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sodawater
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February 18th, 2014 at 1:46:25 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

On your planet, maybe. Not on this one..



What is inherently more offensive about a mental illness based on biology than a sprained ankle based on biology? They are both based on cells and chemicals. What, exactly, is offensive in one and not the other?
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February 18th, 2014 at 1:47:06 AM permalink
Quote: Transcend

Quote: beachbumbabs

AxelWolf is suspended for 3 days for this post .



How much did he pay you to do this, and I hope he gave you some action on his parley.



You're too clever for the merrie pranksters, Transcend! I'm pretty sure it was a "welcome to your new job" prank. All good with me. If Axel made some money on it, he didn't cut me in, but if he claimed to be the first, well.....lol
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February 18th, 2014 at 2:02:19 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs



Edit: I have verified to my satisfaction that what Axel said was a typo and not intended to read as it did. The thread has been edited and the ban reversed.



Good call!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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February 18th, 2014 at 2:04:54 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Ah, the typo defense, good to know. Not exactly the
Nurenberg defense, but it will do.



Um...With all due respect to Axelwolf, I'm not sure he is renowned on this Forum for being the most accurate typist. If that post were to come from me, just for one example, I could certainly understand a Suspension given my 99%+ typing accuracy. The, 'n' is pretty close to the 'g,' by the way.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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February 18th, 2014 at 2:16:34 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Um...With all due respect to Axelwolf, I'm not sure he is renowned on this Forum for being the most accurate typist. If that post were to come from me, just for one example, I could certainly understand a Suspension given my 99%+ typing accuracy. The, 'n' is pretty close to the 'g,' by the way.


Especially if he's using Swype. I can see someone sloppily swiping from the 'F' to the 'A' and then inadvertently stopping short of the 'N' and ending on the 'G'.
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February 18th, 2014 at 2:19:14 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Normally I don't like to issue suspensions over old stuff, but I hope HotBlonde won't mind me saying that she is just livid over her seven-day suspension. As part of her argument on the injustice of it all was this two-year old post by DorothyGale, which said she has a "psychological disorder."

I would have to agree that is on par with saying SOOPOO "isn't a nice guy" so I'm giving Dorothy three days as her first offense. In response, Dorothy asked to state the following:



I feel like this is absolutely ridiculous, and what I am about to say may get me a suspension but I feel it needs to be said.


First I believe more than just the "not a nice guy" should have factored in to the suspension.

As quoted here

Quote: HotBlonde

This isn't a competition. All you guys look for is women you want to fuck and to be honest with you most of her type of women wouldn't even want your sorry asses in the first place. So for you to take my compliment to her and turn it around as an insult to me is not only rude but shows just how reprehensible, as the Wizard put it, you guys are. Shame on you for trying to shame a woman! I posted a nice picture a while back in honor of my friend Michael and his website and you used my post of that as a way to try and degrade me. **** you and shame on you.



The bold text I feel should contribute to the suspension, the italicized text would be in reference to this post

Quote: HotBlonde

Me saying I didn't think JJ is real was my initial guess. I'm entitled to my opinion just like every one else. If she's real then that's great. I didn't see the picture you're talking about. If she lives in LA I'd love to meet up with her.

I posted a picture a while back with "I <3 WoV" but how I don't remember where I posted it. I'm sure my pic wasn't as sexy as JJ's.



I feel bringing up she posted a similar picture was unnecessary and baiting hoping someone would agree with her self deprecating statement. She could have just left it that she posted a similar picture or that she thought that JJ was very nice. There was no need for a comparison.
Quote: HotBlonde

This isn't a competition. All you guys look for is...


She made it in to a competition when she made the comparison and it is not as if anyone said anything worse than agreeing with her.

That is all I have to say on HotBlonde's suspension, now for DorothyGales retroactive suspension. First to suspend someone over something from two years ago is ludicrous and second for the affected party to harbor a grudge for two years over what was said is evidence that what was said is a true assertion.

Quote: DorothyGale

Dagger? I wish HB the best on her quest ... it is extraordinarly tough to lose weight for women, for most it is a lifelong struggle. This struggle is more than physical and for many requires introspection and self-awareness as part of the journey ... that HB conducts this struggle in a public forum gives permission to diagnose her disorder fully at all levels, not just as an overweight woman, but as a woman who has a combination of issues that all contribute to her weight ... in this case, she has an evident psychological disorder that accompanies her weight issue ... perhaps dealing more directly with the psychological disorder and its cause will make the weight loss much easier for her ...



DorothyGales statement here is very true and most weight loss comes down to a psychological aspect. Eating disorders, of eating too much or too little are psychological and often contribute to difficult weight loss or gain. Second, albeit may have been hard to hear, she was just trying to help HB figure out how to properly lose the weight and keep it off.

Further evidence of what I feel may point to said psychological order can be seen in this post and how I feel each point is unjustifiable. Said post
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February 18th, 2014 at 3:14:43 AM permalink
Well put, Transcend.
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February 18th, 2014 at 4:58:00 AM permalink
While calling the issue with HB's weight a "psychological disorder" may have been a tad strong, it is a mental issue for many of us who are overweight (me included). For whatever reason, we aren't strong enough to fight that which makes us fat--that is, the urge to eat instead of exercise...that is mental. When we get mentally tough, we lose the weight. HB toughened up and lost the weight but the same "demons" have caused her to give back some of the losses, apparently. I've had the same thing happen to me.

She chose to air everything here in public--when you do that, you will get some negative comments along with some positive ones. Thin skin is not an option.

I think suspending someone for something that was said two years ago just to satisfy someone who is upset with a current suspension is stretching it--does that mean someone could find a vague insult that I have made (not that I remember one) and ask that I could be suspended for something that was not even an issue at the time?

HB's thread caused the most suspensions around here at one point. That isn't exactly a badge of honor.

Anyway, Transcend set it all and said it well. I hope he doesn't get suspended for sharing his thoughts on the issue.
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February 18th, 2014 at 5:10:21 AM permalink
I could well be overruled, but I see nothing in Transcend's post that is suspension-worthy, though it's obviously a sensitive subject.
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February 18th, 2014 at 5:12:36 AM permalink
Quote: Transcend

Quote: Wizard

Normally I don't like to issue suspensions over old stuff, but I hope HotBlonde won't mind me saying that she is just livid over her seven-day suspension. As part of her argument on the injustice of it all was this two-year old post by DorothyGale, which said she has a "psychological disorder."

I would have to agree that is on par with saying SOOPOO "isn't a nice guy" so I'm giving Dorothy three days as her first offense. In response, Dorothy asked to state the following:



I feel like this is absolutely ridiculous, and what I am about to say may get me a suspension but I feel it needs to be said.


First I believe more than just the "not a nice guy" should have factored in to the suspension.

As quoted here

Quote: HotBlonde

This isn't a competition. All you guys look for is women you want to fuck and to be honest with you most of her type of women wouldn't even want your sorry asses in the first place. So for you to take my compliment to her and turn it around as an insult to me is not only rude but shows just how reprehensible, as the Wizard put it, you guys are. Shame on you for trying to shame a woman! I posted a nice picture a while back in honor of my friend Michael and his website and you used my post of that as a way to try and degrade me. **** you and shame on you.



The bold text I feel should contribute to the suspension, the italicized text would be in reference to this post



I feel bringing up she posted a similar picture was unnecessary and baiting hoping someone would agree with her self deprecating statement. She could have just left it that she posted a similar picture or that she thought that JJ was very nice. There was no need for a comparison.

She made it in to a competition when she made the comparison and it is not as if anyone said anything worse than agreeing with her.

That is all I have to say on HotBlonde's suspension, now for DorothyGales retroactive suspension. First to suspend someone over something from two years ago is ludicrous and second for the affected party to harbor a grudge for two years over what was said is evidence that what was said is a true assertion.

Quote: DorothyGale

Dagger? I wish HB the best on her quest ... it is extraordinarly tough to lose weight for women, for most it is a lifelong struggle. This struggle is more than physical and for many requires introspection and self-awareness as part of the journey ... that HB conducts this struggle in a public forum gives permission to diagnose her disorder fully at all levels, not just as an overweight woman, but as a woman who has a combination of issues that all contribute to her weight ... in this case, she has an evident psychological disorder that accompanies her weight issue ... perhaps dealing more directly with the psychological disorder and its cause will make the weight loss much easier for her ...



DorothyGales statement here is very true and most weight loss comes down to a psychological aspect. Eating disorders, of eating too much or too little are psychological and often contribute to difficult weight loss or gain. Second, albeit may have been hard to hear, she was just trying to help HB figure out how to properly lose the weight and keep it off.

Further evidence of what I feel may point to said psychological order can be seen in this post and how I feel each point is unjustifiable. Said post

The fact that you think there is a possibility of getting suspended for what you just said........ Says something.

Perhaps some people can sense when the Wizard is in a mood.

Or perhaps you are scared of the new moderator.
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