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March 30th, 2011 at 7:47:35 AM permalink
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The emergence of Marc Bulger allowed the Rams to save money at Quarterback.



It saved them a lot of victories, too.

But in all fairness, the loss that brought down the Rams was the retirement of Dick Vermeil.

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It's not like Warner dropped off the face of the earth, or was out of the game after that. He was the starting QB at New York the next year,



Yes, and he was terrible. When Coughlin replaced him with Eli Manning, Warner didn't argue. He's reported to have told Coughlin "Don't go back to me. This only works for the kid if you stick with him." Which was both sensible and generous on his aprt.

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then was the starter in Arizona for the next 5 years. He was a Pro-Bowl quarterback in both 2009-2010.



I don't know much about his career in Arizona, but I do know he was replaced as a starter by Matt Leinart until Wisenhunt took over the team.

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Many people believe he's a decent candidate for the Hall of Fame.



Decent? I'd say he ought to be a shoo-in. He led the best offense of his time, he took two teams to three superbowls and won one of them. What more do you need to do? At that I can argue he was two passes away from winning against the Steelers. One was the pass intercepted by Harrison at the close of the first half. The other was Roethlisberger's pass to Holmes near the end of the game. Had either of those been an incompletion, the Cardinals might have won the game.
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March 30th, 2011 at 7:51:45 AM permalink
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How can you say soccer is not a sport when those players run about 6 miles per game?



An atheltic contest with an objective on the field, remember? There's no objective in sucker that I can discern.

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I'm not a fan,



Good for you.

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but it's the world's most popular spectator game. Can't argue there.



Argue that it's the most popular spectator game? No, of coruse not. Why argue with the facts. But so what?
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March 30th, 2011 at 8:06:25 AM permalink
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I think it shows how much golf is a mental game

Absolutely!! All the guys are on tour are superb golfers with incredible skills. Tiger has consistently demonstrated that he had the ability to perform at a level a notch above the best players in the world. The mistakes he made in his personal life have definitely affected his ability to concentrate on his game.


There have been a number of posts in this thread talking about how golf is a mental game and that pressure, clutch shots, choking, etc., can have tremendous impact on performance.

So just for the fun of it, here is a side topic: I earned "athletic" letters from two colleges for my participation in a varsity "sport". (The quotation marks are for Nareed's benefit; I actually have the letters from the sweaters framed and hanging on my office wall.) I consider this sport to be one in which the mental aspects and the effects of pressure, clutch shots and choking have far greater impact than in golf. This sport (in a slight variation from the way I competed) is part of the modern Olympics. From that description, can anyone identify the sport? As a related question, what Olympic sport do you consider to have the highest mental component, with the greatest potential risk that a case of the yips will lead to choking in the clutch?
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March 30th, 2011 at 8:06:32 AM permalink
I assume Tiger is pretty tense, what with the divorce and all.

He should renew his prescription to Ambien, get a luxo suite in Las Vegas, and hunker down with some ho's for a bit of R&R.

His mind should clear a bit once he cleans his pipes.

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March 30th, 2011 at 8:13:17 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

So just for the fun of it, here is a side topic: I earned "athletic" letters from two colleges for my participation in a varsity "sport". (The quotation marks are for Nareed's benefit; I actually have the letters from the sweaters framed and hanging on my office wall.)



:) That's so cute!

But really, does my opinion affect you so much? Or do men place a particular emphasis on the meaning of "sports"? I have noticed I get a bigger reaction by calling boredom-inducing activities like soccer or golf "not sports" than by saying they are so bad they ought to come with warning labels. I just don't understand why.

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From that description, can anyone identify the sport? As a related question, what Olympic sport do you consider to have the highest mental component, with the greatest potential risk that a case of the yips will lead to choking in the clutch?



Archery? Whatever the proper name is for shooting at still or moving targets with a gun? You didn't say Winter Olympics, so that rules out the Biathlon.
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March 30th, 2011 at 9:03:12 AM permalink
Has there ever been anyone like Tiger in that for a while the betting line in golf was "Tiger" vs. "Anyone else" with Tiger being the favorite?
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March 30th, 2011 at 9:08:50 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

So just for the fun of it, here is a side topic: I earned "athletic" letters from two colleges for my participation in a varsity "sport". (The quotation marks are for Nareed's benefit; I actually have the letters from the sweaters framed and hanging on my office wall.) I consider this sport to be one in which the mental aspects and the effects of pressure, clutch shots and choking have far greater impact than in golf. This sport (in a slight variation from the way I competed) is part of the modern Olympics. From that description, can anyone identify the sport? As a related question, what Olympic sport do you consider to have the highest mental component, with the greatest potential risk that a case of the yips will lead to choking in the clutch?

I was going to say archery, but I don't think that's an NCAA sport (does that matter?), so I will say riflery, and hope you went to West Virginia or Alaska-Anchorage.

By the way, riflery was my favorite spot to watch in the last Olympics. Check out online next time. The pressure is incredible. So that's my answer to your second question, too.
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March 30th, 2011 at 9:26:54 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

what Olympic sport do you consider to have the highest mental component, with the greatest potential risk that a case of the yips will lead to choking in the clutch?



Balance beam. (kidding - but, I would consider testicle smashing a chokable event when having to practice over a narrow beam for years, although males don't do that sport in the Olympics.)
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March 30th, 2011 at 9:59:48 AM permalink
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An atheltic contest with an objective on the field, remember? There's no objective in soccer that I can discern.



Score more goals than the opposition.

Which is, durrh, Winning.
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March 30th, 2011 at 10:18:23 AM permalink
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Score more goals than the opposition.



I've heard that claim before. I don't buy it. The goal is huge and the goal keeper is tiny in comparison. Most shots allegedly at the goal don't even come close, which leads me to believe they're doing something else. I do't kbnow what else, which is why I say there's no ojective I can discern.

The fans' reactions are no guide, either. They're very excited at shots around the goal rather than disappointed the shots didn't get in. I've yet to see football fans seem excited when their team drops the ball in the end zone or misses a field goal.


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Which is, durrh, Winning.



That's the goal of any contest, sport or not. But winning how? In Football you win by outscoring your opponent, an objective achieved by driving the goal down the field and either gettign the ball, carried or caught by a player, inside the end zone, or kicked through the goal posts for a field goal. That's a clear objective the offense is working to achieve and the defense is laboring to prevent. There's no such equivalent in soccer. it's 20 men, or women, kicking the ball up and down the field, kicking it towards the general vicinity of the goal, and sometimes overacting when someone dares touch them.
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