakdoffEveryone please excuse my lack of knowledge on this subject. Assuming everyone on this board is at least 21 years old, how could someone answer the poll with "I'm not sure?" When will they be sure? How much trial and error do they need? ...
Asexuality is the only thing I can come up with.
Quote: benbakdoffthe top tv station in Hartford, WFSB Channel 3, has a gay weatherman. He is very popular and seems like a nice man. He is also very gay and he won't let anyone forget it even for a minute. He works it into every conversation he possibly can including the weather reports. Many people like him...
I think there is a certain new phenomenon of gay fascination that sort of is spreading around, and someone like that can cash in. The show Tosh.O is doing that for sure. Nothing new under the sun, though, we went through Richard Simmons years ago too.
As for me, there seems to be a dearth of information on the subject of homosexuality from the perspectives that interest me. Perhaps a new thread on that later.
For that matter, why did Nareed include such a choice? Perhaps the answer to that question will indicate an answer to your question.Quote: benbakdoff... how could someone answer the poll with "I'm not sure?"
Quote: JerryLoganLots of votes, very few replies.... I think I know one member who wouldn't want to share how he watches the hockey games with us.
Do I get three guesses over who you're trying to dis? :-P
You need THREE guesses?Quote: ElectricDreamsDo I get three guesses over who you're trying to dis? :-P
Quote: ElectricDreamsDo I get three guesses over who you're trying to dis? :-P
My question is, why should we even consider it a dis? It's like calling someone a "ginger": an insult only in the mind of the one tossing it. Regardless of the target's sexuality, it isn't an insult. It would be like insulting someone for wearing New Balance instead of Nike; a non-sequitur.
Quote: benbakdoffEveryone please excuse my lack of knowledge on this subject. Assuming everyone on this board is at least 21 years old, how could someone answer the poll with "I'm not sure?" When will they be sure? How much trial and error do they need?
Some people don't like to label their sexuality into a neat box. And some people may still not genuinely know by age 21 or 31 what their sexuality is. Or it may be changing. Or indeed, by 21 they may not have had much or any trial and error.
I do like watching hockey though, for what ever that means.
Quote: MoscaMy question is, why should we even consider it a dis? It's like calling someone a "ginger": an insult only in the mind of the one tossing it. Regardless of the target's sexuality, it isn't an insult. It would be like insulting someone for wearing New Balance instead of Nike; a non-sequitur.
Oh, I most certainly don't, and hopefully I didn't come across as such. I think JerryLogan does.
Actually, I know JL does, based on his posting history.
Quote:I do like watching hockey though, for what ever that means.
The Predators are getting both Pekka Rinne and Patric Hornqvist back from injury, in time for the Blackhawks game tomorrow.
I know the guys up North are always interested in what's happening in Nashville...
Quote: benbakdoffEveryone please excuse my lack of knowledge on this subject. Assuming everyone on this board is at least 21 years old, how could someone answer the poll with "I'm not sure?" When will they be sure? How much trial and error do they need?
Why do some gays feel the need to flaunt it every chance they get? Here in Connecticut, the top tv station in Hartford, WFSB Channel 3, has a gay weatherman. He is very popular and seems like a nice man. He is also very gay and he won't let anyone forget it even for a minute. He works it into every conversation he possibly can including the weather reports.
Many people like him, some are put off by his antics and some despise him. Me-I just want to know if it's going to snow.
This sounds like one of those designer-delivery gays Singer mentioned. So he must act like that in front of the camera because he enjoys pushing his lifestlye down others throats and he's looking for lovers to watch the hockey game with at the same time. My preference is to throw up when I picture 2 homos doing that. Now I have NO BIASES about watching two lesbians going at it. I'm a fair guy.
Quote: thecesspitI do like watching hockey though, for what ever that means.
totally manly. Watching soccer is what is gay.
Quote: benbakdoffWhy do some gays feel the need to flaunt it every chance they get? Here in Connecticut, the top tv station in Hartford, WFSB Channel 3, has a gay weatherman. He is very popular and seems like a nice man. He is also very gay and he won't let anyone forget it even for a minute. He works it into every conversation he possibly can including the weather reports.
Are you claiming he talks openly about being gay in his weather reports?
Keep in mind I live in CT and watch FSB. I have never heard him mention his sexuality once?
I'm gonna need a few examples.
Quote: odiousgambittotally manly. Watching soccer is what is gay.
I must be bisexual then.
Quote: benbakdoffEveryone please excuse my lack of knowledge on this subject. Assuming everyone on this board is at least 21 years old, how could someone answer the poll with "I'm not sure?" When will they be sure? How much trial and error do they need?
Why do some gays feel the need to flaunt it every chance they get? .
For the same reason that many heterosexual people flaunt their gender and sexuality with their clothing choices, mannerisms, behavior, etc.
Quote: mipletAsexuality is the only thing I can come up with.
Isaac Newton was claimed to be one, but I think otherwise because of the "time" he lived in.
Quote: odiousgambittotally manly. Watching soccer is what is gay.
Aren't these two sports too similar to differentiate in that way? Hockey is just faster, colder soccer with a smaller playing surface, sticks, and fisticuffs.
Quote: JerryLoganHahahahahaha! I see the voting for "gay" went up by one as soon as mkl saw this thread! Now tell me I'm wrong about EVERYTHING ELSE I said about him!!
I think this proves your man-crush on every little thing he does.
Seriously, you have an obsession that's gone beyond odd well into the creepy weird.
Quote: thecesspitthe creepy weird.
My original words, but never more well-spoken than RIGHT HERE/RIGHT NOW!
Quote: JerryLoganHahahahahaha! I see the voting for "gay" went up by one as soon as mkl saw this thread! Now tell me I'm wrong about EVERYTHING ELSE I said about him!!
Jerry, I think the point is that no one cares about mlk's sexuality but you.
Quote: MoscaJerry, I think the point is that no one cares about mlk's sexuality but you.
But, it's always nice to come to a highly probable conclusion based on hints and clues provided unwittingly by the subject, is it not? Isn't that how all you theory-driven people live? Besides, it's not me starting all these homo-oriented threads.
Quote: JerryLoganHahahahahaha! I see the voting for "gay" went up by one as soon as mkl saw this thread! Now tell me I'm wrong about EVERYTHING ELSE I said about him!!
You missed that one.
I signed on and voted.
Ho Ho Ho
merry christmas!
Damn CA rain!
Quote: nope27
Ho Ho Ho
merry christmas!
You mean:
No Ho Mo
Merry Christmas!
Quote: JerryLoganMy original words, but never more well-spoken than RIGHT HERE/RIGHT NOW!
I am very glad you agree, realisation of your problem is the first step to getting help.
Quote: JerryLoganBut, it's always nice to come to a highly probable conclusion based on hints and clues provided unwittingly by the subject, is it not? Isn't that how all you theory-driven people live? Besides, it's not me starting all these homo-oriented threads.
I could come to some highly probable conclusions as well, based on hints and clues you've provided. I just don't think that my conclusions are relevant to anything. I find it interesting that you think yours are.
I don't know what you mean by "theory driven"; I play pretty much the same way you do, even though I believe in the math. I don't play for the math, I play because I like to.
I started a homo-oriented thread. It was me.
Quote: DJTeddyBearFor that matter, why did Nareed include such a choice? Perhaps the answer to that question will indicate an answer to your question.
One reason for that choice ("I'm not sure") is that if you've been there you don't need an explanation. I've been there.
Another reason is that figuring yourself out can be hard.
Quote: Wavy70Are you claiming he talks openly about being gay in his weather reports?
Keep in mind I live in CT and watch FSB. I have never heard him mention his sexuality once?
I'm gonna need a few examples.
Openly. No, I am not claiming that. It's all double entendres. He talks about being out where he doesn't mean outside. He mentions his partner Paul and always emphasizes the word partner. When referring to another male, he'll sometimes say things like "watch out Paul, he's a good looking guy." When Adam Lambert was in town, he made several inappropriate comments that didn't leave much to the imagination. He reads emails on the air from people bashing him for being gay. He's worse on the Better Connecticut tv show because he gets away with more. I don't have all the dates and times but I'll leave you with one. January 7th 2009 6:15am at the news desk. He was talking about a trip to NY that he had to make with the traffic girl. They got back late and the traffic girl said he could stay in her hotel room. His comment was "I don't swing that way."
My wife thinks he's great and like I said I just want to know if it's going to snow.
Quote: benbakdoffMy wife thinks he's great
Straight women can be fascinated and make a millionaire out of Richard Simmons, for example, but in my experience really dislike it when they personally have to deal with a situation where a prerogative that women feel is reserved for women gets invoked by the wrong sex. Whining about a problem, for example. Notice the emphasis on personally . Just my 2 cents
Quote: MoscaMy question is, why should we even consider it a dis? It's like calling someone a "ginger": an insult only in the mind of the one tossing it. Regardless of the target's sexuality, it isn't an insult. It would be like insulting someone for wearing New Balance instead of Nike; a non-sequitur.
Matt Bonner of the Spurs could be called a "ginger" although I wouldn't do it from closer than the tenth row. He does, however, change shoes:
"I've been wearing New Balance at home and Converse on the road".
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/12/20/blair-duncan-join-forces-for-eclipse/
Must be something in casino chips, or maybe in Vegas' air ;)
Seriously, I expected about a 4 or 5% GLBT vote, not nearly 15%
Quote: thecesspitI think this proves your man-crush on every little thing he does.
Seriously, you have an obsession that's gone beyond odd well into the creepy weird.
Actually, I didn't vote. Buy Jerry clearly wishes I had.
Quote: KeyserWhat is the difference between Gay and Lesbian? Aren't they both homosexuals? Doesn't this mean that they are both Gay?
30 years ago it seemed gay covered males and females, with "queer" being male-only and "lesbian" being female only. Lately it seems "gay" is more male-only. I attribute some of it to them wanting both names so when they add in bi and transgender they can make catchy slang/acronyms. I'm waiting for the next "acceptable" term to come along and "gay" will no longer be PC. Just like the evolution from negro-colored-black-african american.
Quote: NareedI must say that 5 (or maybe 4.5) out of 35 votes is a higher percentage than I expected.
Must be something in casino chips, or maybe in Vegas' air ;)
Seriously, I expected about a 4 or 5% GLBT vote, not nearly 15%
Sample size far too small to draw a conclusion. The general population probably tends to be 1-2% with another 3-4% who are "confused" because popular culture has tried to make it seem normal. And some of that 3-4% will try it out because it is better than being alone in their mind.
Quote: benbakdoffOpenly. No, I am not claiming that. It's all double entendres. He talks about being out where he doesn't mean outside. He mentions his partner Paul and always emphasizes the word partner. When referring to another male, he'll sometimes say things like "watch out Paul, he's a good looking guy." When Adam Lambert was in town, he made several inappropriate comments that didn't leave much to the imagination. He reads emails on the air from people bashing him for being gay. He's worse on the Better Connecticut tv show because he gets away with more. I don't have all the dates and times but I'll leave you with one. January 7th 2009 6:15am at the news desk. He was talking about a trip to NY that he had to make with the traffic girl. They got back late and the traffic girl said he could stay in her hotel room. His comment was "I don't swing that way."
My wife thinks he's great and like I said I just want to know if it's going to snow.
So it's more or less the same banter that occurs on just about every newscast? When Geoff Fox on WTHN mentions his wife is he flaunting his heterosexuality?
Watch GoodDay NY the weather guy there seems to need to be in a muscle tee with his arms oiled.
Out of curiosity were you offended that he made inappropriate comments or that he made them about another male?
Quote: AZDuffman30 years ago it seemed gay covered males and females, with "queer" being male-only and "lesbian" being female only. Lately it seems "gay" is more male-only. I attribute some of it to them wanting both names so when they add in bi and transgender they can make catchy slang/acronyms. I'm waiting for the next "acceptable" term to come along and "gay" will no longer be PC. Just like the evolution from negro-colored-black-african american.
I'm fascinated by the progression of PC terminology. Specifically, I don't understand the coopting of words that results in the tabooification of their original or logical meaning.
Finish these lyrics: "I feel pretty, oh so pretty. Pretty and witty and ____?" Serioulsy, West Side Story would be more entertaining if Maria was gay, but putting in bright is just stupid. We all know that gay means happy...
Insurgent is the opposite of incumbent. I got written up at work last month for telling a non-incumbent supplier that he was an insurgent supplier. I wonder if his strong negative reaction makes him an enemy combatant as he relates to my career?
African Americans are Americans who are from Africa. Some of those people are white (South Africans, Zimbabwans, Egyptians, etc.). Some people who are black identify as Caribbean, Panamanian, Fijian, Samoaan, etc. Refering to all people who are black as "african american" incorrectly excludes white africans and incorrectly includes black people who do not identify as african. Further, saying "he's the black guy" is like saying "she's the bigger gal" or "they're bald." It gives the proper and obvious identifying characteristic without imposing an unknown and unnecessary cultural identification.
Quote: rdw4potusI'm fascinated by the progression of PC terminology. Specifically, I don't understand the coopting of words that results in the tabooification of their original or logical meaning.
Finish these lyrics: "I feel pretty, oh so pretty. Pretty and witty and ____?" Serioulsy, West Side Story would be more entertaining if Maria was gay, but putting in bright is just stupid. We all know that gay means happy...
Insurgent is the opposite of incumbent. I got written up at work last month for telling a non-incumbent supplier that he was an insurgent supplier. I wonder if his strong negative reaction makes him an enemy combatant as he relates to my career?
African Americans are Americans who are from Africa. Some of those people are white (South Africans, Zimbabwans, Egyptians, etc.). Some people who are black identify as Caribbean, Panamanian, Fijian, Samoaan, etc. Refering to all people who are black as "african american" incorrectly excludes white africans and incorrectly includes black people who do not identify as african. Further, saying "he's the black guy" is like saying "she's the bigger gal" or "they're bald." It gives the proper and obvious identifying characteristic without imposing an unknown and unnecessary cultural identification.
Perhaps we could just call all of them people?
Perhaps PC should just be called correct. In polite society you don't refer to people as the bald guy or the bigger girl.
African Americans refers to ethnicity and race not to location of birth. Just as Asian American, Irish American etc. A white person from Africa would not be racially or ethnically changed due to location of birth.
Quote: Wavy70Perhaps we could just call all of them people?
Perhaps PC should just be called correct. In polite society you don't refer to people as the bald guy or the bigger girl.
African Americans refers to ethnicity and race not to location of birth. Just as Asian American, Irish American etc. A white person from Africa would not be racially or ethnically changed due to location of birth.
It's possible to be racially black and not identify as ethnically african - just ask anyone from Trinidad, Jamaica, Haiti, or Panama. The term African American is offensive to people who are racially black and not ethnically African. A person can tell by sight that someone is black. You might be right that it's a bad identifier to use, but that's WAY better than imposing an ethnicity on someone based on only their appearance.
Quote: rdw4potusIt's possible to be racially black and not identify as ethnically african - just ask anyone from Trinidad, Jamaica, Haiti, or Panama. The term African American is offensive to people who are racially black and not ethnically African. A person can tell by sight that someone is black. You might be right that it's a bad identifier to use, but that's WAY better than imposing an ethnicity on someone based on only their appearance.
A person can be Haitian and of African decent. Nationality and ethnicity/race are separate items.
You are correct that you would not refer to a person from Trinidad as African America. However the fact of being born in Trinidad does not change you race.
Quote: NareedBTW, every single person on Earth ultimately comes from Africa.
Please prove that assertion. I won't be able to sleep nights until you say you can't.
Quote: NareedBTW, every single person on Earth ultimately comes from Africa.
Don't bother trying to explain that to Jerry. Topics like paleontology and places like Olduvai Gorge are a tad too esoteric. But you're quite correct.
