Discussion III about the Suspension List

Quote: darkoz

The racism is definitely in the last sentence. Black people are often told they don't belong somewhere.

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Black, white, Jewish. If someone German says to a Jewish driver when he is nearing E on his gas tank, "you need to get gassed", sorry but there is going to be a different sentiment than if that is said to a person of different nationality or race regardless of the innocent intent.

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Likewise white people need to be SENSITIVE to what they say to black people. All people of one race, nationality etc need to be sensitive to these or face the consequences.

Quote: ChumpChange

Seems a first time poster got thrown out in 10 minutes flat, in the suspension thread, like right here right now.
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Quote: Dieter

Quote: ChumpChange

Seems a first time poster got thrown out in 10 minutes flat, in the suspension thread, like right here right now.
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Well, between the duplicate account, personal insults, and duplicated posts...

Yeah.
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Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: darkoz

The racism is definitely in the last sentence. Black people are often told they don't belong somewhere.

Lots of people get told that. Her race was not mentioned.

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Black, white, Jewish. If someone German says to a Jewish driver when he is nearing E on his gas tank, "you need to get gassed", sorry but there is going to be a different sentiment than if that is said to a person of different nationality or race regardless of the innocent intent.

Do they say "you need to get gassed" in Germany? In the USA you say, "Looks like you need to get some gas."

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Likewise white people need to be SENSITIVE to what they say to black people. All people of one race, nationality etc need to be sensitive to these or face the consequences.

That statement is racist on your part, yet you do not realize it at all.
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Quote: darkoz

It seems you live in a racist society and Don't realize it at all.

Anyway you will not only continue to make the same mistakes but insist on your righteousness in doing so.

And so the cycle of racism goes on.
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Quote: Nathan

What REALLY upset me the most about Billryan's insulting and offensive post to me was the "I really wish you weren't here,."part. Like, that was beyond uncalled for, insulting, and offensive, especially since Billryan and I didn't really "Speak," to each other, we've been neutral towards each other, I remembered Billryan being a normal, decent Poster, and out of complete left field, he suddenly said he wished I wasn't here. Like,"Where did THAT come from?"
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Quote: Nathan

What REALLY upset me the most about Billryan's insulting and offensive post to me was the "I really wish you weren't here,."part. Like, that was beyond uncalled for, insulting, and offensive, especially since Billryan and I didn't really "Speak," to each other, we've been neutral towards each other, I remembered Billryan being a normal, decent Poster, and out of complete left field, he suddenly said he wished I wasn't here. Like,"Where did THAT come from?"
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Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: darkoz

It seems you live in a racist society and Don't realize it at all.

Anyway you will not only continue to make the same mistakes but insist on your righteousness in doing so.

And so the cycle of racism goes on.
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I realize it. We have colleges fighting to use race as a criteria for admissions. Same with private companies in hiring and promotion but less blatant.

Also have colleges getting rid of standardized tests because they do not believe blacks can do as well on them as whites.

I just want everyone to be treated the same.
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Quote: darkoz

Quote: Nathan

What REALLY upset me the most about Billryan's insulting and offensive post to me was the "I really wish you weren't here,."part. Like, that was beyond uncalled for, insulting, and offensive, especially since Billryan and I didn't really "Speak," to each other, we've been neutral towards each other, I remembered Billryan being a normal, decent Poster, and out of complete left field, he suddenly said he wished I wasn't here. Like,"Where did THAT come from?"
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I also seem to recall Bill being less caustic years ago.

He came at me so hard at one point on this forum that I did something rare for me and cursed him out in a similar manner to your BBB rant and took the suspension. (He isn't a mod so it was just 7 days or maybe it was 2 weeks. I can't remember now)

Bill just got unsuspected a week ago for calling MDawg the D-word.

So you probably expect more when he returns.
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Quote: darkoz

Where is your condemnation of females receiving less pay for the same work?

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Where is the condemnation of police targeting people of color based solely on their color, even in places like NYC where judicially it was determined police were stopping and frisking people simply because they were black?

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I also want everyone to be treated the same. We have to start with the OTHERS first. Yelling that you are upset white people are being mistreated doesn't actually come off as wanting everyone treated the same when you happen to be white.
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Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: darkoz

Where is your condemnation of females receiving less pay for the same work?

You would have to show me where this is happening. And explain why the EEOC has not done anything about it. I suspect by "same work" you may mean "comparable worth" which is NOT the same work but a concept some people have made up to say the office secretary deserves the same pay as the service rep who goes out in the field. Or you do not account time taken off work in a career.

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Where is the condemnation of police targeting people of color based solely on their color, even in places like NYC where judicially it was determined police were stopping and frisking people simply because they were black?

I think you are talking about profiling. Proper profiling is not "solely on skin color." It is about looking for people and things out of place to prevent crime. In such a case they are not going to target the older black woman who is quietly shopping. But they will watch a group of young black males in a store they would not normally shop and behaving in ways that mass shoplifters behave. That is simply good police work.

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I also want everyone to be treated the same. We have to start with the OTHERS first. Yelling that you are upset white people are being mistreated doesn't actually come off as wanting everyone treated the same when you happen to be white.
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Incorrect, I am all for them being treated the same. That means the same expectations. It means the same ramifications as well. See, I have more than once seen a black person scream (and it was literal screaming) RACISM when they were caught doing something that would get them fired. We all have seen claims like 'the SAT is racist" yet not one racist question can be cited. I have also known an otherwise very professional black once co-worker excuse looting and rioting by blacks by saying "they're frustrated!" Yet the same guy would get upset if I did not agree with anything he thought was racist.

Bottom line is you cannot at the same time demand to "be treated the same" yet cry about an innocent word you do not like.
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Quote: darkoz

Man, all you have to do find out about the gender gap is google it and dozens of articles will pop up. You Acting surprised there is a gender gap in equal pay is actually quite hilarious.

It's quite obvious you don't want to find out.
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Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: darkoz

Man, all you have to do find out about the gender gap is google it and dozens of articles will pop up. You Acting surprised there is a gender gap in equal pay is actually quite hilarious.

It's quite obvious you don't want to find out.
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Actually YOU are the one that does not want to find out.

See, if you google "gender gap" you will get an overall comparison of what men make vs. what women make. But that is not how it works.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less than the jobs men take. When I had managed the pest control company tech made more than office admins. But women rarely applied to be techs, they dominated the admin roles. Nobody stopped them, they just did not apply. That is just the example from where I was at. It goes on up and down the economy. It starts in college where women are more likely to choose a major that does not lead to high pay. The exception there is pharmacy, which over the 1980s went from almost all male to almost all female and stayed there since. So they can do it, just most choose easier majors.

Women take more time off than men. The biggest reason being to have kids, but that is a lifestyle choice.

The "gender gap" has been debunked many, many times. So I will challenge you again. Show me where women are getting paid less FOR THE SAME EXACT JOB. For a bonus, explain why the EEOC has not prosecuted. If you get good at this you could probably get some coin by getting a law firm involved, they would pay a referral.

Have at it!
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Quote: darkoz

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: darkoz

Man, all you have to do find out about the gender gap is google it and dozens of articles will pop up. You Acting surprised there is a gender gap in equal pay is actually quite hilarious.

It's quite obvious you don't want to find out.
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Actually YOU are the one that does not want to find out.

See, if you google "gender gap" you will get an overall comparison of what men make vs. what women make. But that is not how it works.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less than the jobs men take. When I had managed the pest control company tech made more than office admins. But women rarely applied to be techs, they dominated the admin roles. Nobody stopped them, they just did not apply. That is just the example from where I was at. It goes on up and down the economy. It starts in college where women are more likely to choose a major that does not lead to high pay. The exception there is pharmacy, which over the 1980s went from almost all male to almost all female and stayed there since. So they can do it, just most choose easier majors.

Women take more time off than men. The biggest reason being to have kids, but that is a lifestyle choice.

The "gender gap" has been debunked many, many times. So I will challenge you again. Show me where women are getting paid less FOR THE SAME EXACT JOB. For a bonus, explain why the EEOC has not prosecuted. If you get good at this you could probably get some coin by getting a law firm involved, they would pay a referral.

Have at it!
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How about you prove it was debunked. Saying it is doesn't cut it.
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Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: darkoz

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Quote: darkoz

Man, all you have to do find out about the gender gap is google it and dozens of articles will pop up. You Acting surprised there is a gender gap in equal pay is actually quite hilarious.

It's quite obvious you don't want to find out.
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Actually YOU are the one that does not want to find out.

See, if you google "gender gap" you will get an overall comparison of what men make vs. what women make. But that is not how it works.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less than the jobs men take. When I had managed the pest control company tech made more than office admins. But women rarely applied to be techs, they dominated the admin roles. Nobody stopped them, they just did not apply. That is just the example from where I was at. It goes on up and down the economy. It starts in college where women are more likely to choose a major that does not lead to high pay. The exception there is pharmacy, which over the 1980s went from almost all male to almost all female and stayed there since. So they can do it, just most choose easier majors.

Women take more time off than men. The biggest reason being to have kids, but that is a lifestyle choice.

The "gender gap" has been debunked many, many times. So I will challenge you again. Show me where women are getting paid less FOR THE SAME EXACT JOB. For a bonus, explain why the EEOC has not prosecuted. If you get good at this you could probably get some coin by getting a law firm involved, they would pay a referral.

Have at it!
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How about you prove it was debunked. Saying it is doesn't cut it.
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Try watching media that is not mainsteram media.
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Quote: Dieter

I found plenty there that attacked the writer, not the writing.

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(ahem)
Gents,
Don't let your argument about equal pay get too hostile.
It's already off-topic.
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Quote: ChumpChange

From what I've heard the middle class has been obliterated and they need $165K/year of income to afford the average $435K house. Of course the average income is $90K less, so people are doom spending now.
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Quote: rainman

Quote: Dieter

(ahem)
Gents,
Don't let your argument about equal pay get too hostile.
It's already off-topic.
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You ruin everything.
My disdain for you is failing, I think I'm getting old.
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Quote: MrV

Quote: Dieter

I found plenty there that attacked the writer, not the writing.

How then to "draw the line," given the fact that on forums "we are what we write?"

Should I have said, without penalty: "his writings are self-aggrandizing and filled with brags?"

If that would be OK, what makes it different from what I wrote?

If it's not OK, why isn't it, as it only describes writings?

*Dazed and Confused*
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Quote: MDawg

Wizard has given other nuked members a chance in the past too, but those members such as KewlJ screwed up again even more badly after returning, so they got the nuked boot again. Some men you just can't reach. Others, you may.

Just...wow...You really can't let go of the embarrassment KJ has caused you by "debunking", can you?

Why bring KJ up here, why hijack this thread, which you "fought" so hard for on behalf of Nathan, "your client?"

Oh wait...did you volunteer your "legal services" on behalf of The Damned just to get "her" reinstated here in order to gloat over KJ?

Could be...I mean, it's not like you really seem to care about helping "the little people," given your proclivity for self-aggrandizement and bragging about how much money you have available.

If so ... (fill in the blank with appropriate phrase)
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Quote: darkoz

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Quote: darkoz

Man, all you have to do find out about the gender gap is google it and dozens of articles will pop up. You Acting surprised there is a gender gap in equal pay is actually quite hilarious.

It's quite obvious you don't want to find out.
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Actually YOU are the one that does not want to find out.

See, if you google "gender gap" you will get an overall comparison of what men make vs. what women make. But that is not how it works.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less than the jobs men take. When I had managed the pest control company tech made more than office admins. But women rarely applied to be techs, they dominated the admin roles. Nobody stopped them, they just did not apply. That is just the example from where I was at. It goes on up and down the economy. It starts in college where women are more likely to choose a major that does not lead to high pay. The exception there is pharmacy, which over the 1980s went from almost all male to almost all female and stayed there since. So they can do it, just most choose easier majors.

Women take more time off than men. The biggest reason being to have kids, but that is a lifestyle choice.

The "gender gap" has been debunked many, many times. So I will challenge you again. Show me where women are getting paid less FOR THE SAME EXACT JOB. For a bonus, explain why the EEOC has not prosecuted. If you get good at this you could probably get some coin by getting a law firm involved, they would pay a referral.

Have at it!
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How about you prove it was debunked. Saying it is doesn't cut it.
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Try watching media that is not mainsteram media.
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Enough said.

You will back up your claims with bunk.

Good to know.
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Quote: Mission146

Is this the first of Nathan’s casualties? People just always getting banned for stuff said to/about Nathan. History repeats.

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Quote: darkoz

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Quote: darkoz

Man, all you have to do find out about the gender gap is google it and dozens of articles will pop up. You Acting surprised there is a gender gap in equal pay is actually quite hilarious.

It's quite obvious you don't want to find out.
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Actually YOU are the one that does not want to find out.

See, if you google "gender gap" you will get an overall comparison of what men make vs. what women make. But that is not how it works.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less than the jobs men take. When I had managed the pest control company tech made more than office admins. But women rarely applied to be techs, they dominated the admin roles. Nobody stopped them, they just did not apply. That is just the example from where I was at. It goes on up and down the economy. It starts in college where women are more likely to choose a major that does not lead to high pay. The exception there is pharmacy, which over the 1980s went from almost all male to almost all female and stayed there since. So they can do it, just most choose easier majors.

Women take more time off than men. The biggest reason being to have kids, but that is a lifestyle choice.

The "gender gap" has been debunked many, many times. So I will challenge you again. Show me where women are getting paid less FOR THE SAME EXACT JOB. For a bonus, explain why the EEOC has not prosecuted. If you get good at this you could probably get some coin by getting a law firm involved, they would pay a referral.

Have at it!
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How about you prove it was debunked. Saying it is doesn't cut it.
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Try watching media that is not mainsteram media.
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Enough said.

You will back up your claims with bunk.

Good to know.
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When you want to show a flaw in my statements with logic I am all ears. Similar to how I showed the flaw in the "equal pay" statements you made. Otherwise I will take the above request and refrain from posting more on this off-topic drift.
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Quote: Dieter

Quote: ChumpChange

Seems a first time poster got thrown out in 10 minutes flat, in the suspension thread, like right here right now.
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Well, between the duplicate account, personal insults, and duplicated posts...

Yeah.
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Quote: Nathan

Quote: Dieter

Quote: ChumpChange

Seems a first time poster got thrown out in 10 minutes flat, in the suspension thread, like right here right now.
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Well, between the duplicate account, personal insults, and duplicated posts...

Yeah.
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I clicked on the now banned Poster's name to see if I could PM him and question him already knowing Forum History despite being a brand new Newbie, but I saw he was already in red(Nuked) He was ACTIVE when I clicked on his name, after clicking, he was already nuked. It was literally only seconds between him being active and him being nuked.
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Quote: Joeman

PPS, I will volunteer to serve half of Wiz's sentence so that he will be free to post his Superb Owl prop wisdom next week. In my almost-decade here, I have never seen the inside of the WoV slammer. I hope it doesn't smell too bad!
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Quote: unJon

I would do that also. Take some days from Wiz so he can post in Super Bowl lead up.
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Quote: Nathan

Quote: Dieter

Quote: ChumpChange

Seems a first time poster got thrown out in 10 minutes flat, in the suspension thread, like right here right now.
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Well, between the duplicate account, personal insults, and duplicated posts...

Yeah.
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I clicked on the now banned Poster's name to see if I could PM him and question him already knowing Forum History despite being a brand new Newbie, but I saw he was already in red(Nuked) He was ACTIVE when I clicked on his name, after clicking, he was already nuked. It was literally only seconds between him being active and him being nuked.
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Quote: darkoz

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: darkoz

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Quote: darkoz

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Quote: darkoz

Man, all you have to do find out about the gender gap is google it and dozens of articles will pop up. You Acting surprised there is a gender gap in equal pay is actually quite hilarious.

It's quite obvious you don't want to find out.
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Actually YOU are the one that does not want to find out.

See, if you google "gender gap" you will get an overall comparison of what men make vs. what women make. But that is not how it works.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less than the jobs men take. When I had managed the pest control company tech made more than office admins. But women rarely applied to be techs, they dominated the admin roles. Nobody stopped them, they just did not apply. That is just the example from where I was at. It goes on up and down the economy. It starts in college where women are more likely to choose a major that does not lead to high pay. The exception there is pharmacy, which over the 1980s went from almost all male to almost all female and stayed there since. So they can do it, just most choose easier majors.

Women take more time off than men. The biggest reason being to have kids, but that is a lifestyle choice.

The "gender gap" has been debunked many, many times. So I will challenge you again. Show me where women are getting paid less FOR THE SAME EXACT JOB. For a bonus, explain why the EEOC has not prosecuted. If you get good at this you could probably get some coin by getting a law firm involved, they would pay a referral.

Have at it!
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How about you prove it was debunked. Saying it is doesn't cut it.
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Try watching media that is not mainsteram media.
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Enough said.

You will back up your claims with bunk.

Good to know.
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When you want to show a flaw in my statements with logic I am all ears. Similar to how I showed the flaw in the "equal pay" statements you made. Otherwise I will take the above request and refrain from posting more on this off-topic drift.
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You have shown no flaw in any statements I made. You made some statements of your own with zero proof.

Here is a Harvard economists study that shows female lawyers and judges make 82% of what their male counterparts in the same jobs make.

It gets worse for doctors with female doctors paid 71% of what their male counterparts make.

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/how_much_less_do_women_lawyers_and_judges_earn_than_men#:~:text=Women%20lawyers%20and%20judges%20earn%20about%2082%20percent%20of%20what,a%20Harvard%20University%20labor%20economist.

You have proven nothing except you care to ignore a major problem in America with bunk.


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Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: darkoz

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Quote: darkoz

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Quote: darkoz

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Quote: darkoz

Man, all you have to do find out about the gender gap is google it and dozens of articles will pop up. You Acting surprised there is a gender gap in equal pay is actually quite hilarious.

It's quite obvious you don't want to find out.
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Actually YOU are the one that does not want to find out.

See, if you google "gender gap" you will get an overall comparison of what men make vs. what women make. But that is not how it works.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less than the jobs men take. When I had managed the pest control company tech made more than office admins. But women rarely applied to be techs, they dominated the admin roles. Nobody stopped them, they just did not apply. That is just the example from where I was at. It goes on up and down the economy. It starts in college where women are more likely to choose a major that does not lead to high pay. The exception there is pharmacy, which over the 1980s went from almost all male to almost all female and stayed there since. So they can do it, just most choose easier majors.

Women take more time off than men. The biggest reason being to have kids, but that is a lifestyle choice.

The "gender gap" has been debunked many, many times. So I will challenge you again. Show me where women are getting paid less FOR THE SAME EXACT JOB. For a bonus, explain why the EEOC has not prosecuted. If you get good at this you could probably get some coin by getting a law firm involved, they would pay a referral.

Have at it!
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How about you prove it was debunked. Saying it is doesn't cut it.
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Try watching media that is not mainsteram media.
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Enough said.

You will back up your claims with bunk.

Good to know.
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When you want to show a flaw in my statements with logic I am all ears. Similar to how I showed the flaw in the "equal pay" statements you made. Otherwise I will take the above request and refrain from posting more on this off-topic drift.
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You have shown no flaw in any statements I made. You made some statements of your own with zero proof.

Here is a Harvard economists study that shows female lawyers and judges make 82% of what their male counterparts in the same jobs make.

It gets worse for doctors with female doctors paid 71% of what their male counterparts make.

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/how_much_less_do_women_lawyers_and_judges_earn_than_men#:~:text=Women%20lawyers%20and%20judges%20earn%20about%2082%20percent%20of%20what,a%20Harvard%20University%20labor%20economist.

You have proven nothing except you care to ignore a major problem in America with bunk.


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Did you read this even though you quoted it?

That it is from Harvard makes it suspect from the getgo. That it calls out Republicans at the start confirms this. Then you read more. It states outright that it is mostly about hours worked. It says female engineers do not get out paid by make engineers but make female engineers will outearn make social workers.

IOW, it confirms what I am saying. Income differences are about career choices not gender. There is no organized discrimination going on. Not even unorganized from what I see.
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It’s relatively rare for women to earn more than men in the same job. Among all 132 occupations large enough to estimate earnings for women and men, there are only three where women earn marginally more than men—Compliance Officers (103.6 percent), Licensed Practical and Licensed Vocational Nurses (103.5 percent), and Wholesale and Retail Buyers, except Farm Products (102.1 percent)1.

Quote: rxwine

Posting only one time on this. I looked for the opposite trend just to see what was said. From Bing ai.

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It’s relatively rare for women to earn more than men in the same job. Among all 132 occupations large enough to estimate earnings for women and men, there are only three where women earn marginally more than men—Compliance Officers (103.6 percent), Licensed Practical and Licensed Vocational Nurses (103.5 percent), and Wholesale and Retail Buyers, except Farm Products (102.1 percent)1.

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Quote: darkoz

Quote: AZDuffman

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Quote: darkoz

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Quote: darkoz

Man, all you have to do find out about the gender gap is google it and dozens of articles will pop up. You Acting surprised there is a gender gap in equal pay is actually quite hilarious.

It's quite obvious you don't want to find out.
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Actually YOU are the one that does not want to find out.

See, if you google "gender gap" you will get an overall comparison of what men make vs. what women make. But that is not how it works.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less than the jobs men take. When I had managed the pest control company tech made more than office admins. But women rarely applied to be techs, they dominated the admin roles. Nobody stopped them, they just did not apply. That is just the example from where I was at. It goes on up and down the economy. It starts in college where women are more likely to choose a major that does not lead to high pay. The exception there is pharmacy, which over the 1980s went from almost all male to almost all female and stayed there since. So they can do it, just most choose easier majors.

Women take more time off than men. The biggest reason being to have kids, but that is a lifestyle choice.

The "gender gap" has been debunked many, many times. So I will challenge you again. Show me where women are getting paid less FOR THE SAME EXACT JOB. For a bonus, explain why the EEOC has not prosecuted. If you get good at this you could probably get some coin by getting a law firm involved, they would pay a referral.

Have at it!
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How about you prove it was debunked. Saying it is doesn't cut it.
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Try watching media that is not mainsteram media.
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Enough said.

You will back up your claims with bunk.

Good to know.
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When you want to show a flaw in my statements with logic I am all ears. Similar to how I showed the flaw in the "equal pay" statements you made. Otherwise I will take the above request and refrain from posting more on this off-topic drift.
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You have shown no flaw in any statements I made. You made some statements of your own with zero proof.

Here is a Harvard economists study that shows female lawyers and judges make 82% of what their male counterparts in the same jobs make.

It gets worse for doctors with female doctors paid 71% of what their male counterparts make.

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/how_much_less_do_women_lawyers_and_judges_earn_than_men#:~:text=Women%20lawyers%20and%20judges%20earn%20about%2082%20percent%20of%20what,a%20Harvard%20University%20labor%20economist.

You have proven nothing except you care to ignore a major problem in America with bunk.


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Did you read this even though you quoted it?

That it is from Harvard makes it suspect from the getgo. That it calls out Republicans at the start confirms this. Then you read more. It states outright that it is mostly about hours worked. It says female engineers do not get out paid by make engineers but make female engineers will outearn make social workers.

IOW, it confirms what I am saying. Income differences are about career choices not gender. There is no organized discrimination going on. Not even unorganized from what I see.
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Yeah Harvard is suspect, lol.

All those rich people paying to get in. Jokes on them.

Then you added something it doesn't even say lol.
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Quote: lilredrooster

how inane, ridiculous, presumptuous, and egotistical
beyond the pale
.
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Quote: rainman

Mr. Oz The left no longer beats the gender pay gap drum as they
have taken a beating in mainstream media debates, reason flawed
data flawed studies they don't even take into account time off
for child birth among other factors.
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Quote: lilredrooster

how inane, ridiculous, presumptuous, and egotistical
beyond the pale
.
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Quote: Wizard

Quote: lilredrooster

how inane, ridiculous, presumptuous, and egotistical
beyond the pale
.
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Three days.

p.s. I think that's three suspensions issued in five minutes. Trying to catch up from my own penance.
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Quote: Wizard

If any member has a heavy heart about hurting another something, you may confess to any moderator for sentencing.

Quote: MrV

I'm not going to "appeal." I simply disagree with your actions as being without foundation.

My comments are factual and supportable by "the record" here at WoV, so why cannot I speak an obvious truth?

We are what we are, or what we write here, and just because reality is not flattering does not elevate it to insult status.
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Quote: MrV

brags or forms of self-aggfrandizement
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