AxiomOfChoice
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February 23rd, 2014 at 5:07:44 PM permalink
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Vegas baby!!!

Going to take a power nap yhen check out the Palms and Rio (I've never been to the Palms)...then see Penn & Teller and hit the tables late tonight



Palms is, unfortunately, not great. It was always kind of a low-roller casino but at least it used to have some energy. The last time I went, the place was just completely dead. Unless if you want to know what it's like to have a whole casino to yourself, you can skip it.

Penn & Teller are awesome. Very funny and they do some great stuff. If you can, try to get a seat that is close to the action -- Teller is a very talented sleight-of-hand guy, and if you're too far away it's a lot less impressive.
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February 23rd, 2014 at 5:15:48 PM permalink
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Palms is, unfortunately, not great. It was always kind of a low-roller casino but at least it used to have some energy. The last time I went, the place was just completely dead. Unless if you want to know what it's like to have a whole casino to yourself, you can skip it.


Nah, the Palms ain't THAT bad. True, it's not as crowded as it was 7-8 years ago, but it still has a good crowd on weekends. (Lots of attractive young women too.) I wouldn't call it a "low roller" casino. Take Fiesta Rancho, for example..........now that's a low roller casino.
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February 23rd, 2014 at 5:57:50 PM permalink
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Nah, the Palms ain't THAT bad. True, it's not as crowded as it was 7-8 years ago, but it still has a good crowd on weekends. (Lots of attractive young women too.) I wouldn't call it a "low roller" casino. Take Fiesta Rancho, for example..........now that's a low roller casino.



About half a year ago I was in Vegas, and a friend of mine was there as well. He had gotten comped at the Palms, and he was texting me complaining about how crappy and dead it was. I figured, oh, it's just early; it will pick up when it gets later at night. Anyway, in the evening I went over there to meet him and I had to admit that he was right. The place was completely dead.

I'm not exactly sure (I've only stayed at the Palms once, and only been there a few times) but I think that they used to have some nightclubs or something, that they got rid of now. The table limits were always pretty low, but it attracted a younger crowd with less money (a lot of college-age people... which also means lots of hot women). But when they got rid of the nightclubs the hot women stopped going, which of course meant that the college-aged guys stopped going, which totally killed the place.

As far as "low-roller", it's all relative of course. Their table limits were much lower than what I was used to. When I played MS Stud there, it was min $5, max $5 (I've never seen a table game with no gap between min and max before). Of course I've been to places with even lower limits. But I always got the idea that the Palms was mostly a mix of locals and college-aged kids who don't have much cash but want to party in Vegas.

Anyway, I get the idea that they have made some really poor management decisions at that place. They have gotten rid of everything that used to attract people.
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February 23rd, 2014 at 6:02:32 PM permalink
They had the Ghost Bar that was quite a few floors up, and they had a bar out in the pool area, for which I cannot remember the name. I had heard they had a plexiglass cover that was over the pool, so you could dance above the water. Not sure if I buy that one or not.
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February 23rd, 2014 at 6:11:23 PM permalink
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About half a year ago I was in Vegas, and a friend of mine was there as well. He had gotten comped at the Palms, and he was texting me complaining about how crappy and dead it was. I figured, oh, it's just early; it will pick up when it gets later at night. Anyway, in the evening I went over there to meet him and I had to admit that he was right. The place was completely dead.

I'm not exactly sure (I've only stayed at the Palms once, and only been there a few times) but I think that they used to have some nightclubs or something, that they got rid of now. The table limits were always pretty low, but it attracted a younger crowd with less money (a lot of college-age people... which also means lots of hot women). But when they got rid of the nightclubs the hot women stopped going, which of course meant that the college-aged guys stopped going, which totally killed the place.

As far as "low-roller", it's all relative of course. Their table limits were much lower than what I was used to. When I played MS Stud there, it was min $5, max $5 (I've never seen a table game with no gap between min and max before). Of course I've been to places with even lower limits. But I always got the idea that the Palms was mostly a mix of locals and college-aged kids who don't have much cash but want to party in Vegas.

Anyway, I get the idea that they have made some really poor management decisions at that place. They have gotten rid of everything that used to attract people.



I thought those bars were still there? I know the only one that closed (I think) is the Playboy club. They still have Moon and Rain and the Ghost Bar, I think.

Palms, along with both Rio and Hard Rock are just simply not ideally located. If you add that to poor offerings such as no good table game play and perhaps sub par restaurants you will struggle to draw a gambling crowd.

Ace, report back on Penn and Teller when you are done!!!
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February 23rd, 2014 at 7:19:49 PM permalink
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I thought those bars were still there? I know the only one that closed (I think) is the Playboy club. They still have Moon and Rain and the Ghost Bar, I think.

Palms, along with both Rio and Hard Rock are just simply not ideally located. If you add that to poor offerings such as no good table game play and perhaps sub par restaurants you will struggle to draw a gambling crowd.

Ace, report back on Penn and Teller when you are done!!!



Looking at the Palms website, yes, it appears they are still there, although I don't see the name of the pool bar. Perhaps that was Rain back then. Weren't these clubs the original places for celebs to hang out? Then some of the strip casinos got in on the action, and created better places to be seen?
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February 23rd, 2014 at 7:21:37 PM permalink
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I thought those bars were still there? I know the only one that closed (I think) is the Playboy club. They still have Moon and Rain and the Ghost Bar, I think.

Palms, along with both Rio and Hard Rock are just simply not ideally located. If you add that to poor offerings such as no good table game play and perhaps sub par restaurants you will struggle to draw a gambling crowd.

Ace, report back on Penn and Teller when you are done!!!



Actually, the one time I stayed there we went to the Italian restaurant (don't remember the name -- we had to go up an elevator to get to it) and the food was spectacular. It was a classy, expensive place with good food. I was a little bit surprised because none of the clientele on the casino floor seemed like people who would be into that -- like I said, more of the young drunk college-aged crowd who would be happy to grab a burrito from the mexican place (which was also actually not bad)

In other words, the food is the one thing at that place that's not sub-par :)
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February 23rd, 2014 at 7:23:45 PM permalink
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Looking at the Palms website, yes, it appears they are still there, although I don't see the name of the pool bar. Perhaps that was Rain back then. Weren't these clubs the original places for celebs to hang out? Then some of the strip casinos got in on the action, and created better places to be seen?



Come to think of it, I think that my friend mentioned that it had been featured on some reality TV show or something (I don't watch reality TV so I don't know the details) and I guess it had contributed to the popularity? Maybe its 15 minutes are up.

They also used to have the UFC Ultimate Fighter Finale there (that is why I would usually go -- my friend is a big UFC fan and he would stay there when they had that) and they got rid of it. It seemed like they would draw a decent crowd to that event.
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February 23rd, 2014 at 7:56:27 PM permalink
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Actually, the one time I stayed there we went to the Italian restaurant (don't remember the name -- we had to go up an elevator to get to it) and the food was spectacular. It was a classy, expensive place with good food. I was a little bit surprised because none of the clientele on the casino floor seemed like people who would be into that -- like I said, more of the young drunk college-aged crowd who would be happy to grab a burrito from the mexican place (which was also actually not bad)

In other words, the food is the one thing at that place that's not sub-par :)



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I thought those bars were still there? I know the only one that closed (I think) is the Playboy club. They still have Moon and Rain and the Ghost Bar, I think.

Palms, along with both Rio and Hard Rock are just simply not ideally located. If you add that to poor offerings such as no good table game play and perhaps sub par restaurants you will struggle to draw a gambling crowd.

Ace, report back on Penn and Teller when you are done!!!


Perhaps...i said perhaps :)
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February 23rd, 2014 at 8:02:19 PM permalink
The Palms was big several years back. I think the VMAs were even there one year. It's been in music videos, too.

But people always prefer the newest venues, and the Palms is a dozen years old now. It's still a nice place though. Lots of baccarat.
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