Discussion about the Suspension List
Quote: AxelWolfMission146, Why so upset? Unless you believe being a F***** is a bad thing. being gay is "a cool thing" its sort of trendy. embarrass it.
I did, I made a pretty good joke, but AZ wanted the whole subject matter deleted.
Quote: Mission146I did, I made a pretty good joke, but AZ wanted the whole subject matter deleted.
Whoa! Did you edit the quoted material in Mickey's post? Without the material in the B10 post itself, nothing in the quote implicated AZ at all. Are you saying that AZ wanted you to remove a reference to yourself from a post that someone else made and a second person quoted? And you did that? From a board administration standpoint, why the hell would that be even remotely close to being acceptable?
Quote: rdw4potusWhoa! Did you edit the quoted material in Mickey's post? Without the material in the B10 post itself, nothing in the quote implicated AZ at all. Are you saying that AZ wanted you to remove a reference to yourself from a post that someone else made and a second person quoted? And you did that? From a board administration standpoint, why the hell would that be even remotely close to being acceptable?
What are you talking about? Someone misattributed a quote to me that didn't actually exist and I made a joke playing off of that. That's what I assumed AZ wanted deleted (he and MickeyCrimm were both mentioned in the non-existent quote), but to delete that post, my own post appeared out of context to...well, anything, really, so I also deleted my own post.
Honestly, I tend to doubt whether or not you ever saw the posts that were deleted, including the one I made, they may have been up for about ten-fifteen minutes.
well. He knew how to make up a fake
quote and who to attribute it too.
We know who it was, he'll be back.
edit: stalker got the boot!
Quote: rdw4potusWhoa! Did you edit the quoted material in Mickey's post? Without the material in the B10 post itself, nothing in the quote implicated AZ at all. Are you saying that AZ wanted you to remove a reference to yourself from a post that someone else made and a second person quoted? And you did that? From a board administration standpoint, why the hell would that be even remotely close to being acceptable?
Have you assholes ever jumped off a freight train in the middle of the night?
I don't read most of his posts or interact with him much, so I'm not sure why he got such a harsh punishment and now, nuked? Most of the posts of his I did read seemed fine.
Quote: rainmanSee you when you get outta jail mickey. :)
I'm willing to do the jailtime, brother.
Quote: AxelWolfFor some reason (I Don't know exactly why, just the way he wrote))I always thought Mr. Bish (as you call him) was a reincarnated member or a second account.
I don't read most of his posts or interact with him much, so I'm not sure why he got such a harsh punishment and now, nuked? Most of the posts of his I did read seemed fine.
SOB did not get nuked. He got 30 days per Mission's statement.
Two "new" members, using previously nuked names slightly altered, put up as their first posts personal attacks on Mission. Both those personae were nuked.
Quote: mickeycrimmHave you assholes ever jumped off a freight train in the middle of the night?
Quote: mickeycrimmOnce I know that bish is nuked I will put up a hell of a poem in his honor.
As a fifth offense, two-week suspension.
Quote: WizardAs a fifth offense, two-week suspension.
Yeah but, its only like the 1st or second under "new management". Somehow it seems like Mickey and Buzz are "tied" for time outs under the new "house rules".lol
No Mickey, some people choose not to have to do such things. As fun as it sounds in books and looks on TV from the comfort of a nice warm house, I can't imagine it's that fun after the first few nights. Probably not to many hot meals to be had or hot chicks hanging about.Quote: mickeycrimmHave you assholes ever jumped off a freight train in the middle of the night?
Quote: WizardAs a fifth offense, two-week suspension.
We need to put a breathalizer of Mickeys laptop. That would solve this suspension problem.
Quote: BuzzardI don't have a problem complaining. It is intended to be misleading. But definitely not unexpected, that's for sure !
Quote: BuzzardIn the future, just PM your concerns to me. As Zuga's representative, I will have our legal department look into that matter and will advice you of their findings.
Respectfully, Buzzard
It is clear to me that you will never stop. I really do not have time to bother with your jabs and the constant trolling. Your presence is no longer welcomed here.
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Quote: 1BBYou did it to yourself, Buzz. You had to know it would end this way so why not just resign?
Why quit? He had a point of view and wanted to express it to the end. If he quits, he loses automatically. If he pushes it, he gets to express his thoughts until he is taken out.
"Buzzard 11/15/14 Nuke Constant Trolling / PITA Never"
"PITA?"
LOL
You've got a dark sense of humor.
Buzz couldn't stop jabbing with that pointy stick, especially when drinking.
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While Mickey will be back, I will miss Buzz. I agree he pushed it too far and Zuga is the person in charge, so why mess with him, other than comments on Online gaming in general? But if you took Buzz for what he was, he did make me laugh sometimes with his wit. I hope anyone that may know him outside these forums keeps us updated on his wellbeing. There is a good person in there, unlike many of the others banned.
Quote: RonCWhy quit? He had a point of view and wanted to express it to the end. If he quits, he loses automatically. If he pushes it, he gets to express his thoughts until he is taken out.
He could have toned it down and still expressed his point of view, enabling him to last longer and possibly not lose at all. I'm not sure point of view is how I would describe what he was doing. Maybe he thought this couldn't happen to him because he was well liked by some in charge. Why put in all that time in just to take a dive?
Quote: BozBetween Mickey & Buzz, its not like they are risking losing anyone who would bring them business. You would not find either playing online, at least through the links here that all but ensure that they have ever possible loophole covered in regards to bonus abuse. In fact Mickey is one of the few out there who would be able to find an advantage before they did. Not exactly the kind of player they bought these sites to recruit for their sponsers.
While Mickey will be back, I will miss Buzz. I agree he pushed it too far and Zuga is the person in charge, so why mess with him, other than comments on Online gaming in general? But if you took Buzz for what he was, he did make me laugh sometimes with his wit. I hope anyone that may know him outside these forums keeps us updated on his wellbeing. There is a good person in there, unlike many of the others banned.
His daughter is a member of this forum. Maybe she'll weigh in after the dust settles.
Quote: 1BBHe could have toned it down and still expressed his point of view, enabling him to last longer and possibly not lose at all. I'm not sure point of view is how I would describe what he was doing. Maybe he thought this couldn't happen to him because he was well liked by some in charge. Why put in all that time in just to take a dive?
What does it profit a a man to gain the whole world, but lose his soul?
Stop acting like someone died. Also, stop acting like ads on the site is really going to affect your life. You want something to worry about or a cause to fight for, look out your window or take a walk downtown wherever you live. This place is heaven compared to real life.
ZCore13
Quote: 1BBYou did it to yourself, Buzz. You had to know it would end this way so why not just resign?
He got started with Zuga on the wrong foot, and mostly kept putting that same foot forward. Not sure why even. It wasn't worth anything where yelling, "This is Sparta" and getting run thru and having heroic death.
But, whateva! Each to his own.
and pushes till there's no choice left. It's
almost like he wanted it to happen. He's 74
now and seems more bitter than ever lately.
Quote: EvenBobHe's 74 now and seems more bitter than ever lately.
What would age have to do with oppositional defiance?
One would expect to see it more with teens than those in their dotage.
Quote: MrVWhat would age have to do with oppositional defiance?
One would expect to see it more with teens than those in their dotage.
You should see how my mother in law acts at the nursing home...
Quote: 1BBHe could have toned it down and still expressed his point of view, enabling him to last longer and possibly not lose at all. I'm not sure point of view is how I would describe what he was doing. Maybe he thought this couldn't happen to him because he was well liked by some in charge. Why put in all that time in just to take a dive?
I am pretty sure Buzz knew he would push some buttons and get suspended eventually but I doubt he expected that fellow to go all nuclear on him.
...or maybe he found a new forum that he felt like posting on and gave up on this one!
Quote: ParadigmWhat is Buzz going to do with all his extra time? Over 9 posts per day average for over two years......that is a lot of time reading and posting to the Forum freed up for game development......I am expecting big things at next year's Raving show from Colorado, get to work Buzz!
Buzzpaff - 3/8/11 to 10/11/12 - posts 5,328
Buzzard - 10/28/12 to 11/14/14 - posts 6,814
Total posts 12,142
That's a lot of posting even though most were one line or less.
Buzz probably wouldn't play online. I don't think Mickey would pass up a good opportunity online. There are good online opportunities all the time. It's part Research and part treasure hunt and It's not always obvious. The Wizard just posted about a very good opportunity (unfortunately it ended soon afterwards) It was over 1% not including points, bonuses etc etc.Quote: BozBetween Mickey & Buzz, its not like they are risking losing anyone who would bring them business. You would not find either playing online, at least through the links here that all but ensure that they have ever possible loophole covered in regards to bonus abuse. In fact Mickey is one of the few out there who would be able to find an advantage before they did.
I believe the new owners probably get a nice flat fee for anyone who makes a casino account and deposits plus a commission for any losses the players have.Ussully afilliate programs have a tier effect. The more players you have the higher the percentage they offer you.
Buzz may not have been a potential add clicker however guys like him are what helps keep the site popular so it's a loss for the site. In the grand scheme of things its a drop in the bucket. That's the nice thing about owning your own business and being successful. You can squash the bugs that are annoying you. I'm not suggesting Buzz is a Bug im suggesting he was bugging Zman.
I'm certain Buzz didn't want to get nuked. I believe he is interested in game development. Lot's of good contacts and advice here. He probably figured he would push his suspension limit till the last second and then back off. He seems to love living on the forum edge.
Quote: EvenBobBuzz had to see this coming, he just pushes
and pushes till there's no choice left. It's
almost like he wanted it to happen. He's 74
now and seems more bitter than ever lately.
What happened was simple, have any of you had a job you wanted to get fired from, or an employee who kept trying to get fired? I still remember a converstion:
My Second in Command: We didn't count the trucks.
Boss: You didn't count the inventory on the trucks?
Me: No
Boss: Didn't you get the memo?
Me: Yes, I got the memo.
Boss: And you didn't count it?
Me: No
Boss: <dead silence>
Other three guys at the table: <silent, look on their faces like they just saw the craziest guy they will meet in their lives>
Boss: <after sort of drawing a logic tree in the air>We will discuss this later.
A normal person would have made an excuse, even a lousy one. A person who no longer cared would do what I did.
I realize this is your site and Buzz was the one being flippant. I get that you shouldn't have to put up with crap you don't like or awsner to anyone, but Im willing to bet a personal PM from the beginning, simply asking him why all the Jabs would have ended up with an apology and understanding.Quote: ZugaIt is clear to me that you will never stop. I really do not have time to bother with your jabs and the constant trolling. Your presence is no longer welcomed here.
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If people who hated each other at one timencan became friends im sure this could've been avoided.
Losing Buzz is definitely a sizable loss.
Quote: 1BBQuote: AxelWolfDelete double post[/q
One person's "darling" is another person's thorn in the side. You reap what you sow.Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
Quote: AxelWolfLosing Buzz is definitely a sizable loss.
Some may disagree.
A common man would. The usual response is to prostrate themselves and swear fealty. Unfortunately most, are not worth saving.Quote: AZDuffman
Quote:A normal person would have made an excuse, even a lousy one.
I think you cared, cared about what really matters. About doing the right thing. There is more to this story, but is to me anyway more evidence of your dignity and integrity, good on ya man.Quote:A person who no longer cared would do what I did.
Every worker IMO should be fired at least once, or more, if you are good at what you do. It helps you maintain your perspective.
It is probably hard to believe but I have been fired, more than once. However each corporation has been glad to rehire me, some into management positions, go figure. The reason used for termination was also never the real reason I was terminated, only what would stick. I never took it personal, just business.
Quote: AxelWolfI realize this is your site and Buzz was the one being flippant. I get that you shouldn't have to put up with crap you don't like or awsner to anyone, but Im willing to bet a personal PM from the beginning, simply asking him why all the Jabs would have ended up with an apology and understanding.
If people who hated each other at one timencan became friends im sure this could've been avoided.
Losing Buzz is definitely a sizable loss.
I see it much the way Paul Newman's role went in the classic " Cool hand Luke", "what we have here is a failure to communicate", Buzz would "shake the bush", but you know he didn't really mean it.
He also didn't "flame out" like some nefarious characters.
On the field of battle, I have no doubt the three would have respected each other greatly. I wish more were willing to understand why.
Quote: petroglyphI think you cared, cared about what really matters. About doing the right thing. There is more to this story, but is to me anyway more evidence of your dignity and integrity, good on ya man.
Because you are so insightful I will share. Yes, there was more to it.
When stock left the cage and was loaded on the trucks it was no longer there for accounting purposes. We were told to pull it back in and count it because we were just that close to profit numbers. After doing it once I felt less than comfortable doing it as this was during Enron et al and accounting practice questions. Add in the outfit was already under a huge AG investigation for bad business practices (I was clean, one guy almost did some time!) and I just didn't do it. I did not tell my asst I didn't do it and he spilled it at the table as I described in my post. I knew my career was long over and I probably survived because they had nobody to replace me. This was not the first time I sort of told them to kiss off over how we were doing business.
I always say at the least all those guys will tell the story at other meetings about the guy who had the stones to just say he did not do something.
Quote:Every worker IMO should be fired at least once, or more, if you are good at what you do. It helps you maintain your perspective.
YES, YES, YES! This was the first time I got fired, other times was just a lay-off that all knew would never have a call-back. But once it happens you are not nearly as afraid of it. My boss' voice was cracking when he said it, I was just like, "OK, you gonna drive me home or come pick up the company car?" Since then I have been let go a small few times because the fit was just not right. Once I wished it could have worked out but mostly you just move on with life.
When I got laid off once I was able to drop some mortgage talk that was higher-level than I realized it was when it left my mouth. It was HR and my boss' boss and they gave me a look og "how did you know about THAT?!" The day got more fun because when I got home I answered an ad or two and got a fast callback. Girl asks when I was laid off and again I didn't realize how it sounded. I said, "10:00, 10:30 maybe." So she says, "YOU WERE LAID OFF *TODAY*?"
I no longer have "employers" I have "clients" and I live by the Don Draper motto, "The day you sign a new client is the day you start to lose them."
4/15/12 personal insult/profanity 3 days. First offense
2/13/14 personal insult 3 days. Second offense. No Martingale.
5/3/14 personal insult 7 days. Third offense.
8/2/14 personal insult 3 days. Fourth offense. Reverse Martingale?
8/10/14 personal insult 7 days. Fifth offense.
9/24/14 multiple trolling 14 days. Sixth offense.
11/15/14 trolling. Seventh offense. Nuke.
As many more were overlooked it's obvious that he was afforded several breaks. Exactly how many chances is one supposed to get?
What's notable is the increase in frequency. We have six offenses this year, five of which are in the last six months. Given his age and medical history, that could be cause for concern. No, I'm not a doctor but I went through something with my father that has made me aware of certain changes. If his family notices behavioral changes I would hope that they would bring this to the forefront. The patient is always the last to know and the first to deny.
Quote: 1BB
What's notable is the increase in frequency.
But not a change in personality. I think it's a less a change in him than a change in surroundings.
Edit: Now we just gotta get rid of thecesspit and I can enjoy my Leafs in peace ;)
Quote: FaceBut not a change in personality. I think it's a less a change in him than a change in surroundings.
Edit: Now we just gotta get rid of thecesspit and I can enjoy my Leafs in peace ;)
I think it's the pain, it is accumulative. Like time outs, there is a martingale effect.
Quote: FaceI can enjoy my Leafs in peace ;)
How was last night?
Quote: SOOPOOHow was last night?
Effing soul crushing. I haven't seen them win in person since '96. Every single time I go, it's a disaster. Yesterday was no exception.
You know what's even worse? It's a total home game for the Leafs. Toronto games are all corporate. Regular Joes go to Buffalo. By my count, and this is no exaggeration, Leafs sweaters outnumbered Sabres gear by a count of THIRTY SEVEN to ONE. The entire joint was blue and white, every chant was for Toronto.
Destroy Boston 6-1, yet lose to the worst team in professional sports 6-2. All you gambling sorts should follow me and bet the farm every time I attend.
Quote: AZDuffman
YES, YES, YES! This was the first time I got fired,"
I got fired twice when I was young,
because I wanted to. The first was
in a sheet metal factory where they
wanted me to do a job I hated and
I refused. The second was working
on a hotel set up crew and they wanted
us to dress a certain way and I didn't.
I wanted to be fired because if I quit
my dad would have killed me. This way
I had an excuse.
Quote: FaceBut not a change in personality. I think it's a less a change in him than a change in surroundings.
Edit: Now we just gotta get rid of thecesspit and I can enjoy my Leafs in peace ;)
Ouch. ;)
Quote: Faceyet lose to the worst team in professional sports 6-2.
LOL! Come on now...the 76ers exist!
Quote: rdw4potusLOL! Come on now...the 76ers exist!
What does basketball have to do with sports?
Give me soccer any day over that game.
