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MDawg
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July 5th, 2025 at 3:50:47 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

My take is that the market on the Strip has changed. It changed before. Pre-Wynn maybe you went once in a lifetime unless you lived in CA. Then it was the place DINK couples went often. Today it seems to be based on one of three draws, being come to see sports, conventions, and Asian travelers. And it now has a Disney problem of too many lower-end guests taking spots that higher spenders could take. So they keep squeezing on price. Yet record crowds still come so they keep squeezing.

Am I the only one feels this way?
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No one I know feels that way. No one I know would even agree with your assessments.

What are these assessments based on? Your having visited during those different periods (eras?) you mention, or just what you think?

True I do live in CA, but I have friends and associates who went a lot pre-Wynn, and still go a lot. And I run into people regularly who are not from CA who go a lot.

Could this be that mentality of, I stopped going to nightclubs, so must have everyone else as well? Of course it's a year old post of someone who hasn't been to Vegas in 21 years?

One thing I do hear is that the old Vegas was better, but what defines old Vegas depends on your age. Someone my age might define old Vegas as the end of the 90s. Someone else might view it as the 70s, or even before that.
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July 5th, 2025 at 4:00:41 PM permalink
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July 5th, 2025 at 4:00:43 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

The new ID rules for flying, combined with current political conditions, are keeping many people close to home right now.
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Not really. And realistically nobody who has a problem with ID or politics is going to be flying in to Vegas for a long weekend.

https://www.transtats.bts.gov/traffic/

We did lose two major casinos in the past year, the Mirage and the Trop, nothing has replaced them yet, so that would explain at least some of the decrease,

From what I personally observe, the only places on the Strip that are dead are the ones south of MGM; Excalibur, Luxor, and Mandalay Bay. It seems that where the monorail stops, the world ends.
dcjohn
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July 5th, 2025 at 4:50:57 PM permalink
I completely agree with you. What used to be a fairly subtle scam industry has turned into all out fleecing. I blame the gamblers who put up with it (not the smart ones who know the odds matter and the overhead matters

The Disney comparison is insightful.
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