Discussion about the Suspension List
Quote: MonkeyMonkeyPerhaps. Or maybe I meet/know more people that aren't as swift on the uptake as you so it doesn't seem that farfetched. Being a table games dealer exposes you to levels of "Oh my God I can't believe someone doesn't know that," that I previously wouldn't have believed.
I know enough people who aren't quick on the uptake to know that's not what was up here.
Quote: MonkeyMonkeyBy my reading of the rules and as interpreted by the administration here in the past I find your post constitutes a personal insult. I have discussed the situation with Mike and he has refused to take any action public or private. Therefore, since I will not be bullied by you or anyone else, I believe my time here has come to an end. I can not stay where the hypocrisy is built into the system.
If any of you feel you have a need to contact me I can be reached at monkeymonkeybaccarat at gmail dot com.
Good day!
If it wasn't you, how about just saying "it wasn't me" and going on with your life. Everyone is sooooo sensitive. This guy called me a name! You insulted me! Someone insinuated something!
Why does this happen on message boards? I've been working for 27 years and have never seen such nonsense in real life.
ZCore13
before yesterday. With the posting limit per day on
new members, how did they make 53 posts since
in 3 days? Casinoboss had to get the limit waived
for him, why wasn't it enforced on yestherereal?
Quote: Zcore13If it wasn't you, how about just saying "it wasn't me" and going on with your life.
I have, at length, you weren't privy to the discussion. Simply put what we have are two sets of standards, the arbitrary ones that govern the users, and the do-what-ever-you-want-because-you're-god ones that apply to the staff. These aren't constraints that I'm willing to work with, so I'm going to cease posting at this time. It may change in the future, it may not. What you're not getting here is an EvenBob-like running and hiding, I'm being very up front and have given anyone that wants to the opportunity to contact me if such a need should arise.
Quote: EvenBobHere's a question. Yestherereal joined the forum day
before yesterday. With the posting limit per day on
new members, how did they make 53 posts since
in 3 days? Casinoboss had to get the limit waived
for him, why wasn't it enforced on yestherereal?
Maybe it was JB unleashing a cleverbot on us. You're the genius Bob, you figure it out.
Quote: EvenBobHere's a question. Yestherereal joined the forum day
before yesterday. With the posting limit per day on
new members, how did they make 53 posts since
in 3 days? Casinoboss had to get the limit waived
for him, why wasn't it enforced on yestherereal?
Because of how the posting limit is calculated. It is based on the number of full days they have been a member. With casinoboss, it was his first day, so his limit was relatively low. I don't care to disclose specific numbers or formulas, but YTR was within the standard "day 3" posting limit. The premise behind the logic is, the longer you've been around (without having been booted), the more freedom you are granted. Most troublemakers reveal themselves soon after joining, hence the low posting limit on day 1.
Quote: JBBecause of how the posting limit is calculated. It is based on the number of full days they have been a member. With casinoboss, it was his first day, so his limit was relatively low. I don't care to disclose specific numbers or formulas, but YTR was within the standard "day 3" posting limit. The premise behind the logic is, the longer you've been around (without having been booted), the more freedom you are granted. Most troublemakers reveal themselves soon after joining, hence the low posting limit on day 1.
Well, the limit must have changed since I joined, or she got around it somehow. She broke the posting limit that I was originally imposed under on Day 2.
Quote: JBI find it funny how defensive you are over their suspension, and even funnier how the IP addresses associated with your account are coming from the same city/area as the IP addresses associated with YesThereReal's account.
Was "YesThereReal" by any chance the product of your own Cleverbot script?
I find it funny you accuse MM of running a bot when earlier you said because of additional information not available to members it doesn't appear to be a bot.
No question her posts were at least a bit suspicious right from the start but IMNSHO that never justifies any member unleashing bullying and insulting posts but rather the admins judge the situation and take action as has been done.
Quote: rainmanThat may sound like a resignation however I interpret it as an admission of guilt.
I concur with this.
btw I was one of the first to call foul ... I feel I can tell fake dumb from real dumb [g]
what is the purpose of using a bot in this fashion? besides the obvious answer, 'to laugh at the attention it gets'
Quote: chickenmanI find it funny you accuse MM of running a bot when earlier you said because of additional information not available to members it doesn't appear to be a bot.
That was before piecing together additional information. Surely you have changed your mind about "whodunit" when watching mystery shows/movies as new evidence is discovered.
Quote: tringlomaneWell, the limit must have changed since I joined, or she got around it somehow. She broke the posting limit that I was originally imposed under on Day 2.
I don't recall exactly when, but the limits were relaxed a bit sometime after they were implemented because the original limits were deemed too restrictive.
Quote: JBI don't recall exactly when, but the limits were relaxed a bit sometime after they were implemented because the original limits were deemed too restrictive.
Eleven posts on Day 1, 12 on Day 2, 13 on Day 3, etc. is too restrictive? Meh. And as recently seen with casinoboss, post limitations can be lifted with justification anyway.
Quote: tringlomaneEleven posts on Day 1, 12 on Day 2, 13 on Day 3, etc. is too restrictive? Meh. And as recently seen with casinoboss, post limitations can be lifted with justification anyway.
Not only can post limits be lifted, some can be allowed to use a second identity once they reach their limit.
Quote: tringlomaneEleven posts on Day 1, 12 on Day 2, 13 on Day 3, etc. is too restrictive? Meh. And as recently seen with casinoboss, post limitations can be lifted with justification anyway.
That still doesn't add up to 53 posts. I see 2 new people
joined and got bounced today. RevelPr and yadirtyanimal.
Whats up with them? Was it their IP's?
Quote: EvenBobThat still doesn't add up to 53 posts.
No, it doesn't. But JB said the rule was loosened at some point. I believe that was the original rule (which I was initially subjected to and had no problem with).
Quote: tringlomaneNo, it doesn't. But JB said the rule was loosened at some point. I believe that was the original rule (which I was initially subjected to and had no problem with).
I still don't get it. Yestherereal was allowed to make
20 posts the 2nd day, thats basically no restrictions
at all.
Heck, not even Fleastiff is that dumb! I don't why there is all this discussion about people who've been banned or should be banned, but if there is to be any discussion about it then surely YesThereReal should be banned, not for being a ditzy broad with big boobs but for being a ditzy bot with big boobs. It may have been entertaining but it was not real at all and it was rather obvious the posts were there for a psychological effect only.Quote: JBThe rule I invoked was #13. I don't believe for one second that "YesThereReal" was as dumb as he/she was pretending to be.
Quote: NareedDid he divulge PM information? Otherwise I don't see he broke any rules.
Ahigh seemingly hurled a heinous insult.
He claimed Zscore13 is homosexual and asked him out on a date.
While the world is becoming increasingly PC, such a comment about a "straight" person is commonly perceived by the masses as an insult.
I've no doubt that middle school lunchroom girls hurl it at one another with aplomb.
Presumably the Wiz will try to view any PM history to see if Zscore13 did in fact ask Ahigh out.
If as I expect he concludes that the comment was false and malicious:
Quote: FleaStiffHeck, not even Fleastiff is that dumb! I don't why there is all this discussion about people who've been banned or should be banned, but if there is to be any discussion about it then surely YesThereReal should be banned, not for being a ditzy broad with big boobs but for being a ditzy bot with big boobs. It may have been entertaining but it was not real at all and it was rather obvious the posts were there for a psychological effect only.
I'm pretty sure YesThereReal was not a bot, but a real person trolling for... something.
Quote: NareedDid he divulge PM information? Otherwise I don't see he broke any rules.
The claim that Zcore13 is gay is a personal insult. As far as I know Zcore has never made such a claim. Pursuant to my Martingale style of punishments, Ahigh's term is two months. I might add that Zcore got a suspension for inferring that Ahigh is gay as well.
Quote: MrVWhile the world is becoming increasingly PC, such a comment about a "straight" person is commonly perceived by the masses as an insult.
It shouldn't be. Classifying it as such in this site is not a good idea, either.
Quote: MrVAhigh seeming hurled a heinous insult.
He claimed Zscore13 is homosexual and asked him out on a date.
While the world is becoming increasingly PC, such a comment about a "straight" person is commonly perceived by the masses as an insult.
I've no doubt that middle school lunchroom girls hurl it at one another with aplomb.
Presumably the Wiz will try to view any PM history to see if Zscore13 did in fact ask Ahigh out.
If as I expect he concludes that the comment was false and malicious:
I've never PM'd him in my life and the only place I've ever semi-talked to him is on this public forum. He's just looking for attention and saw that last time he got suspended he got a few extra members at his site out of it.
I did my time in the hole over a month ago for asking him if he was asking me on a date when he insinuated that he wanted me to come to Las Vegas to fight him.
ZCore
Quote: NareedIt shouldn't be. Classifying it as such in this site is not a good idea, either.Quote: MrVWhile the world is becoming increasingly PC, such a comment about a "straight" person is commonly perceived by the masses as an insult.
Calling a straight person "gay" is roughly equivalent to calling a homosexual person a "fag." Either comment makes the same claim but in a way that is most offensive to the person being discussed. I would consider either of those to be violations of the policies of this forum.
Quote: WizardI might add that Zcore got a suspension for inferring that Ahigh is gay as well.
"Inferring" it probably would be a mistake, though not one worthy of suspension; "implying" it might indeed.
Quote: thecesspitI'm pretty sure YesThereReal was not a bot, but a real person trolling for... something.
My suspicion is that YesThereReal was a cleverbot who was being "managed" by a human. (Then again, who the hell knows for sure...)
Quote: MrVAhigh seeming hurled a heinous insult...While the world is becoming increasingly PC, such a comment about a "straight" person is commonly perceived by the masses as an insult.
I agree, it was definitely an insult.
Just like calling someone "fat". While there's nothing wrong at all with fat people, calling somebody "fat" would definitely be interpreted as an insult by pretty much everyone.
Quote: WizardThe claim that Zcore13 is gay is a personal insult. As far as I know Zcore has never made such a claim. Pursuant to my Martingale style of punishments, Ahigh's term is two months. I might add that Zcore got a suspension for inferring that Ahigh is gay as well.
I am in a quandry. Perhaps the gay members of the forum would consider it a compliment, not an insult. More realistically they would just consider it an error, if Zcore is not gay. It seems to me if you consider homosexuality an acceptable activity, and an acceptable lifestyle, then referring to someone as gay should also be acceptable. It can be factually correct, or incorrect, but it should not be deemed an insult either way. If I claim that our Wiz is Jewish, I may be wrong, but I would hope he would not consider it an insult, just an error.....
Am I thinking too much???
Too little.
Quote: DocCalling a straight person "gay" is roughly equivalent to calling a homosexual person a "fag."
Well, then. Let's suppose I called you black, or a Jew, or a Muslim for that matter. What would be the insult to whom and how would it compare when calling a black, Jewish or Muslim person what?
Quote: boymimboI don't have a problem with Ahigh calling Zcore gay. It may be false, but not an insult.
I agree. Plus, I like it when Ahigh calls people chump and loverboy; that shit's funny.
Quote: RogerKintI agree. Plus, I like it when Ahigh calls people chump and loverboy; that shit's funny.
"Chump" is actually an insult.
Quote: RogerKintI agree. Plus, I like it when Ahigh calls people chump and loverboy; that shit's funny.
Agree. This whole thing is way overblown, especially if anyone cares to look at the entire context...
ZCore13
Quote: boymimboWhenever I watch a taped show on KTLA I inevitably see Mendelson selling something which drags me back into this forum. Sigh.
I think Alan missed him as they had a good run going for a while. Seems lost without him, kind of like Andrew Ridgeley with George. And DONT think I am starting any gay jokes with that.
His own forum is a joke, its him talking to himself.
He was dying to come back here and he has no
self control so he got himself banned again.
His new strategy seems to be hitting a bunch of
casinos and winning very small amounts. He thinks
he going to trick the game by sneaking in and
sneaking out with a tiny win. Doesn't work. If you
don't have the edge it makes no difference how
long your sessions are, the result is always the
same in the end.
Quote: WizardThe claim that Zcore13 is gay is a personal insult. As far as I know Zcore has never made such a claim. Pursuant to my Martingale style of punishments, Ahigh's term is two months. I might add that Zcore got a suspension for inferring that Ahigh is gay as well.
You know, if you don't want someone on your board you can just delete his account. There's no need to put on a show.
Quote: SOOPOOIt seems to me if you consider homosexuality an acceptable activity, and an acceptable lifestyle, then referring to someone as gay should also be acceptable.
Ah, but it seems to me that many people do not find homosexuality an acceptable activity, DOMA notwithstanding.
Indeed, an argument can be made that being homosexual prohibits a person from achieving the one true, undeniable "meaning of life," i.e. mixing your DNA with that of your beloved partner in order to perpetuate the species.
Reproduction is the only true, across the board "meaning of life," from amoebas to whales.
Gays can adopt, they can go surrogacy, but lesbians and gay men cannot impregnate their same sex partner, thus melding their combined DNA into a new individual.
Quote: NareedYou know, if you don't want someone on your board you can just delete his account. There's no need to put on a show.
A 'show'? Are you joking?
Quote: MrVAh, but it seems to me that many people do not find homosexuality an acceptable activity
Look at the TV ads made by Gay's that tell us its
not OK to say things like 'thats so Gay' or 'thats
just Gay' or 'he or they are so Gay'. They tell us
its hurtful and insulting. Calling someone Gay when
they're not is an insult in the Gay community. I guess.
Its all very confusing to me, but then, I'm not, well,
you know, Gay...
Quote: MrVGays can adopt, they can go surrogacy, but lesbians and gay men cannot impregnate their same sex partner, thus melding their combined DNA into a new individual.
Straight women suck at impregnating their partners. And I don't think their partners would be too keen on the idea, either.
BTW did you miss the entire XX Century?
For me that's an off-the-cuff remark. ZCore, in my opinion, was just being cute to make light of a situation that was getting out of hand. If AZ or Beethoven, or MrV, or my other GoP/Libertarian 'friends' got into a heated argument, and said "let's settle my differences in person", I am liable to say the same thing that ZCore did. I think ZCore was attacking Ahigh's "machado" - the challenge to meet "mano a mano" with something that I felt was light hearted. It wasn't an insult, in my opinion.
That doesn't mean that ZCore's gay, but Ahigh took great offense to the comment which got ZCore banned. Calling someone directly "gay" is a personal insult however and needs to be dealt with by the rules of the forum.
