So there
*I agree that confidence is 'it' and man you need to work on that.
*Thanks for your honesty about your lack of it, and your stories about missed opportunities I can relate to. Although you take the cake [g].
*Missing opportunities and lacking confidence are 100% connected every time.
*My caveat: I was so happy when around age 30 I landed a girlfriend that was horny [with other qualities I liked too, though]. But although I gave her 'everything I got', she wasn't getting enough! Horny seemed great but it meant she was messing around, which maybe was to be expected. Now, I don't know if this fits the bill here with your deal, but I am just saying sometimes to get your fantasy coming true has a way of backfiring. Tread with some caution here.
Quote: ewjones080Ha, I have no confidence! I don't know how to pull the trigger with women. I don't know how to make a move. I mean I know how, but I guess I just get shy, but I wouldn't say shy, it's just this little seed of doubt, that maybe she wouldn't be into it. This friend of mine from high school. We used to hang out all the time. Once in college she wanted me to give her a massage, in bed. A couple months later, we went down by the river, and she wanted me to massage her then to, sort of in this sitting spooning type thing..
Another girl sent me a couple pretty strong signals at a party once.. we chatted a bit through IM, then we didn't hang out, and I forgot about for a few months, then I IM'd her once, and she asked if I wanted to watch movies at her place.... Pretty sure she just broke up and looking for rebound f**k. She was hot too, but I didn't make a move..
I could go on and on and on... But I think I've made my point..
Sounds familiar...
Quote: ewjones080Ha, I have no confidence!
I know exactly how you feel. While I still don't know how to talk to women about anything except gambling and trivia, in my younger years I was not much better than Raj on the Big Bang Theory. I agree that self confidence is the answer. However, that can't be faked. The best way to get it is to be good at something, and hopefully something women like. What do you already like and are skilled at?
Also, here is a page from the Wizard play book. Take up a foreign language. That way you can (1) at least pay female tutors to talk to you and (2) I think you'll find it easier to speak to women in a foreign language than in English, as if you were a different person.
Quote: WizardAlso, here is a page from the Wizard play book. Take up a foreign language. That way you can (1) at least pay female tutors to talk to you and (2) I think you'll find it easier to speak to women in a foreign language than in English, as if you were a different person.
Wiz...I hope you tore out the page with the chloroform and rag instructions!
-If you talk to a girl you are ahead of about 75% of the people out there, so many guys are afraid of rejection talking to girls that if you are even willing to talk to a girl you are way ahead of the curve.
-Baby steps, people say just go start asking girls out, this is actually really bad advice, start small and work your way up.
-This may sound dumb but start off by just talking to girls about mundane things, not asking them out, just going to the mall, or some other public place with lots of people, ask a girl for the time, if she knows where a store is, anything. Supermarkets are great, play dumb, pick up 2 products and ask her if she recommends one over the other. Just talk to girls any chance you can. You need to get comfortable talking to women in normal situations before you start hitting on them.
-Progress slowly, you got to Starbucks or a coffee house type place, if an attractive female in front of you gets drink X, recommend a similar one. hey I like those too, you should try Y if you like X.
-The first steps is to just get comfortable talking to woman like you talk to anyone else. Do you get anxious asking someone for the time? Probably not, so think of excuses to talk to woman like that, get your info, say a few things and leave, the key early is just get COMFORTABLE, it will help you in flirting later.
-Hell there is a good chance that if you start with something silly like this, add a few comments etc that a conversation will evolve on its own. You need to be able to improv from there. Girls love shopping, if you are shopping for clothes and the conversation is going well ask her to come help etc.....
There are lots of different directions you can take these starting conversations from but just start by approaching women with common seemingly innocent questions to get your confidence and comfortability up.
You have to force yourself into these interactions if you ever want to get anywhere.
You have probably heard this before but once you move on to flirting etc... who cares if some random girl at the mall, bar, casino or wherever rejects you.
It doesn't even take much, a simple, hey how's it going tonight is easy enough to start a conversation.
Great example of this:
A month ago, I meet up with some friends at a club at the casino. I'm enjoying my drink and my friend comes over and says "Hey I know why you are hanging out over here" and he motions his head towards a group of 4 attractive girls standing together right next to us. I say well lets go say hi. He informs me that he doesn't do that. I simply turned around, grabbed him, and said "Hey ladies I'm ruby and this is my friend Oliver, how's it going over here tonight?". We wound up talking with them for a while, having a few drinks and dancing with them for most of the night. We wind up getting separated but run into them later as they are leaving, they tell us what a fun time they had earlier with us and we each got a nice kiss goodnight from one of them while they were being dragged out by there other 2 friends.
All as a result of basically saying hello.
My friend and I are in our early 30's and average looking, nothing special, these girls were very attractive 25 year old females who for the most part, were not approached by anyone else that night.
Quote: WizardTake up a foreign language. ... (2) I think you'll find it easier to speak to women in a foreign language than in English, as if you were a different person.
I've noticed that talking to a woman about Star Wars, Star Trek, or Babylon 5 results in the same unintelligible look as talking to them in a foreign language they don't understand.
Example. I work in computers and technology and am pretty up on current technology trends etc. If I strike up a conversation with a girl and she has her phone, tablet, computer etc out I will say "hey is that the new (insert piece of technology)" even if i know it's not. Is that the new IPhone? I was thinking about getting one but wasn't sure, I heard X good thing but also Y bad thing. They love to feel like they are helping, many times they launch into why they love it, even offering to show me how it works etc...
Whatever your area of knowledge is use that, play a little dumb, let her teach you something etc...
Just avoid the following things:
Religion
Politics
Sports(yes avoid this early)
Ex-Girlfriends.
If for some reason any of those come up change the subject, especially ex-girlfriends etc... If she brings it up or asks you something about an ex just say, yeah she was a nice girl but it just didn't work out. If a girl brings something like this up she is kinda probing to see how you would talk about her if things don't work out. That's a good sign she's interested, don't torpedo yourself by calling your ex an evil conniving bitch.
+5 Pimpin' points for running game in a grocery store, you can learn much about a girl by what's in her cart.
I've heard stories of him hanging out with girls and been with him outside of the strip clubs on a few occasions and he is TOTALLY getting played. He was a popular and smooth guy in college, who has probably slept with 40+ women (excluding strippers) in his lifetime, but the strippers do not want to date him. The interesting thing is, I think he secretly knows this and just ignores it because it's more fun to "play the game" and pretend that he doesn't know. That's why it doesn't really bother me, he's gone meta.
However, if he was historically less smooth and had legitimate expectations, I would be concerned, as I am for you.
When I was in college, I was dating a girl whose roommate was a stripper, but also actually in college. She definitely manipulated customers from time to time, usually with some kind of date-like premise. For example, she'd ask to grab coffee, conveniently beside the bookstore, then invite her "date" to join her why she picked up some textbooks... start the sob story and, viola, free textbooks!
The movie part of your story doesn't shock me, but her Walmart job does. If she was drumming up "out of the office" business, I'd imagine that she wouldn't have that job. So, it could be a lie or you could be her first attempt to get out of that job.
I'd say 95% chance that this is not a "real date." That is not to say that you can't have sex with her without a discussion of terms in advance, but, if that's the case, I suspect that she'll use guilt to extract some form of compensation.
Quote: deedubbsThe movie part of your story doesn't shock me, but her Walmart job does. If she was drumming up "out of the office" business, I'd imagine that she wouldn't have that job.
I have to admit, as soon as I read that followup bit of additional information, I thought, 'she's got kid(s).'
Before I read the advice about calling more than once, or leaving messages, I did just that.. called her Sunday, like I said I was going to, but left no message, sent no text... Monday morning called again, but left a message asking if we were going out in X city or Y city (I live in X, Y is where the strip club is, said she doesn't live in Y) since we hadn't discussed that... Really there were no details, just a general idea and a specific day...
So that was on Monday, No replies yet... I expect to get no reply. And I will no longer contact her, unless she contacts me. That's not so much following the advice, I would've done that anyway, I think that is good advice...
Quote: WizardI know exactly how you feel. While I still don't know how to talk to women about anything except gambling and trivia, in my younger years I was not much better than Raj on the Big Bang Theory. q]
DO NOT blindly accept what has been spoken. DO NOT blindly accept what has been written. Think. Assess. Lead. DO NOT blindly follow.
Keep in mind, it occurred once. Never did it again. Married my wife and great friend and have been loyal to her throughout all of our years together.
Probably not an astounding story, but one still leaves me amazed many, many years later. Maybe I'm just easily amazed?
Anyway, back in my early 20's, I attended a house party held by a co-worker. I had actually hoped to end up hooking up with another co-worker who I knew would be there. Unfortunately, she showed with a date and I felt deflated. What could I do but have a couple of drinks? So I have had a couple and am standing around when this woman walks up to me and asks me to dance. At this point, I have acquired some liquid confidence, am somewhat surly, and uncaring since the woman I wanted was taken, and so I say to her "well, I only dance in bed". To this day I don't know why I said that , but I did. To my surprise she responds with "dance with me here and then we can go to my place and dance in bed". Turns out that she was a neighbor of the co-worker and we ended up going to her place. Sometimes, you just need to ask.......
Lastly, since she had a huge german shepherd (not an animal lover here) that parked himself outside her bedroom door, I definitely felt like I performed under duress........
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Lastly, since she had a huge german shepherd (not an animal lover here) that parked himself outside her bedroom door, I definitely felt like I performed under duress........
Exactly. Women and Dogs. ;-)
A relationship with a working girl may help build your confidence. She may be more affordable (but possibly also less skilled and professional) than most experienced escorts.
(Check my post above, I apologize for my little joke, but I called it)
Listen, you're a nice dude, don't worry about some stripper. You're probably an even better looking guy than I am, (though that is a fairly good standard) and I never had any trouble with women, so nor should you. You just need confidence, and to do everything Rubixxcube says.
Quote: WoldusMy vote for best post of 2012!!!! (yes, four ! )
+1. Also, I read that sitting on a couch between my parents. Not really sure why i thought this was a good idea...
Quote: rubixxcube
Great example of this:
A month ago, I meet up with some friends at a club at the casino. I'm enjoying my drink and my friend comes over and says "Hey I know why you are hanging out over here" and he motions his head towards a group of 4 attractive girls standing together right next to us. I say well lets go say hi. He informs me that he doesn't do that. I simply turned around, grabbed him, and said "Hey ladies I'm ruby and this is my friend Oliver, how's it going over here tonight?". We wound up talking with them for a while, having a few drinks and dancing with them for most of the night. We wind up getting separated but run into them later as they are leaving, they tell us what a fun time they had earlier with us and we each got a nice kiss goodnight from one of them while they were being dragged out by there other 2 friends.
All as a result of basically saying hello.
My friend and I are in our early 30's and average looking, nothing special, these girls were very attractive 25 year old females who for the most part, were not approached by anyone else that night.
This was a great story, also, let me throw one out there!
I used to work the Deli at a grocery store and we and Hot Foods shared the same prep area backroom. In any event, when there were five total people working we were gathered together back there discussing whether or not any of us would ever have sex with someone while at work. Prior to the conversation ending, both departments became insanely busy and it remained that way for a few hours.
This young lady and I both had closing shift in our respective departments. She was cleaning out all of the Hot Foods containers while I was getting started hammering out a bunch of Meat & Cheese trays (morning shift's job, but there was a noon order for five trays, so I figured I'd knock out two or three for them) and she asks me, "What about what was being discussed earlier?"
"Sex at work," I inquired, "No, wouldn't do it. I'd probably have sex with someone from work if I felt attracted to her and thought she might be receptive."
"Like who?"
"You're a good example. Theoretically, we both get done at 9:00, we've known each other for a few months, you're physically attractive. If you were to say, 'Hey, why don't we get some dinner after work and go back to your place and have sex,' I'd be all for it. That's just an example, though. I'd probably last twenty minutes."
"Could you make it a half hour?"
"Doubtful, but I have good recovery time, ten minutes, tops."
"You know you're going to have to prove that now, right?"
"Gladly."
Unlike Paul Harvey, I'm not giving you the, "Rest of the story." We ended up dating for a couple months, but she broke it off when I told her I was moving to Kansas City at the end of the second semester of my academic year...even though that was eight months away!
It really IS that easy.
Quote: JamesHello there,
its nice to see you had a good time :D "It just seems strange that this girl would want to date a customer". Why should it be strange? In my opinion, the girl just likes you. If her profession doesn't bother you, you could think of a possible relationship. :)
"So has anything like this ever happened to anyone else? "
Nopes, not yet. But may be itll happen with one of the URL removed. :D
Spammer. Two posts so far, both with a link to the same escort website.
First, though, you really need to work on your confidence. Can you dance? Women love a man who can dance. If you can, go to clubs and start asking women to dance with you. It is the easiest way to meet women. If you can't dance, go take lessons. It is another great way to meet women, especially if you go to C&W bars/honky tonks where they give dance lessons before the bar opens.
First dancer I dated was long before I got into the industry. I was in a club getting a dance from her, and after she was done, I simply said, "I'm jealous of the boyfriend you go home to at night." She asked me to repeat myself, that comment got her attention, and she smiled, told me she didn't have a boyfriend, and we started chatting. She gives me her phone number (this was in the days when cell phones weren't as common as they are now), she called me, boom, we started dating. One compliment, and I was in.
Another time, I was at a different club, and saw a dancer I was interested in. She invites me into a corner with her friends, starts telling me how hot I am (typical bullshit line every stripper will feed you, I initially thought at the time), and then tells me she wants to drink with me. Usually this is a sign they simply are working you for drinks, but she ordered the shots and paid for them. That is different. She then poured it down my throat, and ordered another one. She followed third shot with a kiss. She was sitting in my lap the whole time talking to me. She did one dance, at my request (this is important, because if dancers like you, they normally won't pressure you for dances, they simply want to talk to you because you're a break from 'work'). At the end of the night, we exchange phone numbers.
I call the number the next day, and get a disconnected number. Figuring it is typical bullshit, I let it go. I go back to the same club that night to see a buddy of mine who is DJing, and she sees me the minute I walk into the club. Right away, she yells at me for not calling her after she gave me her number. I mention that I did try to call her, and rattle off the number. It turns out she drunkenly transposed two numbers. She apologizes and kisses me, and we're good. We dated for a few months, still the only time I have dated a Colombian, but wow, loved that accent.
When I was working in the business, I swore I would not date any of the dancers, because that is an easy way to make work an awkward place. I worked on the night shift, though, and would come in with an hour left on the day shift rotation. The day shift girls loved me, because the day shift floor managers were lazy, and didn't go up to the VIP section on the second floor of the club, so the girls were constantly fighting off guys up there b/c it was a free for all. I liked to manage the club from the second floor because I could see everything from there, so my presence up there meant customers had to behave. Many of the day shift girls used to come by and give me hugs to tell me good-bye before they left for the day. I actually had a group of girls I would say bye to every day before they left. One of them decided I wasn't responding quickly enough to her innocent flirting, and took the opportunity to meet my innocent kiss on the cheek open mouthed and put her tongue down my throat. Message received. I walked her to her car, which was one of the things we did at that club as a security precaution, and we exchange phone numbers. She was a nurse at her normal job who was working at the club to make extra money until the hospital picked up some shifts they had dropped (she actually worked at a hospital I had volunteered at when I was in high school, so I actually knew her boss). The day shift girls now knew I had been claimed (I found out later there were some others quietly pursuing me). She was always the first one to text me and call me each day. She also told me after a few weeks that she didn't want it to be a short term thing, she was "going to make me wait". I said that was fine, I was in no rush, I wanted to get to know her. The next day, she called me and told me she was done waiting. Our club was closing and we were both transitioning to new clubs owned by the same boss. Since the last day the club would be opened was going to have an extended shift, and she was going to work the evening shift, we agreed to meet at a hotel down the highway from the club to have our own little party. The minute she walked into the room, she attacked me, ripping my clothes off. Sometimes, making them wait is a good thing ;) She told me she was doing then what she had wanted to do the first time she saw me. She was amaaaaaaazing in bed. She eventually came over to the club I was working at after we transitioned, and we dated for six months.
I have more advice, but this is enough for now.
I'm social and friendly, though, and if you talk to enough women, you're going to find one who likes you enough to want to spend time with you. It's a numbers game, you just have to put yourself out there.
Quote: SACRNah, I'm by no means a ladies man.
I'm social and friendly, though, and if you talk to enough women, you're going to find one who likes you enough to want to spend time with you. It's a numbers game, you just have to put yourself out there.
Hey, you're back! Give us another story.
Let a girl pour something down your gullet... that is living dangerously but since it was in a club the club probably didn't want you passing out there. gypsies in particular use that trick.
that is a world I've stayed out of most of my life.
Just too dangerous, can't trust the drinks, can't trust the girls, can't see a darn thing in the dark.
Quote: SACRNah, I'm by no means a ladies man.
I'm social and friendly, though, and if you talk to enough women, you're going to find one who likes you enough to want to spend time with you. It's a numbers game, you just have to put yourself out there.
100 refusals and 1 score is still a score.
Quote: FleaStiffdarn few strippers that are not hookers.
Let a girl pour something down your gullet... that is living dangerously but since it was in a club the club probably didn't want you passing out there. gypsies in particular use that trick.
that is a world I've stayed out of most of my life.
Just too dangerous, can't trust the drinks, can't trust the girls, can't see a darn thing in the dark.
Since this 'is a world you've stayed out of most of your life', how can you be so certain there are 'darn few strippers who are not hookers'?
I don't get transported around town in a horse trailer, I don't get an oat bag wrapped around by face, but I still feel quite capable of making intelligent comments about horse racing.Quote: SACRSince this 'is a world you've stayed out of most of your life', how can you be so certain there are 'darn few strippers who are not hookers'?
I have a friend who is young, very active in the world of deep bondage, and who has worked in a number of strip clubs, though less than total nudity clubs are not to her liking. She has discussed with me how "its a different world" and the girls are thieves, you can never leave anything lying around backstage or it gets stolen, their educational levels are rather low, etc. She is classically educated, was interviewed by a Dutch sex tv show at 21 and I tend to trust her statements to me about what that world is like.
I have dated/ hooked up with a few strippers for short periods of time, but only one of them I actually meet in a strip club. I meet 2 of them at casinos.
I was 21 and broke(I had a total of $4) when I met the first one. I carded her at the casino, because she looked young, sure enough she wasn't 21. I told her she could stay but only play in my section and play nickels to avoid hand pays. She just got to LV from Oregon. Eventually I asked if she wanted to hang out after I got off work. She said, sure. We walked around the strip. Eventually we got hungry but I told her I didn't have any money. She said, don't worry and paid for dinner and a cab back to my place She left back to Oregon a few days later. She looked like a small town country girl. I wouldn't have know she was a dancer had she not told me.
The last one I meet as I walked out of what was either the Showboat or Castaways(it will always be the SB to me) I seen a really cute girl (hot but innocent looking). She was a brunette with long hair and big green eyes. She was sitting alone waiting for someone on the bench, just outside the back of the casino doors (she was about 19).
I Got to my car and and realized I wouldn't forgive myself if I didn't go back and talk to her. So I took off the Targa roof, pumped up the music, and drove over where she was still sitting. I got out and said, "I wouldn't forgive myself if I didn't ask for your name and number, and ask you out.
She gave me her number. A few days later I called and asked her out, she said yes. During our conversation at dinner, she mentioned was looking for work but could not find anything. She was thinking about "dancing" and had a interview, or whatever you call it. She was reluctant, but she needed work, so she took the job. I can't remember where, but eventually she ended up at Cheetahs.
We starting seeing each other. At the time she was a sweet innocent girl. She never asked for anything or give any indication she wanted anything. I didn't really spend any money on her other than the normal going out stuff. And she lived with me for a few weeks while transitioning to a new apparent.
We soon drifted apart, but we would hook up once in a while. It only took a short while before she was no longer sweet an innocent. It started off with her stripper friends, I could see the pure pressure. Her entire personally changed. A She told me some disturbing stories. I seen her a few years later at the mall, she had a brand new mustang, expensive clothing, and seemed do be doing really well. But just the look in her eyes were cold.
She had a very cute young kid, he was a little over a year old....just kidding
That's classic. There is some change in strippers after working so long. They're just so money motivated, where only money counts. Gypsies always scamming. That's why they say you can only get a stripper if they're drug addicted and you have drugs. That's the way it used to be, much more prostitution these days at the strip club.Quote: AxelWolfThis was before I meet my current GF (we have been together so many years, she's basically my wife. One day we will have a wedding. Perhaps MyVegas points will pay for it since she's got over a million points.)
I have dated/ hooked up with a few strippers for short periods of time, but only one of them I actually meet in a strip club. I meet 2 of them at casinos.
I was 21 and broke(I had a total of $4) when I met the first one. I carded her at the casino, because she looked young, sure enough she wasn't 21. I told her she could stay but only play in my section and play nickels to avoid hand pays. She just got to LV from Oregon. Eventually I asked if she wanted to hang out after I got off work. She said, sure. We walked around the strip. Eventually we got hungry but I told her I didn't have any money. She said, don't worry and paid for dinner and a cab back to my place She left back to Oregon a few days later. She looked like a small town country girl. I wouldn't have know she was a dancer had she not told me.
The last one I meet as I walked out of what was either the Showboat or Castaways(it will always be the SB to me) I seen a really cute girl (hot but innocent looking). She was a brunette with long hair and big green eyes. She was sitting alone waiting for someone on the bench, just outside the back of the casino doors (she was about 19).
I Got to my car and and realized I wouldn't forgive myself if I didn't go back and talk to her. So I took off the Targa roof, pumped up the music, and drove over where she was still sitting. I got out and said, "I wouldn't forgive myself if I didn't ask for your name and number, and ask you out.
She gave me her number. A few days later I called and asked her out, she said yes. During our conversation at dinner, she mentioned was looking for work but could not find anything. She was thinking about "dancing" and had a interview, or whatever you call it. She was reluctant, but she needed work, so she took the job. I can't remember where, but eventually she ended up at Cheetahs.
We starting seeing each other. At the time she was a sweet innocent girl. She never asked for anything or give any indication she wanted anything. I didn't really spend any money on her other than the normal going out stuff. And she lived with me for a few weeks while transitioning to a new apparent.
We soon drifted apart, but we would hook up once in a while. It only took a short while before she was no longer sweet an innocent. It started off with her stripper friends, I could see the pure pressure. Her entire personally changed. A She told me some disturbing stories. I seen her a few years later at the mall, she had a brand new mustang, expensive clothing, and seemed do be doing really well. But just the look in her eyes were cold.
She had a very cute young kid, he was a little over a year old....just kidding
But by god that one time did my one buddy break every rule/steriotype I've ever heard about strippers.
He was dead broke, he brought exactly $0.00 and a case of beer to drink for himself. But this one girl would not leave him alone. She just sat there and talked to him most of the night. Gave him free lap dances. She left his side for a song now and then to make a couple dollars, but spent most of the night just chatting him up.
He left with her number, but woke up with no recollection of the night and never followed up.
Strange stuff.
Quote: ewjones080Last Thursday I went to the strip club. When I walked in, one of them walked up to me and said she knew me, that I had been in there a couple months ago. I didn't remember. We chatted a bit, and not "stripper talk" either. Then did a private dance, two songs. At this location it's not a like a traditional lapdance, where they do everything, it's a bit of a two way street. Let's just say I had some ice and wasn't afraid to use it.
Afterward I made a comment, half joking really "too bad we couldn't do that for real", she responded with "who says we can't", I was speechless. She was the sexiest one in there that night. So a little later, she came back and sat next to me, I brought up the point again, and we exchanged numbers. I walked out thinking did that just happen. It's seemed so strange, and I didn't know what to think of it.
So we exchanged some texts on Saturday, and we have plans for lunch and a movie this coming Thursday. Because this girl seems way out of my league. So I'm just thinking there must be some kind of catch. I mean there must be a catch, right?
So has anything like this ever happened to anyone else? It just seems strange that this girl would want to date a customer. And she's the one that suggested the movie, and she's the one that actually called it a date.
nice experience. i would love to experience that too.
They end up stopping for the night in a motel along 95. She roofies him, steals his car and vanishes. Several years later, she calls Richie, says he has a son and wants 20G in child support. They agree to meet in Washington DC, and his new wife insists she comes to. Girl never shows up, and they come home to find their house robbed.
Go for it. What the hell do you have to lose?
They're not all drug whores, though I suspect that's the way to bet. But it can be about being an extrovert, loving the way you look, and loving being looked at, too. A smart woman like my friend can get a big start on what she really wants from life by making huge money dancing for a few years.
Its not a matter of whether you might meet a nice girl, but of if a nice girl wants anything to do with guys who hang out in strip clubs.
You wouldn't believe the number of wedding rings that turned up on the floor on a regular basis.
Quote: beachbumbabsI have a friend who was a stripper before I met her. She has a beautiful, large rose tattoo just above her right breast, gorgeous redhead(first woman I ever met who would show one off: this was 1990, and women didn't get tattoos that showed). She has an amazing love of life, huge energy, is working as an account executive currently, very popular and genuinely does not give one damn what people think of her.
They're not all drug whores, though I suspect that's the way to bet. But it can be about being an extrovert, loving the way you look, and loving being looked at, too. A smart woman like my friend can get a big start on what she really wants from life by making huge money dancing for a few years.
I agree sir. Well said
Quote: beachbumbabsI have a friend who was a stripper before I met her. ... A smart woman like my friend can get a big start on what she really wants from life by making huge money dancing for a few years.
Amen, bbb. Don't judge books by their covers.
The only real stripper I ever knew I met while washing clothes at the coin laundry. She was doing the same thing. I was in college and had the morning free and we pretty much had the place to ourselves. She was dancing to pay for college. She went to the gym most days when classes allowed, and she danced at night. No hanky-panky with this gal. She had her sights set on an MBA, and I have no doubt she continued through with her plan.
