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April 4th, 2020 at 7:27:25 AM permalink
Given I now have a lot of time on my hands, I looked up what it would cost to buy Season Tickets, possibly as an AP opportunity.
I was absolutely stunned as to how much they are charging! Corner end zone lower, which I've sat in, and are basically "bad" seats, are $1850 a ticket, or around $230 a game for regular season games. You will have paid a measly $9,900 a seat for the "personal seat license" for the honor of buying the crappy seat for $230.

Naive me thought at the prices they list they will have trouble selling these seats.... until I checked and they are ALREADY SOLD OUT.

The 50 yard line lower bowl seats cost $75k for the PSL, and the tickets are $4500 for the season.

By the way, for those with a higher price point, there are "premium seats" in the 'loge' section, with each seat looking like an airplane first class seat, with your own TV screen. I think you have to call to get a price on those.

In some of the not so nice areas in the city of Buffalo, you can buy a real house for less than $75k. In Vegas, it gets you the right to buy a ticket in a single seat!

I think I did the math right.... At 70,000 seats, with an average PSL of say, 5,000, thats $350,000,000 or so? Plus around $20,000,000 per game (no idea what they get for suites, premium seats, etc...)

I'm wondering when the Bills play there, what I'll have to pay to get in the door? I won't care if the seats are the worst in the house... I'm guessing around $200? The lowest price seats are a tad under $100 not including the PSL, but there are only two sections that low....

Does anyone know if the PSL gives you yearly rights to buy seats for concerts, etc... or just NFL games?
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April 4th, 2020 at 8:47:47 AM permalink
What people keep paying for NFL tickets amazes me. Even if I had not been forced to disown my team and now the NFL is nothing but bets to me, I would not get it. I paid $100 for a ticket 20 years ago when I still cared, but that was a one time a season plan. To spend what people do on a PSL, then the tickets, then the parking, then a few beers and maybe food, insane.

Then you get treated like a criminal upon entry, some stadiums now ban binoculars now!

But people keep showing up.
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April 4th, 2020 at 9:21:11 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I'm wondering when the Bills play there, what I'll have to pay to get in the door? I won't care if the seats are the worst in the house... I'm guessing around $200? The lowest price seats are a tad under $100 not including the PSL, but there are only two sections that low....

Does anyone know if the PSL gives you yearly rights to buy seats for concerts, etc... or just NFL games?


You're in luck - assuming the NFL doesn't change the scheduling method (e.g. to shorten the season because of COVID-19), the Bills have a game in Vegas in 2020.

As for PSL rights, I'm pretty sure it's "no, unless you own a luxury box," although the Carolina Panthers do give PSL owners pre-sale rights to non-Panthers events at their stadium, but I don't think you can necessarily buy the same seat(s).
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April 4th, 2020 at 10:19:37 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

You're in luck - assuming the NFL doesn't change the scheduling method (e.g. to shorten the season because of COVID-19), the Bills have a game in Vegas in 2020.

As for PSL rights, I'm pretty sure it's "no, unless you own a luxury box," although the Carolina Panthers do give PSL owners pre-sale rights to non-Panthers events at their stadium, but I don't think you can necessarily buy the same seat(s).



I know the Bills play in Vegas. Probably will go with son, his GF, my wife (If its not in December), probably others from Buffalo. If it happens to coincide with Fall Fling that would be a treat.

Answering AZ, it really is ridiculous how expensive a ticket is. I got a free club ticket to a Bills game this year. Someone paid $300+ for it. In the club, which was crowded, I kept looking at each couple thinking "you have $700 to blow on this game?" I did a survey (like 4 questions) in the Club. Got me a $10 gift card. So I got a free medium Coke!
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What people keep paying for NFL tickets amazes me. Even if I had not been forced to disown my team and now the NFL is nothing but bets to me, I would not get it. I paid $100 for a ticket 20 years ago when I still cared, but that was a one time a season plan. To spend what people do on a PSL, then the tickets, then the parking, then a few beers and maybe food, insane.

Then you get treated like a criminal upon entry, some stadiums now ban binoculars now!

But people keep showing up.



Attending an NFL game in person would ruin almost everything I enjoy about NFL Sundays
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April 4th, 2020 at 12:04:39 PM permalink
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Attending an NFL game in person would ruin almost everything I enjoy about NFL Sundays



Ex Bills season ticket holder. There is no feeling like being in the crowd when the Bills are a good team fighting for a playoff spot, or fighting for better playoff seeding. I leave my house maybe 11am and get home around 5:30. It's a full days worth of fun. Then get to watch the end of afternoon games, and night game as well.

There is an energy in the crowd that is delicious. Playoff games were spectacular.

When the Bills suck (most of last 20 years), it is like being at a funeral.
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April 4th, 2020 at 12:28:27 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Ex Bills season ticket holder. There is no feeling like being in the crowd when the Bills are a good team fighting for a playoff spot, or fighting for better playoff seeding. I leave my house maybe 11am and get home around 5:30. It's a full days worth of fun. Then get to watch the end of afternoon games, and night game as well.

There is an energy in the crowd that is delicious. Playoff games were spectacular.

When the Bills suck (most of last 20 years), it is like being at a funeral.



Went to some Steeler-Bills games when I lived in WNY. Amazingly friendly crowd, and I swear that every last person who had a Steeler shirt on was with a Bills fan friend. No kidding, and Steeler shirt was walking with a Bills fan. But as to "atmosphere" after we left, a few blocks from Rich Stadium is some fans having an after-game party, and this is burned in my mind like the flash memory on your iPhone.

Some dude wearing a diaper, nothing else. Maybe not a diaper but like when you roll a sheet like a rope and twist it into a pair of shorts, like ancient Roman slaves or something. Dude weighed at least 300 lbs, probably more like 350. Dancing to "It's Raining Men!" So yeah, THAT is a guy having fun at a Bill's game!
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April 4th, 2020 at 1:49:14 PM permalink
Went to a Cardinals game a few years ago. It was a good weekend and I'm perfectly ok making it a once in a lifetime event.

By the time the games start most weeks, I've already spent so many hours making bets I just want to relax and be done with football, not spend the next four hours in a stadium and then another few hours getting home.

Las Vegas Ballpark is always going to be the better option than going to a Raiders game. $13 to get in, or rent the entire pool area for 40 people for $2000.
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April 4th, 2020 at 2:41:31 PM permalink
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Went to a Cardinals game a few years ago. It was a good weekend and I'm perfectly ok making it a once in a lifetime event.

By the time the games start most weeks, I've already spent so many hours making bets I just want to relax and be done with football, not spend the next four hours in a stadium and then another few hours getting home.

Las Vegas Ballpark is always going to be the better option than going to a Raiders game. $13 to get in, or rent the entire pool area for 40 people for $2000.



That is like comparing the lounge act at Buffalo Bills to Celine Dion.
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April 5th, 2020 at 7:54:23 AM permalink
My brother is a Jets fan. He had season tickets the entire time they were playing in the Meadowlands at Giants Stadium. When MetLife stadium was built, he told me how much the season ticket prices had skyrocketed, and gave them up.

I'm not a sports fan at all. Oh, sure, if there's a game on the TV where I happen to be, I'll watch and enjoy it, but that's about it. And I'll root for our home team only because it's supposedly good for the local economy.

He also owned a business. I was one of his employees. He often gave the tickets away to his top customers, or salespeople. Once, about 15 years ago, he didn't want to go and couldn't find anyone to give them to, so he gave them to me. Told me that my wife and I would have a good time, if we remembered one thing: The Jets are gonna lose.

I don't remember who they were playing, but it was a cold December afternoon. I'm freezing my tits off, and there are guys in the lower levels with no shirts on, displaying their body paint. Whatever.

The Jets scored first. I then went to the restroom, where a lot of the comments were "Well, we saw them score. We can go home now."

Of course, we stayed. It was a great game. High scoring, tight, with a couple lead changes.

Then, when there are less than 30 seconds to go, the Jets have the ball and a small lead, when they put it in the air. It gets intercepted, and ran back for a touchdown. A few minutes later, game over. Jets lost.

The next morning, as soon as I get to work, I went into my brothers office and said, "What the hell was that?" He just laughed. I said, "How did you know? They were in the lead. The game was almost over. And then..."

He laughed some more, and said words that I would never forget. "That's what the Jets do best."
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April 5th, 2020 at 8:11:49 AM permalink
My family has had NY Giants season tickets since the early 1950s, perhaps even earlier.
At the Meadowlands, our seats in section 110 had started out at $10 when it opened and were ,I believe, $140 a game when it closed.
For the new stadium, our location was considered premium seating and would be $700 a game, plus a.$50,000 license per seat. Some felt that this would be an investment and you could make money as the license fee increased.
Knowing that we couldn't possibly afford $200,000 in PSLs and an additional $2800 a game, we looked into alternative methods and the Giants hooked us up with a Wall St. type company that was interested in upgrading their season seats. The seats were not horrible, and were $140 a game plus a $5,000 fee per seat. We traded seats, and they paid all the PALs for the eight seats. I moved west in 2015 and haven't been to a game since.
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April 5th, 2020 at 8:15:07 AM permalink
Have been to two Cowboys games in the past decade. First was the wild card game roughly ten years ago when they hosted the Eagles, and only went because I got a call from one of our vendors the day of the game asking if I was a fan. They gave me two tickets and they had rented a suite at Jerry World, plus a parking pass.

We got there before they opened, were able to park in the front row, once they opened we toured the stadium, then went to the suite where food and booze was free. They even had two cheerleaders come in and take your picture with them, have that hanging on my office wall. Cowboys won and that was just an awesome experience. Spoiled me.

Then last season my best college buddy wanted to bring his sons out for a game so the four of us went to see them host the Vikings. Bought tickets on Stubhub, crappy seats for about $170 per, fought traffic in and out (I live two miles from the stadium and it took about 1.5 hours to walk to car and fight traffic to get home). Never again.
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April 5th, 2020 at 9:32:22 AM permalink
Is it just me or are NFL fans the biggest suckers ever ? Forgeddabout the high ticket prices, forced to pay full prices for exhibition games, parking, food prices etc. Is there another sport fan who does not even see him team play at home for the championship? I mean build the team a stadium. That or theywill go elsewhere. Support them for decades. Finally MY team is playing for the title. Not in either teams home town. Plus average fan is definetly priced out of the picture. Super Bowl my ass. SUCKER BOWL WITH SUCKER SPELLED LOYAL FAN.
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April 5th, 2020 at 9:39:18 AM permalink
You mean other than NCAA football, NCAA basketball, the World Cup and a couple dozen other sports? Other than that, I suppose you have a point. Somewhere.
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April 5th, 2020 at 12:58:58 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

My brother is a Jets fan. He had season tickets the entire time they were playing in the Meadowlands at Giants Stadium. When MetLife stadium was built, he told me how much the season ticket prices had skyrocketed, and gave them up.

I'm not a sports fan at all. Oh, sure, if there's a game on the TV where I happen to be, I'll watch and enjoy it, but that's about it. And I'll root for our home team only because it's supposedly good for the local economy.

He also owned a business. I was one of his employees. He often gave the tickets away to his top customers, or salespeople. Once, about 15 years ago, he didn't want to go and couldn't find anyone to give them to, so he gave them to me. Told me that my wife and I would have a good time, if we remembered one thing: The Jets are gonna lose.

I don't remember who they were playing, but it was a cold December afternoon. I'm freezing my tits off, and there are guys in the lower levels with no shirts on, displaying their body paint. Whatever.

The Jets scored first. I then went to the restroom, where a lot of the comments were "Well, we saw them score. We can go home now."

Of course, we stayed. It was a great game. High scoring, tight, with a couple lead changes.

Then, when there are less than 30 seconds to go, the Jets have the ball and a small lead, when they put it in the air. It gets intercepted, and ran back for a touchdown. A few minutes later, game over. Jets lost.

The next morning, as soon as I get to work, I went into my brothers office and said, "What the hell was that?" He just laughed. I said, "How did you know? They were in the lead. The game was almost over. And then..."

He laughed some more, and said words that I would never forget. "That's what the Jets do best."



As a life long Jets fan I'd be upset and report you to a moderator except that everything you said is 100% true (big sigh). They always find a was to lose and never have had a marque Quarterback. When they do get a great one, like Farve, they get him for the last year of a great career.

I have 50 yard line seats for the Broncos and the pricing situation is no different. I just sell the tickets on-line, take the profit, and then watch the game on TV so I don't freeze my tail off. Also, it's not just football. The Colorado Avalanche are just as overpriced...hundreds of dollars for one game with a family of four.
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April 5th, 2020 at 1:00:32 PM permalink
Raising your son as a Jet fan is child abuse!
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April 5th, 2020 at 1:03:35 PM permalink
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When did soccer become a major sport?



Except for America, it has been for a hundred years in the rest of the world. I have to side with my country because I find it boring as hell. I do like it when the fans try to kill each other.
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April 5th, 2020 at 1:58:41 PM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

Quote: DJTeddyBear

...

As a life long Jets fan I'd be upset and report you to a moderator except that everything you said is 100% true (big sigh).

LOL.
I知 gonna relay your response to my brother.
Thanks.
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April 6th, 2020 at 9:09:05 AM permalink
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Except for America, it has been for a hundred years in the rest of the world. I have to side with my country because I find it boring as hell. I do like it when the fans try to kill each other.




Almost as boring as baseball.

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