Cost of becoming a Seven Stars player with the new TR system
July 13th, 2013 at 6:00:41 PM
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Can the tier credits be earned in more then one casino for the daily tier credit bonus, ie. 1250 tier credits at Horseshoe Indiana and 1250 credits at Horseshoe Cincinnati on the same day for the 5000 tier credit bonus? If not, can you get 2500 tier credits at one casino and 2500 tier credits at another casino on the same day for two 5000 tier credit bonuses?
gambling problem? split tens!
July 13th, 2013 at 6:17:50 PM
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Quote: supermaxhdCan the tier credits be earned in more then one casino for the daily tier credit bonus, ie. 1250 tier credits at Horseshoe Indiana and 1250 credits at Horseshoe Cincinnati on the same day for the 5000 tier credit bonus? If not, can you get 2500 tier credits at one casino and 2500 tier credits at another casino on the same day for two 5000 tier credit bonuses?
I'm pretty sure that's a no and no. The last one is a definite no as it's written on CET's website "Only 1 Tier Bonus per day".
July 13th, 2013 at 8:25:09 PM
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Quote: supermaxhdCan the tier credits be earned in more then one casino for the daily tier credit bonus, ie. 1250 tier credits at Horseshoe Indiana and 1250 credits at Horseshoe Cincinnati on the same day for the 5000 tier credit bonus? If not, can you get 2500 tier credits at one casino and 2500 tier credits at another casino on the same day for two 5000 tier credit bonuses?
That's an interesting question.
Quote: tringlomaneI'm pretty sure that's a no and no. The last one is a definite no as it's written on CET's website "Only 1 Tier Bonus per day".
While there may be one bonus per day that doesn't mean you couldnt earn at more than one casino. Take for example the situation in Vegas. Do you think CET would penalize players who play at Caesars and then go across the street to Flamingo and then hop over to Paris?
No... I'm going to say multiple casino play is A-OK but you only get ONE bonus. So if you earn 2500 tier points at Caesars and then 2500 tier points at Paris in the same day you only get ONE 5,000 bonus.
July 13th, 2013 at 9:22:38 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonThat's an interesting question.
While there may be one bonus per day that doesn't mean you couldnt earn at more than one casino. Take for example the situation in Vegas. Do you think CET would penalize players who play at Caesars and then go across the street to Flamingo and then hop over to Paris?
No... I'm going to say multiple casino play is A-OK but you only get ONE bonus. So if you earn 2500 tier points at Caesars and then 2500 tier points at Paris in the same day you only get ONE 5,000 bonus.
Yeah, that one I am definitely unsure of. I would be trying to ask the most knowledgeable employee I could find though before trying. Part of it that makes me question that is that CET computer systems aren't nearly as connected as they should be.
July 13th, 2013 at 10:03:08 PM
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I play at Rincon in San Diego and Caesars in Vegas and within 24 hours whereever I play the points will show up on my online Caesars account. Ive also used reward credits earned at either casino to purchase free play at both casinos. The system works well, I think.
July 14th, 2013 at 11:21:01 AM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonI play at Rincon in San Diego and Caesars in Vegas and within 24 hours whereever I play the points will show up on my online Caesars account. Ive also used reward credits earned at either casino to purchase free play at both casinos. The system works well, I think.
I've been getting a ton of free slot play and gifts at Horseshoe Indiana and Cincinnati making it worth the two hour drive each way or sometimes 5 hours to make the loop, Louisville to Cincinnati and back home to Lexington. Its kind of like having girlfriends in three cities. It's hard on a guy!
I went to Horseshoe Indiana this morning for the free VIP gift (I took the 15,000 RC instead), I played VP and won a little and earned 391 tier credits. This evening I will go to Cincinnati for $245 free slot play before midnight, another $245 free slot play after midnight if I decide to wait but tomorrow is a work day.
The free slot play works on VP at Cincinnati but not at Horseshoe Indiana (near Louisville).
gambling problem? split tens!
July 14th, 2013 at 1:31:46 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQFrom the Wiz's other site, it looks like the 5 "coin" Royal Flush is 0.3 % of the
payback.
NOTE:
But at Windsor, it takes $ 80.00 coin-in to earn 1 tier credit instead of
$ 10 for the 99.95 pickem. The machines have a label on them that
says that. So I don't think Windsor is the place to try and "level up"
your Total Rewards.
since when? I was back home a week ago playing the vp machines at Caesars and not once did I see any sticker on any machine saying $80 for 1 point
as a matter of fact ever second hand played was good for 1 point ($10 per point)
July 14th, 2013 at 2:02:58 PM
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July 14th, 2013 at 9:55:38 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesA friend of mine who frequents Windsor also says its $80 for 1 point on those Pick 'Em games.
Again I have never seen any sticker or sign saying such a thing. I played a whole lot of Pick'em ddb and tdb while I was home the first weekend of May. I have sent off a request to one of the casino hosts in Windsor and will let you know what his reply is
BTW checking on Total rewards it states video poker $10 per point
July 14th, 2013 at 11:07:17 PM
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Quote: supermaxhdThis evening I will go to Cincinnati for $245 free slot play before midnight, another $245 free slot play after midnight if I decide to wait but tomorrow is a work day.
Rincon in San Diego used to have offers that would start and end at midnight. So I would show up at 11pm and use one day's free play and then after midnight use the next day's free play.
Then Rincon wised up and changed its rules so that free play starts at 8-am till midnight each day. And because of that I can't redeem as much free play as I used to during the month.
In July I have free play offers on 25 days of the 31 days of the month. Because of the "redemption blackout" from midnight till 8-am I severely limited in the number of offers I could redeem. Rincon is about a 90-minute drive for me late at night when there is no traffic.
July 15th, 2013 at 7:13:21 PM
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Quote: coilmansince when? I was back home a week ago playing the vp machines at Caesars and not once did I see any sticker on any machine saying $80 for 1 point
As someone else pointed out, the $ 80 per Tier Credit point was JUST for the 99.95 % pickem video poker. There were some machines up against the wall sortof near the high limit area if I recall correctly.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
July 15th, 2013 at 8:09:07 PM
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I would love to see a photo of a sign that says there is a VP machine that requires $80 for one tier point.
July 15th, 2013 at 8:46:42 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonI would love to see a photo of a sign that says there is a VP machine that requires $80 for one tier point.
Not a Harrah's property, but Majestic Star in the Chicagoland area, has $100 coin-in per point signs on machines that offer 9/6 JoB and NSUD. I don't have a photo though.
July 15th, 2013 at 9:04:30 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneNot a Harrah's property, but Majestic Star in the Chicagoland area, has $100 coin-in per point signs on machines that offer 9/6 JoB and NSUD. I don't have a photo though.
Okay, that might be, but I am concerned about some variation in the rules with Caesars properties.
According to Total Rewards its $10 for one tier credit. If there is an exception to that I'd like to see the photo.
July 15th, 2013 at 10:05:51 PM
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This one game at this one CET casino is the only exception to that rule I have ever heard of. VPFree2 notes the exception as well.
July 15th, 2013 at 11:33:59 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneThis one game at this one CET casino is the only exception to that rule I have ever heard of. VPFree2 notes the exception as well.
I'd love to see a photo so that I can present it to Total Rewards chiefs and get an explanation.
July 16th, 2013 at 12:20:51 AM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonI'd love to see a photo so that I can present it to Total Rewards chiefs and get an explanation.
Personally I wouldn't give them any fuel to possibly downgrade that machine just so they can offer "full comps" on it. They might tell you the truth though; they don't want 100%+ VP after Reward Credits are factored in (even though it does exist in a few markets already).
July 16th, 2013 at 1:31:13 AM
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The point is the TR rules are supposed to be uniform. If there is an exception, somebody is getting cheated. Even if that game is a near 100% game there is still a house edge and there is no reason for the casino to jack up the tier point requiirements. Those players are getting cheated.
At Rincon there are also some full pay machines that along with comps and cash back and multipliers and free play give you 100% or better and there is no penalty there for tier points.
At Rincon there are also some full pay machines that along with comps and cash back and multipliers and free play give you 100% or better and there is no penalty there for tier points.
July 16th, 2013 at 7:34:55 AM
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July 16th, 2013 at 7:37:41 AM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesThe casino in question is in Canada and not owned by Caesars, they just operate it.
Caesars does not own Rincon -- it's an Indian casino -- but Caesars operates it and all of the Total Rewards rules work there and all of the TR points earned at Rincon work the same way in Vegas.
Does this casino in Canada operate under the Caesars/Total Rewards banner? Then if it does it should have the same rules.
July 16th, 2013 at 7:42:14 AM
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How do the professionals handle the Indiana state taxes on taxable jackpots?Quote: tringlomaneYes, this is correct, and I believe $20 per tier right for rapid roulette as well (but not positive). With this in mind, one of the easiest/fastest ways to get to 7 Stars is at Horseshoe Hammond. They have 99.96% video poker for as high as $500 per hand.
http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/horseshoe-hammond
July 16th, 2013 at 8:05:45 AM
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July 16th, 2013 at 9:02:43 AM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonOkay, that might be, but I am concerned about some variation in the rules with Caesars properties.
According to Total Rewards its $10 for one tier credit. If there is an exception to that I'd like to see the photo.
Caesars AC has a $20 for 1 sign on the Video Roulette machines. I will take a picture for you on my next visit.
July 16th, 2013 at 2:01:30 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesIts Casino Windsor and I don't think they don't have to have the same rules.
Ok the great Casino host from Windsor did a little work for me and sent this reply
Although this is not my area of expertise, I did reach out to the slot department for you and I will try to answer you the best I can! The best thing to do next time you are in is to ask a slot attendant or slot supervisor they are the best people to answer this for you!
So this is what I could find out…….
We do have a certain bank of machines that does have a disclaimer on it stating $80 is required to earn 1 Tier Score. These are currently the only machines in the building that have Blackjack on them. So I’m not sure what bank of machines you were playing but once again, next time you are in, I would advise that you ask someone which bank of machines you are asking about, in case you are looking to avoid these machines.
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There is one bank of machines just outside the entrance to the HIGH ROLLERS area that I never play at.... this must be the ones. located in a high traffic walkway area between those machines and the video roulette table
the PICK EM I play has the following payouts
10,000, 1200, 600, 90, 75 , 50, 20, 15, 10
July 16th, 2013 at 2:21:33 PM
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July 16th, 2013 at 2:51:16 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesI don't think thats full pay pick 'em.
Full pay is 6000, 1199, 600, 90, 75, 55, 25, 15, 10.
Oh that's the AMERICAN version with the $1199 payoff so no taxes LOL
Next trip back in a few months I will snap a photo and check that bank of machines out to see if that's the case
July 16th, 2013 at 2:59:00 PM
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July 16th, 2013 at 6:26:19 PM
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I am pretty sure Ballys in AC has some $20 per point VP machines.
July 17th, 2013 at 10:09:24 AM
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Bally's 3 play VP machines are $20 for 1 point. They have a plaque below the bill inserter that states that. It is the only place I know that does that for CET, which I think is a rip off.
July 17th, 2013 at 11:10:57 AM
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Quote: JIMMYFOCKERHow do the professionals handle the Indiana state taxes on taxable jackpots?
This is a good point, and since I am not a pro, I really don't know the best way. Avoiding states that don't let you write off state taxes from w2-g's with losses would definitely be ideal. But If you played something 5-play $1 DW44 though, you could pull off 2500 Tier/day with not tons of time effort per day, and ~minimal state tax exposure (usually only toward Royals hit, and your average # of Royals in 100,000 hands is barely above 2). That's $136 per Royal (3.4%), so it might be closer to $600 lost than $200 on average when 50,000 Tier is earned, but it's still one of the "cheapest" ways to get it. And that's if you just forfeit the tax fight. Jean Scott was able to succeed in recent years in getting a "refund" since she filed as a "professional gambler". It's still a better option than doing 9/6 JoB in Vegas for sure.
http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=1199
July 25th, 2013 at 10:02:57 AM
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Ok Alan, now go to CET and complain. All full-pay in Vegas has moved to $25/tier credit it looks like.
http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/caesars-palace-las-vegas
Hopefully Rincon and others doesn't get this "bright" idea.
http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/caesars-palace-las-vegas
Hopefully Rincon and others doesn't get this "bright" idea.
July 27th, 2013 at 8:49:07 AM
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Quote: supermaxhdCan the tier credits be earned in more then one casino for the daily tier credit bonus, ie. 1250 tier credits at Horseshoe Indiana and 1250 credits at Horseshoe Cincinnati on the same day for the 5000 tier credit bonus? If not, can you get 2500 tier credits at one casino and 2500 tier credits at another casino on the same day for two 5000 tier credit bonuses?
Yes to your first question. Absolutely. I typically take advantage of the 2500 TCs per day if I'm in AC on a multiplier day, mixing it up $5 9/6 JoB at Harrahs (my favorite CET casino) and $5 8/5 BP at Ballys, often with a little play thrown it at Caesars too (though highest full pay is just $2 9/6 JoB). I do this to take advantage of various other offers like freeplay and dining from each property on those days, plus I just like changing it up and my gf likes to hit the outlet shops near the boardwalk. The 5000 bonus always applies, it is just based on a total of 2500 TCs earned at CET properties in a single gaming day.
No, you can not earn more than one bonus per day.
July 27th, 2013 at 3:20:30 PM
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I've read all 19 pages of this thread and the same thing keeps popping up. Everyone is using their employment income to support the quest for 7*. It would make sense to me to bankroll your VP play using a table game that you are good at. I know not every player like table games or are good at winning, but I can't be the only person here who has hours and hours of video winning and cashing out after playing some table game on file at casinos around the country.
It's very rare for a player to rise up a tier without losing money. Yes, I've read the posts here where people walked away with a profit after upping a tier playing VP, or in the least after earning enough TC to have gone up a level if they were Gold and not Diamond. I'm interested in Diamond in a Day, but I haven't found the promotion at the TR website. Last year it took 4000 TC in one day.
Diamond Tier III seems have off good benefits that you can use EVERY DAY!
$750 for airfare
Free transport to casino within 50 miles
Waive check and credit advance fees
I read the faq's and found this. People are confused whether or not they can earn the bonus TC at more than one casino in a day.
"If I play at several Total Rewards casinos in one day, will I be awarded a Tier Credit bonus on my cumulative Tier Credit earnings?"
"Yes! You will be awarded a Tier Credit bonus based on your total daily Tier Credit earnings, no matter how many different Total Rewards casinos you visit in one day!"
I hope to do well with my blackjack so I can attempt Diamond in a day. Once I hit Platinum, I'll no longer have the opportunity to diamond up in a day.
If anyone knows for a fact that I can get Diamond in a Day winning 4000 or 5000 TC in 24 hours. Let me know please.
As usual I enjoyed the read and the real life stories.
Good Luck!
It's very rare for a player to rise up a tier without losing money. Yes, I've read the posts here where people walked away with a profit after upping a tier playing VP, or in the least after earning enough TC to have gone up a level if they were Gold and not Diamond. I'm interested in Diamond in a Day, but I haven't found the promotion at the TR website. Last year it took 4000 TC in one day.
Diamond Tier III seems have off good benefits that you can use EVERY DAY!
$750 for airfare
Free transport to casino within 50 miles
Waive check and credit advance fees
I read the faq's and found this. People are confused whether or not they can earn the bonus TC at more than one casino in a day.
"If I play at several Total Rewards casinos in one day, will I be awarded a Tier Credit bonus on my cumulative Tier Credit earnings?"
"Yes! You will be awarded a Tier Credit bonus based on your total daily Tier Credit earnings, no matter how many different Total Rewards casinos you visit in one day!"
I hope to do well with my blackjack so I can attempt Diamond in a day. Once I hit Platinum, I'll no longer have the opportunity to diamond up in a day.
If anyone knows for a fact that I can get Diamond in a Day winning 4000 or 5000 TC in 24 hours. Let me know please.
As usual I enjoyed the read and the real life stories.
Good Luck!
Buffering...
July 27th, 2013 at 11:21:59 PM
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I hit a royal today. It was literally forty minutes after a guy popped the progressive at $4700. So I got it at reset (well, $4028). I can't complain.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
July 29th, 2013 at 10:13:59 PM
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I hit another royal today. Yes, three days after the one above. Also at reset. Things are going well.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
July 29th, 2013 at 10:20:35 PM
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Quote: teddysI hit another royal today. Yes, three days after the one above. Also at reset. Things are going well.
Nice hits!!
November 25th, 2013 at 9:28:52 AM
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I am up to 285,000 tier credits. I usually stop on each day when I get to 2500 tier credits for the daily bonus. Playing mostly $2 or $5 job, some 9/6 some 9/5 and I still have not hit my first Royal and losing a lot at VP but having a pretty amazing year playing blackjack to win my money back each trip after losing at VP. I figure I will keep going until I get my first Royal or have a couple of wipeouts back to back.
I've collected about $3000 in reward credits along the way that I plan to use when I take my annual retreat in January. One thing I have really noticed is I am no longer getting some of the better invitation only mail such as the premium VIP gift giveaways (or 15,000 reward credits) and no longer getting invites to some of the drawings. Anyone else running into getting cut back on the offers after getting seven stars?
I've collected about $3000 in reward credits along the way that I plan to use when I take my annual retreat in January. One thing I have really noticed is I am no longer getting some of the better invitation only mail such as the premium VIP gift giveaways (or 15,000 reward credits) and no longer getting invites to some of the drawings. Anyone else running into getting cut back on the offers after getting seven stars?
gambling problem? split tens!
November 25th, 2013 at 4:57:52 PM
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What levels/rewards do you hit after 150,000 tier credits?
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
November 25th, 2013 at 5:46:56 PM
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Since getting my seven stars card I have not had any problem getting a free room whenever I want. My host has given me tickets to Huey Lewis, Alice Cooper, $150 credit for a birthday dinner. Last weekend I was given a comp of $160 at Margaretville for 4. Upcoming In January I have my annual retreat booked for Caesars Palace Las Vegas and my host was able to get me a second room for my friends. The annual retreat includes air fare for 2, airport limo service (I think) a $500 celebration dinner and some other perks. I plan to convert my reward credits into free play during that trip. My HorseShoe casino hosts have been great.
HorseShoe Cincinnati sent me about $7000 in free slot play coupons to use every 3-4 days spread over June and July. This was not long after they opened and my casino host said there was a very large marketing budget for that. Now I get $50 coupons to use every 3-4 days from Cincinnati and a little more from HorseShoe Southern Indiana. The $50 coupons now are not worth the 2 hour drive just for the free play.
For a level II experience at 200,000 reward credits I think I will take a $500 shopping spree at the forum shops at Caesars when I go for my annual retreat.
I have been only playing when I knew I could commit to getting the full 2500 tier credits in a day. I was taking advantage of all of the monthly premium VIP gift giveaways for Cincinnati and Louisville (like designer sunglasses or 15,000 reward credits, both casinos would have the same offers). I always took the reward credits. I stopped getting these invitations. It was hard for me not to go play my free slot play and pick up the free reward credits on work nights and play for my 2500 tier credits on those days. I would go just for the $600-800 free play coupons and leave. I did that several times and now I don't get those large offers and some other VIP tournament offers and drawings. Free slot play in Cincinnati can be used on video poker but in Louisville only on slots. My suspicion is that my going just for the free play and freebies is what has caused some of my offers to get cut off. My hosts wont say why.
Two hour trips to Cincinnati or Louisville have put a lot of miles on my car this year.
Since VP has been so unkind to me I am not sure I will attempt this again next year. I need to hit my first Royal Flush soon. I am told I have my seven stars status now through March 31, 2015.
HorseShoe Cincinnati sent me about $7000 in free slot play coupons to use every 3-4 days spread over June and July. This was not long after they opened and my casino host said there was a very large marketing budget for that. Now I get $50 coupons to use every 3-4 days from Cincinnati and a little more from HorseShoe Southern Indiana. The $50 coupons now are not worth the 2 hour drive just for the free play.
For a level II experience at 200,000 reward credits I think I will take a $500 shopping spree at the forum shops at Caesars when I go for my annual retreat.
I have been only playing when I knew I could commit to getting the full 2500 tier credits in a day. I was taking advantage of all of the monthly premium VIP gift giveaways for Cincinnati and Louisville (like designer sunglasses or 15,000 reward credits, both casinos would have the same offers). I always took the reward credits. I stopped getting these invitations. It was hard for me not to go play my free slot play and pick up the free reward credits on work nights and play for my 2500 tier credits on those days. I would go just for the $600-800 free play coupons and leave. I did that several times and now I don't get those large offers and some other VIP tournament offers and drawings. Free slot play in Cincinnati can be used on video poker but in Louisville only on slots. My suspicion is that my going just for the free play and freebies is what has caused some of my offers to get cut off. My hosts wont say why.
Two hour trips to Cincinnati or Louisville have put a lot of miles on my car this year.
Since VP has been so unkind to me I am not sure I will attempt this again next year. I need to hit my first Royal Flush soon. I am told I have my seven stars status now through March 31, 2015.
gambling problem? split tens!
November 25th, 2013 at 6:27:17 PM
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All this tier nonsense baffles me when it comes to gamblers. Who cares what level you're at, as long as you win and or have a fun time? There's a lot about seven stars and diamond at CET being talked about on vpfree and one other board besides this one, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why people accept all the losing associated with the higher tier cards. What's that, no one loses? Then when does CETclose its doors?
November 25th, 2013 at 7:47:38 PM
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Hey supermax, has Southern Indiana replaced their VP with the new IGT machines yet? They are mostly replaced in Tunica, and there are very few 9/6 JoB left. :( None of the new units have them. The best those offer for dollars is 9/7 DB and 9/6 DDB.
November 25th, 2013 at 8:07:15 PM
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I was just there Saturday night. The machines in the high limit area, no. The bank of $2 credit machines near the 4th floor bar, yes. I didn't look at DDB. I don't know the DDB strategy. The bonus poker had been downgraded on the new machine I played from 8/5 to 7/5. . One of the machines in that bank, and I think only one had 9/6 job that I played all night. In the same bank next to the machine I played on the job was 8/5. Previously all job $2 and up at Southern Indiana 9/6 did not exist, I hope they keep it.
What I did not find on the new machines was a "double up" option, which I played often there.
The second floor had a bank of new machines open and two banks in place but not turned on.
HorseShoe Cincinnati (new casino last spring) has 9/6 job at $2, $5 and $10 credit but (I believe), no 8/5 bonus poker, no 'double up'.
Cincinnati keeping 9/6 job since they opened gives me hope that Sothern Indiana will keep it (or maybe the one machine I found it on is a mistake).
What I did not find on the new machines was a "double up" option, which I played often there.
The second floor had a bank of new machines open and two banks in place but not turned on.
HorseShoe Cincinnati (new casino last spring) has 9/6 job at $2, $5 and $10 credit but (I believe), no 8/5 bonus poker, no 'double up'.
Cincinnati keeping 9/6 job since they opened gives me hope that Sothern Indiana will keep it (or maybe the one machine I found it on is a mistake).
gambling problem? split tens!
November 25th, 2013 at 11:06:49 PM
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I have been very lucky this year and have hit three royals at the dollar level. So I have limited my losses greatly. I also got lots of free play from Horseshoe Cincinnati (not as much as you) and redeemed it all. I stand at 115,000 tier credits and I'll hit 150,000 and Seven Stars on my comped trip to San Diego I'm getting for the Level III experience. I agree the HorseShoe hosts are great. I have one in Cleveland (Michael) and one in Cincinnati (JoAnn). Free tickets to any show in Cincy (Penn & Teller, Ron White, etc.) Free nights at the 21c Museum Hotel which is one of the best hotels in the country.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
November 26th, 2013 at 1:47:40 AM
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Quote: tournamentkingAll this tier nonsense baffles me when it comes to gamblers. Who cares what level you're at, as long as you win and or have a fun time? There's a lot about seven stars and diamond at CET being talked about on vpfree and one other board besides this one, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why people accept all the losing associated with the higher tier cards. What's that, no one loses? Then when does CETclose its doors?
Why do people assume that higher-tier 7 stars players must lose? You can win and still get to higher levels. Even if you don't win, you can come close to winning and still get extra benefits from 7 stars that make up for the small losses.
the bottom line for everyone is that you should never play for comps... but while you're playing take all the comps you can get.
November 26th, 2013 at 4:19:05 AM
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There must not be many 7 Stars grinders in Atlantic City, because anyone could have taken advantage of the weekly 10X comp days (and even some 15X and 20X days) for the past 5 months, played 20 sessions at $0.25 or $1 denominations (full pay Jacks or Better, Bonus Poker progressive machines) to earn their 2,500 tier points each day.
They would come out ahead by about $2,000 to $3,000 just by running $500K through the machines, and converting their $5,000+ earned comps into $4,000+ free slot play (1.25 to 1 conversion for 7 Stars).
This is ignoring all other benefits (cashback, mailers, rooms, 7 Stars and Diamond lounge access, three annual retreats, gifts, $100 and $500 dining coupons, cruise, signature events, etc.)
In fact, if you were really frugal and had a lot of time on your hands, you could play that single line quarter Double Joker Poker progressive game at Caesars (which returns over 100%). Play 24 hours each session during 10X multiplier days, 20 sessions... voila! A shiny 7 Stars card for you and a companion and $5,000+ in comps! (I doubt anyone has ever done this, but it's theoretically possible.)
They would come out ahead by about $2,000 to $3,000 just by running $500K through the machines, and converting their $5,000+ earned comps into $4,000+ free slot play (1.25 to 1 conversion for 7 Stars).
This is ignoring all other benefits (cashback, mailers, rooms, 7 Stars and Diamond lounge access, three annual retreats, gifts, $100 and $500 dining coupons, cruise, signature events, etc.)
In fact, if you were really frugal and had a lot of time on your hands, you could play that single line quarter Double Joker Poker progressive game at Caesars (which returns over 100%). Play 24 hours each session during 10X multiplier days, 20 sessions... voila! A shiny 7 Stars card for you and a companion and $5,000+ in comps! (I doubt anyone has ever done this, but it's theoretically possible.)
November 26th, 2013 at 4:45:55 AM
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I try to play on the give away days. Haven't won anything big. I have won a $200 gas card, a $250 gas card, a vegas trip (that I took $400 free slot play instead), a TV where I drew a card out of a barrel and got a 32" LG LED (the 60" would have been sweet).
gambling problem? split tens!
November 26th, 2013 at 5:21:35 AM
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I'm a lowly platinum player at CET...so 7 stars is way out of my league. But I thought the 5x, 10x whatever bonus days only applied to "reward credits", not your "tier credits". Am I wrong about that? I go to AC pretty frequently but don't chase the bounus multipliers much if at all. Maybe I should be.
For those that don't know...Reward credits can be redeemed for food, merchandise, whatever. Your tier credits are what determine your level of card. It takes 5000 TC to get to platinum and 15K to get to diamond and 150K to get to 7stars.
Hopefully I haven't been missing an opportunity. But knowing me I have.
For those that don't know...Reward credits can be redeemed for food, merchandise, whatever. Your tier credits are what determine your level of card. It takes 5000 TC to get to platinum and 15K to get to diamond and 150K to get to 7stars.
Hopefully I haven't been missing an opportunity. But knowing me I have.
November 26th, 2013 at 6:03:39 AM
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Quote: vendman1I'm a lowly platinum player at CET...so 7 stars is way out of my league. But I thought the 5x, 10x whatever bonus days only applied to "reward credits", not your "tier credits". Am I wrong about that? I go to AC pretty frequently but don't chase the bounus multipliers much if at all. Maybe I should be.
For those that don't know...Reward credits can be redeemed for food, merchandise, whatever. Your tier credits are what determine your level of card. It takes 5000 TC to get to platinum and 15K to get to diamond and 150K to get to 7stars.
Hopefully I haven't been missing an opportunity. But knowing me I have.
Right, comps are reward credits. If you take 20 trips, and earn 2,500 reward credits each trip, you get credited with 25,000 reward credits and 7,500 tier credits for each trip. So you would have $5,000 in comps (500K reward credits) and 150K in tier credits when all is said and done.
I wish 10X was applied to your tier score as well... then you could achieve 7 Stars status in just a day or two.
November 26th, 2013 at 6:31:02 AM
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Also, there was once a way to burn out your 7 Star status in Atlantic City (and have your membership status revoked, or not renewed for the following year). In exchange, you could make up to $50K cash, risk free.
The play involved converting generic $20 DirectBet coupons (basically a one time use chip for table games) into an equivalent amount of free slot play at the cashier. Each coupon you convert into FSP, you made about $10. There was no limit to how many coupons you could convert, as long as you were 7 Stars.
In any given day, there were about 600 to 1,000 new DirectBet coupons floating around. You do the math.
The play involved converting generic $20 DirectBet coupons (basically a one time use chip for table games) into an equivalent amount of free slot play at the cashier. Each coupon you convert into FSP, you made about $10. There was no limit to how many coupons you could convert, as long as you were 7 Stars.
In any given day, there were about 600 to 1,000 new DirectBet coupons floating around. You do the math.
November 26th, 2013 at 7:22:39 AM
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It is difficult to earn 2,500 points per day even on $1 VP. I mean time-wise; It can take four to six hours on single line. So you kind of have to have an iron butt or take frequent breaks. Either way, you pretty much have to spend a whole day at the casino. I can't imagine doing on $0.25 VP, where it would take four times as long.
Horseshoe Cincinnati was giving back way, way more than expected loss in free play for a few months there. I think I might have seen you there on the $5 9/6 JOB, Chauncey ;)
Horseshoe Cincinnati was giving back way, way more than expected loss in free play for a few months there. I think I might have seen you there on the $5 9/6 JOB, Chauncey ;)
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
