smoothgrh
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January 10th, 2018 at 9:10:44 AM permalink
My brother is currently staying at New York New York Casino and reported that the exciting news there was that the casino was robbed! I looked for a headline and saw that the casino cage was robbed! I was excited to read about an Ocean's 11-type caper heist, but it was merely a dude with possibly a handgun. Unsophisticated. Unimaginative. Not movie-worthy.

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2018/01/10/police-search-for-new-york-new-york-casino-robber/
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January 10th, 2018 at 4:41:54 PM permalink
"I didn't do it. I didn't hit that cage. Oh Hi, Mark".
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January 10th, 2018 at 5:05:16 PM permalink
I visited a small casino outside of Denver up in the Mountains
Its so old, cashier cage was no cage at all, just a short counter with really no security except a camera
I joked with the cashier how easy it would be to rob
She smiled and pointed to the occupied police car across the street. She said it sits there 24/7 and there is just 1 road off the mountain
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January 10th, 2018 at 5:07:07 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

I visited a small casino outside of Denver up in the Mountains
Its so old, cashier cage was no cage at all, just a short counter with really no security except a camera
I joked with the cashier how easy it would be to rob
She smiled and pointed to the occupied police car across the street. She said it sits there 24/7 and there is just 1 road off the mountain



Reminds me the of the Ben Affleck, Charlize Theron, and Lieutenant Dan movie.
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January 10th, 2018 at 5:07:56 PM permalink
I've been to Cripple Creek a couple of times quite a number of years ago. If I recall correctly, BACK THEN, the Blackjack was limited to $ 5 per hand. But like I say, it was a number of years ago, so don't quote me on that. #Fakenews
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RS
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January 10th, 2018 at 5:49:22 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

I've been to Cripple Creek a couple of times quite a number of years ago. If I recall correctly, BACK THEN, the Blackjack was limited to $ 5 per hand. But like I say, it was a number of years ago, so don't quote me on that. #Fakenews


Is the crippled creek the one where there are like donkeys and mules roaming around nearby? That's the one I imagined when terapined said he visited one in Colorado (if that's the one I'm thinking of). It's the first one on the way into "town". IIRC, it was $5 min and $100 max or maybe $200 max (although doesn't Colorado have a $100 max bet? Or maybe that's Minnesota?).


Edit: Seems like I've been to several casinos where there is no "cage" at the cashier. It's all open-like.
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January 10th, 2018 at 5:53:33 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Is the crippled creek the one where there are like donkeys and mules roaming around nearby? That's the one I imagined when terapined said he visited one in Colorado (if that's the one I'm thinking of). It's the first one on the way into "town". IIRC, it was $5 min and $100 max or maybe $200 max (although doesn't Colorado have a $100 max bet? Or maybe that's Minnesota?).


Edit: Seems like I've been to several casinos where there is no "cage" at the cashier. It's all open-like.



There used to be $5 max bets in Colorado but it changed to $100 in 2009.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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January 10th, 2018 at 6:44:01 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Is the crippled creek the one where there are like donkeys and mules roaming around nearby? That's the one I imagined when terapined said he visited one in Colorado (if that's the one I'm thinking of). It's the first one on the way into "town". IIRC, it was $5 min and $100 max or maybe $200 max (although doesn't Colorado have a $100 max bet? Or maybe that's Minnesota?).


Edit: Seems like I've been to several casinos where there is no "cage" at the cashier. It's all open-like.


It was the Golden Gulch Casino in Black Hawk. Its small, real small. New player sign up was 10 bucks in free play. I signed up and was amazed they gave me a 10 dollar bill. Could have walked out up 10 dollars. Thought about it but naw, i gave the 10 back by playing it out on some machine.
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January 10th, 2018 at 6:46:54 PM permalink
The lowered security wired-cage area is reassuring. The one road may be an effective deterrent but its no substitute for an alert security staff. I've seen cage areas with absurdly low chip levels but its a comfort to have things handled well.

No one wants gunplay in the casino. that is why security procedures are so strict.
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January 10th, 2018 at 7:00:40 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

The lowered security wired-cage area is reassuring. The one road may be an effective deterrent but its no substitute for an alert security staff. I've seen cage areas with absurdly low chip levels but its a comfort to have things handled well.

No one wants gunplay in the casino. that is why security procedures are so strict.



That cashiers counter at the Golden Gulch was not buried in the back of the casino but instead right by the glass doors exit.
That's why the cashier could easily point out the police car
I really did not notice chips but saw lots cash stacks at the back of the room in plain view.
I was amazed, just a short counter, lots of cash visible and right by the door.
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June 11th, 2020 at 2:33:04 PM permalink
It happened again
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June 11th, 2020 at 11:26:56 PM permalink
If there is only one mountain road, why risk a shootout in the casino? Give the robbers the money and set up a road block where there isn't a lot of civilians.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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June 12th, 2020 at 4:51:32 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

It happened again


So, his getaway plan was to go to MGM? Danny Ocean, he ain't! I wonder if he was apprehended while gambling the money he just stole?
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June 12th, 2020 at 4:53:27 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman

Quote: ThatDonGuy

It happened again


So, his getaway plan was to go to MGM? Danny Ocean, he ain't! I wonder if he was apprehended while gambling the money he just stole?



A few years ago two guys robbed a rack at a blackjack table at Mohegan CT and ran out the nearby exit making their escape. The casino ran back the surveillance cameras and saw that when they entered the casino, the first thing they did was swipe their player's cards at the entrance kiosk. The police ended up at their house before they did.,

Many years ago my sister was a bank teller who was robbed. During the robbery one of the other employees sighted the getaway car and noted the registration. Turned out the robbers needed the cash to buy a brand new Cadillac. How do we know this? Because the getaway car and a shiny new Sedan deVille were in the robber's driveway when the cops arrived about an hour later.

George Clooney is playing none of these losers in the movie.
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June 12th, 2020 at 8:16:33 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

If there is only one mountain road, why risk a shootout in the casino? Give the robbers the money and set up a road block where there isn't a lot of civilians.



Depending on the type of bike,a motorcycle would have a better chance getting away.
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June 12th, 2020 at 9:38:11 PM permalink
A wing suit!
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June 12th, 2020 at 9:39:20 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Depending on the type of bike,a motorcycle would have a better chance getting away.



You mean like this guy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/bellagio-bandit-how-one-man-robbed-vegas-biggest-casino-and-almost-got-away-105349/amp/
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June 12th, 2020 at 11:32:25 PM permalink
Quote: racquet

Quote: Joeman

Quote: ThatDonGuy

It happened again


So, his getaway plan was to go to MGM? Danny Ocean, he ain't! I wonder if he was apprehended while gambling the money he just stole?



A few years ago two guys robbed a rack at a blackjack table at Mohegan CT and ran out the nearby exit making their escape. The casino ran back the surveillance cameras and saw that when they entered the casino, the first thing they did was swipe their player's cards at the entrance kiosk. The police ended up at their house before they did.,

You have got to be joking.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 13th, 2020 at 8:29:03 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: racquet

Quote: Joeman

Quote: ThatDonGuy

It happened again


So, his getaway plan was to go to MGM? Danny Ocean, he ain't! I wonder if he was apprehended while gambling the money he just stole?



A few years ago two guys robbed a rack at a blackjack table at Mohegan CT and ran out the nearby exit making their escape. The casino ran back the surveillance cameras and saw that when they entered the casino, the first thing they did was swipe their player's cards at the entrance kiosk. The police ended up at their house before they did.,

You have got to be joking.



When they get out of prison they have $10 in free play available to them.
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June 13th, 2020 at 10:06:29 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: racquet

Quote: Joeman

Quote: ThatDonGuy

It happened again


So, his getaway plan was to go to MGM? Danny Ocean, he ain't! I wonder if he was apprehended while gambling the money he just stole?



A few years ago two guys robbed a rack at a blackjack table at Mohegan CT and ran out the nearby exit making their escape. The casino ran back the surveillance cameras and saw that when they entered the casino, the first thing they did was swipe their player's cards at the entrance kiosk. The police ended up at their house before they did.,

You have got to be joking.



Imagine if they were multi-carders who did the robbery and some other dudes we're arrested
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June 13th, 2020 at 2:24:15 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

You mean like this guy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/bellagio-bandit-how-one-man-robbed-vegas-biggest-casino-and-almost-got-away-105349/amp/



Yes. The only reason why he got caught was because he got stupid and desperate trying to get rid of chips that were frozen from the casino. Chips $5000 or less he could have cashed without any question assuming he was a known player which he was.
BedWetterBetter
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June 14th, 2020 at 2:08:54 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: racquet

Quote: Joeman

Quote: ThatDonGuy

It happened again


So, his getaway plan was to go to MGM? Danny Ocean, he ain't! I wonder if he was apprehended while gambling the money he just stole?



A few years ago two guys robbed a rack at a blackjack table at Mohegan CT and ran out the nearby exit making their escape. The casino ran back the surveillance cameras and saw that when they entered the casino, the first thing they did was swipe their player's cards at the entrance kiosk. The police ended up at their house before they did.,

You have got to be joking.



Imagine if they were multi-carders who did the robbery and some other dudes we're arrested



Pretty sure they would coordinate the info with the police and cross check the surveillance footage with DMV photo ID or criminal records(if applicable) before pursuing an arrest. At worst, they would be questioned if they know the suspects and could simply claim their player card was misplaced.
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June 14th, 2020 at 2:10:10 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Yes. The only reason why he got caught was because he got stupid and desperate trying to get rid of chips that were frozen from the casino. Chips $5000 or less he could have cashed without any question assuming he was a known player which he was.



I like how they say in some of these robbery stories, the Casino won't confirm or deny the use of magnetic tracking devices in the chips.
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June 14th, 2020 at 2:22:40 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

I like how they say in some of these robbery stories, the Casino won't confirm or deny the use of magnetic tracking devices in the chips.



Its common knowledge that they are tracked with a small chip, at least the larger denominations, but only in the casino. Doesn't work outside of the casino.
BedWetterBetter
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June 14th, 2020 at 7:17:26 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Its common knowledge that they are tracked with a small chip, at least the larger denominations, but only in the casino. Doesn't work outside of the casino.



Exactly, why feign ignorance of a known fact? Almost as if admitting the truth would get them in trouble somehow?
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