Taj Mahal closing down
August 6th, 2016 at 11:50:07 AM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesOne place isn't the bearer of all. Trust me, you'll pay more overall when minimum wages go up.
Even if that ends up being the case, I think it's a very one-dimensional way to look at the issue. I thoroughly believe that when everyone does better, we all do better. It would mean spending less tax payer money on cash assistance, medical, and housing programs all while increasing tax revenue to put towards things like infrastructure and education.
August 6th, 2016 at 12:07:25 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanThat is murkier still, but the reality is 60 days is near meaningless. They have to do something with the progressive and bad beat jackpots if there are any, that can take a few days alone. Which reminds me, where is Worm going to play now?
Does NJ have a rule that the progressive money has to be paid out when closing?
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August 6th, 2016 at 12:18:29 PM
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Yes but there are conflicting accounts- Atlantic club did roll over one of the progressive video poker machines but thats all I saw there at the time
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August 6th, 2016 at 12:47:44 PM
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Quote: DRichDoes NJ have a rule that the progressive money has to be paid out when closing?
I don't know but I would pay close attention to whatever they do. Often when a casino goes out of business they give away the progressive money in a drawing just before closing. Such drawings can be very positive EV.
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August 6th, 2016 at 1:12:38 PM
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A doubling of the minimum wage would change alot of things. As long as not working (what 1/3 of the workforce isn't participating?), until it makes tons more $$ to work as opposed to APing the government and the tax payers, the underemployed will continue to be a drag on the system. There are so many other factors that come into play, we need some AP Public Servants working on the math ;-)Quote: gamerfreakEven if that ends up being the case, I think it's a very one-dimensional way to look at the issue. I thoroughly believe that when everyone does better, we all do better. It would mean spending less tax payer money on cash assistance, medical, and housing programs all while increasing tax revenue to put towards things like infrastructure and education.
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
August 6th, 2016 at 1:55:08 PM
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Got my last royal from the taj
https://imgur.com/a/XdiXp
https://imgur.com/a/XdiXp
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August 6th, 2016 at 4:02:46 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanThe 60 days notice thing is just when the entire plant or employer closes. A single person does not have to be given that notice. That being said, if the union is on strike there is probably a loophole in there somewhere. Been 25 years since I had the college class on Collective Bargaining. Very touchy areas.
I was one of about 500 people that were involuntarily terminated that day. The company did not close and is still a fortune 500 company.
August 6th, 2016 at 4:08:44 PM
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Not one of the people picketing currently even works for the taj- or ever did - they are all from other casinos as of a couple days ago
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August 6th, 2016 at 4:23:18 PM
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Quote: WizardofnothingNot one of the people picketing currently even works for the taj- or ever did - they are all from other casinos as of a couple days ago
So the current striking employees aren't picketing at all?
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August 6th, 2016 at 4:29:16 PM
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Nope it's all people from other casinos - I knew one of them so I stopped and spoke to him for a second
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August 6th, 2016 at 4:29:17 PM
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Quote: FatGeezusThey could not close down tomorrow. They have to give the workers 60 days notice. That's what happened to me.
I was a supervisor in the data center for a fortune 500 company. They were starting to downsize. One day my boss came into my office and told me that I was being "INVOLUNTARILY TERMINATED". A politically correct term for YOU'RE FIRED. They were afraid that I would do something to sabotage the data center. I was told to pack my things and they escorted me out the door. I was told that I would be paid for the next 60 days.
In hindsight, without going into details, it was the best thing that ever happened to me.
I had a friend working for a 500 company. Came to work one day and his card key would not work at the front door. Need I finish ?
August 6th, 2016 at 4:39:10 PM
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Quote: Scan
The union supported Obama care yet they screamed when it looked like they had to be part of it.
I smile every time I hear of that happening to a union!
I never got the whole benefit of unions taking member dues to get Obamacare, or a higher minimum wage, or some other law passed. I mean, if everyone has health coverage then what on earth are the members paying dues for?
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August 6th, 2016 at 4:42:15 PM
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Unions are the scam of scams that's why the mob was always involved in them- I had no choice but to join when I was 16 and a cashier at a food store it was a total scam then as well and I got nothing basically and paid dues that I couldn't afford and initiation fee/ total bull
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August 6th, 2016 at 4:49:39 PM
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My two cents is that workers should have every right to organize and labor should have every right to fire them if they strike.
My question is what is the reason the Taj doesn't do as the Frontier did by firing striking workers and replacing them by non-union labor? Possible answer:
1. No worker would dare cross the picket line.
2. It would break the law (please specify which law).
3. Not enough time to train new staff.
4. They were going to go out of business anyway -- why put it off.
Thank you.
My question is what is the reason the Taj doesn't do as the Frontier did by firing striking workers and replacing them by non-union labor? Possible answer:
1. No worker would dare cross the picket line.
2. It would break the law (please specify which law).
3. Not enough time to train new staff.
4. They were going to go out of business anyway -- why put it off.
Thank you.
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August 6th, 2016 at 4:52:21 PM
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I'm guessing it could be a problem because Icahn owns the trop which is the same Union
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August 6th, 2016 at 5:15:28 PM
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Quote: WizardMy two cents is that workers should have every right to organize and labor should have every right to fire them if they strike.
My question is what is the reason the Taj doesn't do as the Frontier did by firing striking workers and replacing them by non-union labor? Possible answer:
1. No worker would dare cross the picket line.
2. It would break the law (please specify which law).
3. Not enough time to train new staff.
4. They were going to go out of business anyway -- why put it off.
Thank you.
It is a mix. In some strikes you cross the line at considerable peril. OTOH, it is not near as bad as it used to be. If things are bad, workers cross. Has basically always happened and always will. Some places you had better really consider it, but I knew people who had to cross to keep food in the fridge. It would come down to how long the union could take dues from other workers they represent to subsidize the striking workers. I have seen and was very shortly on an informational picket line. I did not last because you really get just dregs of society, willing to stand around for minimum wage. Eventually the union usually gives up throwing money away, the people that need taken care of have been and it all ends.
It would not break a law. IIRC they have to offer the union members the right to cross, but as it should be if workers strike they can be replaced. The Casino would have to negotiate "in good faith" but you can drive a F-350 thru that loophole with room to spare.
Training new staff an issue but at that skill level not the biggest issue. Continental trained all kinds of new staff to crush a strike a generation ago. Time hard to say how much they had and what you are asking. Did they have a bond payment due? Big conventions?
Which brings us to #4 and IMHO what did it. I have not been there in 20 years but the comments indicate it has not been updated since. When you break a strike in this fashion you take a PR beating. Not as bad as 30 years ago, but you take a beating. Maybe 1 in 5 people will just never consider you for doing business if you consider 10% unionization in the USA, half those being militant, and then add in friends, family, and people brought up union and have never changed. One way to make that up is low prices. This cheapens your image. Lets go back to Continental Airlines. They had a decade of surviving on low fares. Taj would end up having to do something similar.
This happens every now and then. Remember Hostess? Crazy union demands, management finally said it was over. Some unions, and UNITE Here is one of the far more socialist ones, just do not get to get good wages the boss has to make money. Walter Reuther famously said that, yet it is forgotten. There is a macho thing about striking, "bringing the greedy company to its knees." The union always thinks the company is crying wolf. Sometimes, the wolf finally comes.
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August 8th, 2016 at 8:14:33 PM
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The reason the mobs originally got in with the unions, was because the striking workers needed protection from company thugs, most of whom were in law enforcement.
August 10th, 2016 at 8:14:22 AM
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Atlantic club did NOT give out all their progressive money.Quote: WizardI don't know but I would pay close attention to whatever they do. Often when a casino goes out of business they give away the progressive money in a drawing just before closing. Such drawings can be very positive EV.
And The Revel I don't think they did either.
No one can show me anything that says they have to.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 10th, 2016 at 9:01:34 AM
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Both closed in bankruptcy and were given an out. No telling what will happen there in the wild, wild ac.Quote: AxelWolfAtlantic club did NOT give out all their progressive money.
And The Revel I don't think they did either.
No one can show me anything that says they have to.
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August 10th, 2016 at 9:21:11 AM
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I thought I remembered Atlantic Club having a bunch of drawings for free play right before they closed to give away progressives.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
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August 10th, 2016 at 9:58:24 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfAtlantic club did NOT give out all their progressive money.
And The Revel I don't think they did either.
No one can show me anything that says they have to.
Going back 10 years I recall the Sands giving it away in drawings. But that's doesn't mean they HAD to, just that they did. But that was a different time in AC and Pinacle was eager to build on the site. Now a giant empty lot.
August 10th, 2016 at 10:29:41 AM
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One must go around and add up all the overage of the progressives. It's not always easy on all slots to know exactly what the reset is. I'm not saying they didn't give any out but it seemed considerably short. As long as they make a valid attempt I guess that's all anyone can ask for.
LOL @ MaxPen I think he went around and added up everything including mini must hits at Mermaids and whatever the one across the street is called. Very Nice +EV situation. We thought we had it all locked up with hundreds and hundreds of ticket, but Bad beats on the drawings. game set match to the ploppies
*Shrugs*
LOL @ MaxPen I think he went around and added up everything including mini must hits at Mermaids and whatever the one across the street is called. Very Nice +EV situation. We thought we had it all locked up with hundreds and hundreds of ticket, but Bad beats on the drawings. game set match to the ploppies
*Shrugs*
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 10th, 2016 at 12:00:05 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfNo one can show me anything that says they have to.
Nor can I. I'm only claiming it is a Nevada law and could be wrong there too.
What happened to progressive money when Binion's suddenly got closed down?
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August 11th, 2016 at 11:10:14 AM
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I was looking at the photos today of when Taj first was being built. Each letter on the building had to be hoisted up by helicopter, then people hanging onto the building nudged the letters into place. The Trump name is built in everywhere in that place. Who knows, maybe after the election people mourning and relishing his loss, will want to go to that casino. I don't think he'll win and I no longer believe Taj is really going to close or stay closed for long. The northern new jersey casino issue will matter in this happening. We'll see.Quote: gamerfreakAnother one bites the dust.
I really feel like Trumps name is -EV especially after this election. I can't believe people still pay him to use the name.
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August 11th, 2016 at 1:07:39 PM
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I don't remember anymore. What year was that?Quote: WizardNor can I. I'm only claiming it is a Nevada law and could be wrong there too.
What happened to progressive money when Binion's suddenly got closed down?
I remember they got shut down briefly because they didn't have enough money in the cage to cover everything.
I'm still not sure if all the progressive money from LVC went to Plaza, I swear they had a keno and some slot progressive around. I didn't see it at Plaza but I didn't really scour everything.
When they shut down the back part of LVC I fairly certain they didn't distribute everything to the front.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 11th, 2016 at 1:15:54 PM
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Quote: WizardNor can I. I'm only claiming it is a Nevada law and could be wrong there too.
I don't know if it is a "law" but Nevada Gaming has put out this memorandum for casino closures. I just happened to run across this yesterday.
http://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=299
5. Plans for disposition of any progressive amounts. The disposition of all inhouse
progressives (e.g., slots, poker, keno, bingo, and table game
progressives) should be included in the plan. This would include any
progressive that had been temporarily removed from the floor pursuant to
NGC Regulation 5.110(6). Additionally, the plan should state whether intercasino
linked systems (ILS) will remain on the floor. If ILS are to be
removed, the licensee should coordinate with the operator of the ILS to
ensure compliance with NGC Regulation 5.112(6) and (7) and address the
resolution in the plan. Some progressive disposition plans will require
Board approval. Separate correspondence seeking approval pursuant to
NGC Regulation 5.110(5) and (7) should be sent to the Board at least thirty
days prior to the closure to allow sufficient time for disbursement of
progressive amounts (if required) in advance of the closure.
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August 11th, 2016 at 1:25:35 PM
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Quote: DRichI don't know if it is a "law" but Nevada Gaming has put out this memorandum for casino closures.
Nevada Gaming Regulation 5.510:
5. A licensee shall not reduce the amount of a progressive payoff schedule or otherwise eliminate a progressive payoff schedule unless:
(a) A player wins the progressive payoff schedule;
(b) The licensee adjusts the progressive payoff schedule to correct a malfunction or to prevent the display of an amount greater than a limit imposed pursuant to subsection 4, and the licensee documents the adjustment and the reasons for it;
(c) The licensee distributes the entire incremental amount to another single progressive payoff schedule on similar game(s) or machine(s) at the licensee’s establishment and:
(1) The licensee documents the distribution;
(2) Any game or slot machine offering the payoff schedule to which the licensee distributes the incremental amount does not require that more money be played on a single play to win the payoff schedule than the game or slot machine from which the incremental amount is distributed unless the incremental amount distributed is increased in proportion to the increase in the amount of the wager required to win the payoff schedule;
(3) If from a slot machine, any slot machine offering the payoff schedule to which the incremental amount is distributed complies with the minimum theoretical payout requirement of Regulation 14.040(1); and
(4) The distribution is completed within 30 days after the progressive payoff schedule is removed from play or within such longer period as the chairman may for good cause approve;
(d) For games other than slot machines, the incremental amount may be distributed within 90 days of removal through a concluding contest, tournament or promotion and the contest, tournament or promotion is conducted with a game(s) similar to the game(s) from which the amounts are distributed; or
(e) The chairman, upon a showing of exceptional circumstances, approves a reduction, elimination, distribution, or procedure not otherwise described in this subsection, which approval is confirmed in writing.
6. A progressive payoff schedule may be temporarily removed for a period of up to 30 days to allow for the remodeling of the licensed gaming establishment, or for such longer period or other good cause as the chairman may approve.
7. Except as otherwise provided by this section, the incremental amount of a progressive payoff schedule is an obligation to the licensee’s patrons, and it shall be the responsibility of the licensee if he ceases operation of the progressive game or slot machine for any reason, including a transfer of ownership of the licensed gaming establishment, to arrange for satisfaction of that obligation in a manner approved by the chairman.
August 11th, 2016 at 1:28:18 PM
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Quote: gamerfreakEven if that ends up being the case, I think it's a very one-dimensional way to look at the issue. I thoroughly believe that when everyone does better, we all do better. It would mean spending less tax payer money on cash assistance, medical, and housing programs all while increasing tax revenue to put towards things like infrastructure and education.
Ummmm... NO! If CEO makes 1 million a year he pays, oh, 400k in state and federal taxes (NY). If he makes 2 million a year he pays maybe 820k. If that extra million is given to 500 workers to boost them from 20k a year to 22k a year, since they pay no federal or state taxes at those levels, the feds and state get LESS when the wealthy make less and the poor make more.
You may still want the poor to make more for a variety of good reasons, but increasing tax revenue is certainly not one of them.
August 11th, 2016 at 5:21:49 PM
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Quote: GWAEI thought I remembered Atlantic Club having a bunch of drawings for free play right before they closed to give away progressives.
Any chance some of those funds were transferred along with the machines to the Trop?
August 12th, 2016 at 10:14:45 AM
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Quote: WizardofnothingNope it's all people from other casinos - I knew one of them so I stopped and spoke to him for a second
That was also my experience when looking for people to interview. Here's my Article on it, which also includes an interview with Ben Albert, one of the head Unite Here organizers:
https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/trump-taj-majal-to-close/
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
August 12th, 2016 at 11:52:22 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOUmmmm... NO! If CEO makes 1 million a year he pays, oh, 400k in state and federal taxes (NY). If he makes 2 million a year he pays maybe 820k. If that extra million is given to 500 workers to boost them from 20k a year to 22k a year, since they pay no federal or state taxes at those levels, the feds and state get LESS when the wealthy make less and the poor make more.
You may still want the poor to make more for a variety of good reasons, but increasing tax revenue is certainly not one of them.
You're probably right for federal income taxes. You're probably not right for total taxes. Lots of "poor" people owning and buying things is gangbusters for sales and property taxes. Enough so that the effect almost certainly exceeds the benefit from 1 rich person paying one time and then placing the money atop their stack of savings.
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August 12th, 2016 at 12:53:09 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusYou're probably right for federal income taxes. You're probably not right for total taxes. Lots of "poor" people owning and buying things is gangbusters for sales and property taxes. Enough so that the effect almost certainly exceeds the benefit from 1 rich person paying one time and then placing the money atop their stack of savings.
Warren Buffet famously noted that he pays a lower total tax rate than his secretary.
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August 12th, 2016 at 1:11:07 PM
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Quote: WizardWarren Buffet famously noted that he pays a lower total tax rate than his secretary.
It is because of lower rates on capital gains tax, so I would like to ask if he really thinks a higher rate on that is a good idea? Once you are retired you realize how important that break is.
On the other hand, supposedly hedge fund managers benefit and it's hard for me to accept - seems like they have a loophole. Something tells me they are smart enough to make big political contributions.
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August 12th, 2016 at 1:12:26 PM
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Quote: ECoasterAny chance some of those funds were transferred along with the machines to the Trop?
I was thinking that at first as well. It is possible.
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August 12th, 2016 at 1:31:50 PM
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Quote: WizardWarren Buffet famously noted that he pays a lower total tax rate than his secretary.
In addition to odiousgambits comment, which is true, is what do you consider the CONTRIBUTIONS you make into the social security system? Mr. Buffet considers it a tax, and his tax and his secretary's for SS is the same, as it ends at 115,000 or so, so around $9000 for each of them. And I am guessing Mr. Buffet contributes so much to charity he claims a large deduction WHICH HE DESERVES!
August 14th, 2016 at 10:43:16 AM
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Just came back from AC and had a long talk with one of the strikers that I knew when I played there.
Asked what she thought about Taj shutting down. She has had four previous such letters so the strikers do not believe it will be shut down.
She had a shift where she had to be outside from 7pm till 4 am.
My feelings are if the strikers do not want players playing while they are on strike and make it uncomfortable for patrons to go in now, what makes them think that these same patrons that they turned away wants to come back when the strike is over.
Told her that there is not enough of a pie to be split up with all the casinos opened in PA, MD. and DE. She felt that the casino in making money and the financial report is wrong.
Inside the casino was dead. They had two craps table with $5 mim with almost no players. I could not get a room comped because I have not given them any action in over a year. Taj knows how to make a bad situation worse.
I don't know what will happen in the end but Taj used to be my "home" casino in AC but it demise does not seem far away.
Asked what she thought about Taj shutting down. She has had four previous such letters so the strikers do not believe it will be shut down.
She had a shift where she had to be outside from 7pm till 4 am.
My feelings are if the strikers do not want players playing while they are on strike and make it uncomfortable for patrons to go in now, what makes them think that these same patrons that they turned away wants to come back when the strike is over.
Told her that there is not enough of a pie to be split up with all the casinos opened in PA, MD. and DE. She felt that the casino in making money and the financial report is wrong.
Inside the casino was dead. They had two craps table with $5 mim with almost no players. I could not get a room comped because I have not given them any action in over a year. Taj knows how to make a bad situation worse.
I don't know what will happen in the end but Taj used to be my "home" casino in AC but it demise does not seem far away.
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August 14th, 2016 at 10:47:09 AM
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Hmmmm weird I just literally walked out of there- seemed normal action- they haven't changed much except they cancelled the free buffet offers- as far as closing im 100 certain they are closing- my host is already going to Tropicana October first - they already had two shut down meetings and canceled anyone gettin a new credit line as well as any incentives on the host part for coming in. Also their two 50k slot tournaments were cancelled -
Slots have same normal traffic and rooms are booked- mostly with people using there comp offers before they are gone
Slots have same normal traffic and rooms are booked- mostly with people using there comp offers before they are gone
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September 2nd, 2016 at 11:24:45 PM
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So everything good of the business, the chips, tickets, credit lines, gift cards you can use at Tropicana, and everything directly tied to Taj debt, player comps, whatever no good by 10.11.16.
They're not telling people gaming can cash these things like they have when casinos closed in 2014. I'm suspicious something might be hidden in plain sight here, just for that reason. I'm just thinking out loud here, maybe the closure is a pseudo-closure head fake.
These are separate companies owned by the same guy, aren't they? If Tropicana can cash these gaming chips, can the other casinos? I just am not getting the link besides Icahn owning both. It's good Trop can hope to keep players rather than losing them to the city entirely, but it is also fishy to me.
Other casinos would want to cash these things if Trop can, so why can't they. The casinos could have even paid premiums getting their chips, then hoard them getting table people early if Taj ran out of usable chips from their hoards.
I'm just really stuck on this not mentioning going to gaming to cash tickets and reading into it. It is difficult finding new info and stories since the searches pop up the initial closure announcement. Doesn't gaming have to christen a casino closure officially and casinos can't just close permanently independently.
They're not telling people gaming can cash these things like they have when casinos closed in 2014. I'm suspicious something might be hidden in plain sight here, just for that reason. I'm just thinking out loud here, maybe the closure is a pseudo-closure head fake.
These are separate companies owned by the same guy, aren't they? If Tropicana can cash these gaming chips, can the other casinos? I just am not getting the link besides Icahn owning both. It's good Trop can hope to keep players rather than losing them to the city entirely, but it is also fishy to me.
Other casinos would want to cash these things if Trop can, so why can't they. The casinos could have even paid premiums getting their chips, then hoard them getting table people early if Taj ran out of usable chips from their hoards.
I'm just really stuck on this not mentioning going to gaming to cash tickets and reading into it. It is difficult finding new info and stories since the searches pop up the initial closure announcement. Doesn't gaming have to christen a casino closure officially and casinos can't just close permanently independently.
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September 2nd, 2016 at 11:33:42 PM
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Taj in not in bankruptcy- Icahn owns it all and can easily sell the debt of the markers to his other holdings- I'm sure the lawyers are or alresdy have worked out merging the assets if they do close- the already have switched over to trop marketing structure and they have the same general manager tony rodio
I still think taj may not close but if they do you can guarantee the trop will have their data base and there will be some new offers from
Trop for taj players
I still think taj may not close but if they do you can guarantee the trop will have their data base and there will be some new offers from
Trop for taj players
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September 3rd, 2016 at 1:00:47 AM
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Quote: WizardofnothingTaj in not in bankruptcy- Icahn owns it all and can easily sell the debt of the markers to his other holdings- I'm sure the lawyers are or alresdy have worked out merging the assets if they do close- the already have switched over to trop marketing structure and they have the same general manager tony rodio
I still think taj may not close but if they do you can guarantee the trop will have their data base and there will be some new offers from
Trop for taj players
Isn't there some sort of last rite procedure gaming performs a casino must go through closing a casino, ending with surrendering the gaming license? Thought it was regulated you cannot just close by saying you're closing, but it must be official.
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September 3rd, 2016 at 7:40:17 AM
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I'd buy it, create a "non-smoking section" and offer 10x craps, single deck blackjack, euro roulette and draw poker. I'd have a monopoly on those things in AC and it would have a shot. If you have 1 sd table, it's usually crowded and most counters can't beat it.
September 3rd, 2016 at 9:39:30 AM
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Quote: billionairebenI'd buy it, create a "non-smoking section" and offer 10x craps, single deck blackjack, euro roulette and draw poker. I'd have a monopoly on those things in AC and it would have a shot. If you have 1 sd table, it's usually crowded and most counters can't beat it.
With their aggressive marketing, Taj was actually somewhat on the right track compared to last year. It is doubtful that they were profitable, but one interesting fact is that they and Resorts were the only two AC properties to have increased revenue in June '16 as opposed to June '15. For the others, last year was better.
July might have been a promising month had it not been for the strike, but likely because of the strike, they performed poorly as compared to June, up less than 2%. The average AC property, if you don't consider Trump, was something around 20%.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
September 9th, 2016 at 3:20:35 PM
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There is a formal procedure for closing, which was filed September 2nd.Quote: onenickelmiracleIsn't there some sort of last rite procedure gaming performs a casino must go through closing a casino, ending with surrendering the gaming license? Thought it was regulated you cannot just close by saying you're closing, but it must be official.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/owner-files-formal-petition-close-152317051.html
Here I was contemplating the casino might only appear closed with doors locked, lights out, no employees or customers, but had no idea why sleeps mode would be desirable unless the casino wanted to open again without a formal approval.
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September 9th, 2016 at 6:47:32 PM
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The link you kindly provided indicates it's still open? I thought it was closing right after the Labor Day weekend? Is it open right now, rooms available and the casino open?
September 9th, 2016 at 6:49:07 PM
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My last visit to the Taj I lost a don't pass bet on a hard ten. Never forgot or forgave them. Oddly I also recall they had two young boxmen at every table. These days in Las Vegas I read there aren't any boxmen "to save cost of labor".
September 9th, 2016 at 7:23:21 PM
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It has been set to close October 10th. I mentioned a formal closure since the statements in their casino mail seemed missing the usual wording about being able to visit gaming offices to cash chips and tickets. Around the same time, Taj was finally going through the process of formal closure September 2nd, but the state is just admitting it publicly now.Quote: NokTangThe link you kindly provided indicates it's still open? I thought it was closing right after the Labor Day weekend? Is it open right now, rooms available and the casino open?
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October 9th, 2016 at 3:30:03 AM
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On the way in to AC, every casino has their pitch on billboards to Taj players. Offers include 5x comps, free play match, tier match and more. I assume these are for new players to that casino only, and I doubt there are many of those out there, but they may be able to pick up some nice offers if there are.
October 9th, 2016 at 4:55:26 AM
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pm for more info if you need it boz
No longer hiring, don’t ask because I won’t hire you either
October 9th, 2016 at 1:25:09 PM
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RIP: Taj
Oh, how the mighty has fallen.
Had some great times there last century.
Also RIP in that pic: Showboat (left of Taj) + Revel (big bldg. behind Taj)
How soon b4 Resorts (in front of Taj) goes down, leaving that whole end of the Boardwalk barren?
That just leaves 7:
Boardwalk- Resorts, Ballys, Caesars, Tropicana
Marina- Harrahs, Borgata/MGM, Golden Nugget (former Trump Marina?)
Who's the next to go?
Oh, how the mighty has fallen.
Had some great times there last century.
Also RIP in that pic: Showboat (left of Taj) + Revel (big bldg. behind Taj)
How soon b4 Resorts (in front of Taj) goes down, leaving that whole end of the Boardwalk barren?
That just leaves 7:
Boardwalk- Resorts, Ballys, Caesars, Tropicana
Marina- Harrahs, Borgata/MGM, Golden Nugget (former Trump Marina?)
Who's the next to go?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
October 9th, 2016 at 1:36:31 PM
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Probably Bally's or Caesars top that list.
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