flag the spammer please
January 18th, 2012 at 8:29:17 PM
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Two of us have to do it to remove the posts. I hit the ones I saw.
A falling knife has no handle.
January 18th, 2012 at 8:33:50 PM
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I flagged them too.
January 18th, 2012 at 8:36:24 PM
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i did 10min ago
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 18th, 2012 at 9:06:50 PM
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Me too but the posts are still there.
January 18th, 2012 at 9:27:05 PM
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Removed.
January 18th, 2012 at 9:33:52 PM
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Looks as if he has moved on to posting in the free speech zone. Guess spam is allowed there -- can't flag a post.
January 18th, 2012 at 9:46:42 PM
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There's bug in the forums where a removed post still shows up in the latest post list on the front page.
Probably should be fixed...
Probably should be fixed...
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
January 19th, 2012 at 4:03:19 AM
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This is getting bad. Hope the Wizard or JB gets up soon.
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January 19th, 2012 at 4:11:00 AM
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Quote: mipletThis is getting bad. Hope the Wizard or JB gets up soon.
I'm seeing this, too.
January 19th, 2012 at 4:14:14 AM
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I can't keep up
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
January 19th, 2012 at 4:24:02 AM
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I did 10, but I can't keep doing this.
May G-d or Nareed or FrGamble or whatever this forum believes in save us from this plague.
May G-d or Nareed or FrGamble or whatever this forum believes in save us from this plague.
January 19th, 2012 at 4:27:14 AM
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Me too.Quote: s2dbakerI can't keep up
Unless I missed some, I just flagged all (currently) 88 of his posts.
SOME of them did dissapear, so it DOES work....
I'm gonna ask the Wiz if it's possible to appoint moderators that can step in while he's unavailable. (He's probably sleeping during this...)
I'd volunteer to be one of those moderators.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
January 19th, 2012 at 4:28:45 AM
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Sigh...
In the short time it took me to post the above, there are EIGHT new threads from this guy...
In the short time it took me to post the above, there are EIGHT new threads from this guy...
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
January 19th, 2012 at 4:36:12 AM
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hopefully, he'll run out of topics in which to place his spam and move on to the next forum. Its difficultwebsite to believethe that this spamming works but I have to assume that it does otherwise no one would do it.Quote: DJTeddyBearSigh...
In the short time it took me to post the above, there are EIGHT new threads from this guy...
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
January 19th, 2012 at 4:52:06 AM
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Timing is everything.Quote: DJTeddyBearSigh...
In the short time it took me to post the above, there are EIGHT new threads from this guy...
That was the last of it. Although there were about 30 new messages between when I started flagging and when I posted my first reply above.
I say the same thing about the Nigerian Princess who can't spell or compose a sentence to save her life.Quote: s2dbakerIts difficult to believe that this spamming works but I have to assume that it does otherwise no one would do it.
Call it morbid curiosity, but I'd like to know what the hell this guy is selling. It LOOKS like stolen credit card info.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
January 19th, 2012 at 5:28:49 AM
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Is there anyway we can backtrack to him and mount a counter attack?
Gambling is a metaphor for life. Hang around long enough and it's all gone.
January 19th, 2012 at 5:37:37 AM
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I have recently seen this very same post word for word on another site and the moderators got rid of it immediately. I believe they somehow blocked it from reappearing or maybe the poster just gave up.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
January 19th, 2012 at 5:40:16 AM
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Sure. It's not hard to do. I'm a moderator on a DJ board, and the power at my fingertips is amazing!
The problem is, there are only two people here that have that capability: The Wizard and JB.
And since they are both in Las Vegas, it's not hard to figure out why they aren't responding.
Hint: The time indicated on posts is the time in Las Vegas.
The problem is, there are only two people here that have that capability: The Wizard and JB.
And since they are both in Las Vegas, it's not hard to figure out why they aren't responding.
Hint: The time indicated on posts is the time in Las Vegas.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
January 19th, 2012 at 5:55:38 AM
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Stolen credit card info.
It doesn't seem to be a normal spambot, however - xrumer usually works as "one account, one thread". Could be that someone who has a beef with the board intentionally set a bot on it, or that a bot glitched.
I noticed the CAPTCHA used is very simple and dated; it's easily cracked by any bot. What has helped me before is simply using a different CAPTCHA font, preferably something non-standard. If possible, an upgrade to ReCatpcha is further more reliable.
It doesn't seem to be a normal spambot, however - xrumer usually works as "one account, one thread". Could be that someone who has a beef with the board intentionally set a bot on it, or that a bot glitched.
I noticed the CAPTCHA used is very simple and dated; it's easily cracked by any bot. What has helped me before is simply using a different CAPTCHA font, preferably something non-standard. If possible, an upgrade to ReCatpcha is further more reliable.
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January 19th, 2012 at 6:25:21 AM
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WE'RE UNDER ATTACK!
Suggestion: Limit the number of threads someone can start in a span of a few minutes or an hour.
Advanced Suggestion: Do not permit a user to post the SAME thing twice in span of an hour or a day.
Suggestion: Limit the number of threads someone can start in a span of a few minutes or an hour.
Advanced Suggestion: Do not permit a user to post the SAME thing twice in span of an hour or a day.
Wisdom is the quality that keeps you out of situations where you would otherwise need it
January 19th, 2012 at 6:45:17 AM
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Yeah, If I were to come up with some automated limitations, it would be:
Maximum of 1 new thread per day for the first week of membership.
Minimum of 1 hour between new threads for old members. (Has anybody ever needed to create more than one thread at a time?)
Minimum of 30 minutes between new posts for new members.
Minimum of 2 minutes between new posts for old members. This is more to prevent the double post issue.
No limit on editing existing posts. (I've posted, then upon noticing typos, edited several times within a few minutes of posting...)
Maximum of 1 new thread per day for the first week of membership.
Minimum of 1 hour between new threads for old members. (Has anybody ever needed to create more than one thread at a time?)
Minimum of 30 minutes between new posts for new members.
Minimum of 2 minutes between new posts for old members. This is more to prevent the double post issue.
No limit on editing existing posts. (I've posted, then upon noticing typos, edited several times within a few minutes of posting...)
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
January 19th, 2012 at 6:57:36 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearYeah, If I were to come up with some automated limitations, it would be:
Maximum of 1 new thread per day for the first week of membership.
Minimum of 1 hour between new threads for old members. (Has anybody ever needed to create more than one thread at a time?)
Minimum of 30 minutes between new posts for new members.
Minimum of 2 minutes between new posts for old members. This is more to prevent the double post issue.
No limit on editing existing posts. (I've posted, then upon noticing typos, edited several times within a few minutes of posting...)
That would work for me. The only times I've created more than one thread at a time have been when I've come back from a trip and wanted to comment on several aspects of it. But I could easily just take more time to organize and refine my thoughts during the posting process.
Edit: I also just spent the last 20 minutes flagging the spam. My flags only caused about half of the messages to get blasted, so more flagging is required.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
January 19th, 2012 at 6:59:16 AM
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The wizards forums are hand coded, bespoke software. Changes to policy are dependent on a developers time.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
January 19th, 2012 at 7:09:28 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearYeah, If I were to come up with some automated limitations, it would be:
Maximum of 1 new thread per day for the first week of membership.
Minimum of 1 hour between new threads for old members. (Has anybody ever needed to create more than one thread at a time?)
Minimum of 30 minutes between new posts for new members.
Minimum of 2 minutes between new posts for old members. This is more to prevent the double post issue.
That's overly restrictive and only addresses the issue of this weird bot that doesn't spam multiple accounts.
I've had inconveniences with forums where there's 30 second limitation between posts. Most commonly it comes when I just finish sending a post in one thread, click "reply" in another (next in line), and it tells me to wait.
Sometimes you don't have a constant internet connection, so have to type your new posts/threads offline, then connect and send them. A 2-minute post wait time would make it very annoying, and a 1-hour wait outright impossible if you do need to post 2 threads.
A minimum of 30 minutes between posts for new members would make dialog virtually impossible (e.g. the newbie asks a legit question, you ask for clarification, etc.)
A maximum of 1 thread per day for newbies could curtail some unnecessary threads, but it's a very hierarchic restriction.
In short, any such limitations inconvenience legitimate members. We should treat the problem, by at least replacing the CAPTCHA font (it's really easy, just drop in another file), rather than just try curtailing the symptoms. Rather than implement restrictions, the time could be better spent integrating ReCaptcha and/or a bot-trap hidden field into the registration form.
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January 19th, 2012 at 8:37:50 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearYeah, If I were to come up with some automated limitations, it would be:
Maximum of 1 new thread per day for the first week of membership.
Minimum of 1 hour between new threads for old members. (Has anybody ever needed to create more than one thread at a time?)
Minimum of 30 minutes between new posts for new members.
Minimum of 2 minutes between new posts for old members. This is more to prevent the double post issue.
No limit on editing existing posts. (I've posted, then upon noticing typos, edited several times within a few minutes of posting...)
Eh, be more lenient. 2 threads per day for first week. 2 threads in an hour for old members. 10 minutes post for new members.
January 19th, 2012 at 8:51:43 AM
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Whatever.
On to more important news:
It seems like enough members have flagged those messages. They're gone.
At least, except for the ones in FSZ....
On to more important news:
It seems like enough members have flagged those messages. They're gone.
At least, except for the ones in FSZ....
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
January 19th, 2012 at 11:40:55 AM
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You would have to get a mod or two that were 100% non-bias (ROFL)......good luck.
Ken
Ken
January 19th, 2012 at 11:42:08 AM
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I'm not sure if this is a possibility, but what about the ability to give certain users a pseudo-moderator status? There are members of this forum that have been here forever, are active participants in almost all discussions, and, in my opinion anyway, have the best interests of the forum as a whole at heart. Giving these certain members, and I'm only talking about a few people, the ability to perhaps put a stop to some of these spammers might be nice. In other words, these select individuals could put a "pause" on someone, until the official moderators would have a chance to come in and find out what's going on.
January 19th, 2012 at 11:48:49 AM
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"best interests of the forum" >>> Sounds bias to me.
Ken
Ken
January 19th, 2012 at 12:07:44 PM
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Quote: mrjjj"best interests of the forum" >>> Sounds bias to me.
Ken
That's because muting you is in the best interest of the forum.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
January 19th, 2012 at 12:23:08 PM
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I reckon it's probably obvious, but I have nothing to do whatsoever with this 'face2' clown. Frankly, I'm somewhat irked at his moniker.
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
January 19th, 2012 at 1:03:07 PM
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I just flagged his posts and banned him. Sorry it took so long but I was visiting Laughlin for a couple days (stay tuned for my report).
There were some good suggestions in this thread that JB and me will discuss.
There were some good suggestions in this thread that JB and me will discuss.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
January 19th, 2012 at 1:37:42 PM
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I was momentarilly surprised this morning - during the 3.5 seconds it took me to realize it wasn't you.Quote: FaceI reckon it's probably obvious, but I have nothing to do whatsoever with this 'face2' clown. Frankly, I'm somewhat irked at his moniker.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
January 19th, 2012 at 1:43:35 PM
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Just to clarify, are 2 flags still enough to remove a post?
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January 19th, 2012 at 1:47:48 PM
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Quote: P90Just to clarify, are 2 flags still enough to remove a post?
Apparently not. Several long-time members discussed flagging those posts hours before I flagged them, but even adding my flags didn't bring all of them down. I guess the spammer could have just been that amazingly prolific, but I flagged about 40 of those posts at about 8:30am CST this morning.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
January 19th, 2012 at 1:53:29 PM
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I flagged them all (unless I misses some), at 7:20EST, WHILE new spam threads were being created.
At least one of them DID evaporate when I flagged it.
At least one of them DID evaporate when I flagged it.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
January 19th, 2012 at 1:56:40 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI was momentarilly surprised this morning - during the 3.5 seconds it took me to realize it wasn't you.
No way, I hate this stuff. That he would defile my name makes it worse ;) I know Wiz and I haven't interacted much, but I'm here often. I'd throw my name in the hat for potential spam buster should the need be there.
Quote: P90Just to clarify, are 2 flags still enough to remove a post?
I remember "big" members where given power where 2 would do it, but the criteria wasn't specified other than "been here a long time"
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
January 19th, 2012 at 2:03:11 PM
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It used to be 20 points of power, where users got a point per month of being here, up to a maximum of X (10?). I think the Number of points to remove a post went up, as it was too easy for two veteran users to remove a borderline post they didn't like (and happened... though the person it happened to was banned a few weeks later... )
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
January 19th, 2012 at 2:05:26 PM
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So he kept going after 3am EST? There had 15 threads by
that time and I went to bed.
that time and I went to bed.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2012 at 2:08:42 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI'm gonna ask the Wiz if it's possible to appoint moderators that can step in while he's unavailable. (He's probably sleeping during this...)
I'd volunteer to be one of those moderators.
Everyone here is a moderator, just not with complete control.
Quote: thecesspitIt used to be 20 points of power, where users got a point per month of being here, up to a maximum of X (10?). I think the Number of points to remove a post went up, as it was too easy for two veteran users to remove a borderline post they didn't like (and happened... though the person it happened to was banned a few weeks later... )
That's pretty close to how it was originally, however, it has since changed, and will now change again.
Quote: P90Just to clarify, are 2 flags still enough to remove a post?
Sometimes. The exact formula is a secret.
The underlying problem is that members are (currently) only banned manually, therefore the spammer was able to keep starting new threads no matter how many times his posts were flagged.
So obviously what is needed is a form of automatic banning. I think I have come up with a way to implement it that will minimize the chance of legitimate members getting banned (i.e. people who have their posts flagged by other people who simply don't like them), which I am discussing with the Wizard.
Thank you to everyone who flagged this guy's posts! Once automatic banning is implemented, your efforts at flagging spammers will be far more effective than they were this time.
January 19th, 2012 at 2:15:16 PM
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Quote: thecesspitIt used to be 20 points of power, where users got a point per month of being here, up to a maximum of X (10?). I think the Number of points to remove a post went up, as it was too easy for two veteran users to remove a borderline post they didn't like (and happened... though the person it happened to was banned a few weeks later... )
Perhaps the system could be revamped to simply split users into "trusted" (some minimum like 100 posts+1 month) and "not trusted". It's pretty clear that the correlation between time on the site and responsibility is not linear, and there's little need for separation beyond filtering out sockpuppets and complete newcomers.
Do you mean mkl or JL, BTW?
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January 19th, 2012 at 2:19:47 PM
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Quote: P90Perhaps the system could be revamped to simply split users into "trusted" (some minimum like 100 posts+1 month) and "not trusted". It's pretty clear that the correlation between time on the site and responsibility is not linear, and there's little need for separation beyond filtering out sockpuppets and complete newcomers.
That's kind of how it works now. However, I think I've come up with an even better solution. Logic similar to the above is only part of it.
January 19th, 2012 at 2:27:33 PM
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Assigning different post removal/hiding threshold depending on time on the site (with very low threshold for fresh registrations) should certainly take some part in it, if it doesn't already, IMO.
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January 19th, 2012 at 2:42:16 PM
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Quote: P90Do you mean mkl or JL, BTW?
Nope, was after them. It was that mad "professor"
I suspect JL sock puppets also had posts flagged.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
January 19th, 2012 at 3:30:09 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusThat's because muting you is in the best interest of the forum.
I think we can take you off the short list for a mod. (lol)
Ken
January 19th, 2012 at 3:31:21 PM
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I dont post alot, however I read alot.
I get that I'm not known to the Wiz and should not have as much power as people who do.
BUT when it comes to spam its just so annoying that I want the power to remove it (unless its in free speach)
So why not mark the person as a spamer which would put the posts (including new ones) in a spam location untill the Wiz or jb review it?
I get that I'm not known to the Wiz and should not have as much power as people who do.
BUT when it comes to spam its just so annoying that I want the power to remove it (unless its in free speach)
So why not mark the person as a spamer which would put the posts (including new ones) in a spam location untill the Wiz or jb review it?
January 19th, 2012 at 3:35:33 PM
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Quote: JBEveryone here is a moderator, just not with complete control.
That's pretty close to how it was originally, however, it has since changed, and will now change again.
Sometimes. The exact formula is a secret.
The underlying problem is that members are (currently) only banned manually, therefore the spammer was able to keep starting new threads no matter how many times his posts were flagged.
So obviously what is needed is a form of automatic banning. I think I have come up with a way to implement it that will minimize the chance of legitimate members getting banned (i.e. people who have their posts flagged by other people who simply don't like them), which I am discussing with the Wizard.
Thank you to everyone who flagged this guy's posts! Once automatic banning is implemented, your efforts at flagging spammers will be far more effective than they were this time.
"Once automatic banning is implemented, your efforts at flagging spammers will be far more effective" >>> 'Spammers' we're talking? Well thats good, very cool.
Ken
January 19th, 2012 at 3:41:23 PM
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"I get that I'm not known to the Wiz and should not have as much power as people who do" >>> What? If you're one of the good guys, why should you even need to explain yourself? ........regardless of who has or has not been a regular here for a long time.
Ken
Ken
January 19th, 2012 at 3:56:33 PM
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Note: The original / full post is here.
I thought of a new "restriction" that will probably work and be agreeable:
New members cannot post for the first 5 minutes.
I think this will effectively kill the spam bots, while only mildly inconveniencing real new members.
I understand your objections.Quote: P90That's overly restrictive and only addresses the issue of this weird bot that doesn't spam multiple accounts. ....Quote: DJTeddyBearYeah, If I were to come up with some automated limitations, it would be:...
I thought of a new "restriction" that will probably work and be agreeable:
New members cannot post for the first 5 minutes.
I think this will effectively kill the spam bots, while only mildly inconveniencing real new members.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
