Walkinshaw30t
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March 10th, 2014 at 5:58:14 AM permalink
I was in a situation while playing baccarat recently, banker was winning by a ridiculous margin (around 15 player wins to 40 banker wins) and as expected all the asians were betting banker.
I was playing one of my usual bet selections that called for a bet on player. I leaned over the sea of people to place my bet on player, after doing so one of the Asians did not want me betting player and took my bet off. I leaned over again and placed my bet back on player and told him not to touch my bet again. It remained on player and I won the hand.
If I hadnt seen the Asian bloke remove my bet and asked where my pay was at end of hand, I guess they would have looked at the video. Is it likely that the casino would have paid my bet or would I have had to take it up with the guy who removed the bet?
I cant imagine the casino would have paid the bet.
I have on occassions been asked by security and pitbosses to pay back a bet to dealer from a few hands ago that was incorrectly paid (mainly at blackjack) with no video proof offered.
Time will tell
AxelWolf
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March 10th, 2014 at 6:33:40 AM permalink
Quote: Walkinshaw30t

I was in a situation while playing baccarat recently, banker was winning by a ridiculous margin (around 15 player wins to 40 banker wins) and as expected all the asians were betting banker.
I was playing one of my usual bet selections that called for a bet on player. I leaned over the sea of people to place my bet on player, after doing so one of the Asians did not want me betting player and took my bet off. I leaned over again and placed my bet back on player and told him not to touch my bet again. It remained on player and I won the hand.
If I hadnt seen the Asian bloke remove my bet and asked where my pay was at end of hand, I guess they would have looked at the video. Is it likely that the casino would have paid my bet or would I have had to take it up with the guy who removed the bet?
I cant imagine the casino would have paid the bet.
I have on occassions been asked by security and pitbosses to pay back a bet to dealer from a few hands ago that was incorrectly paid (mainly at blackjack) with no video proof offered.

I can't Imagine the casinos would make a habit of paying you. Sounds like someone could take advantage of this, even colluding. They might a few times if you're a good customer or the other guy is well known.
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Walkinshaw30t
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March 10th, 2014 at 7:15:45 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I can't Imagine the casinos would make a habit of paying you. Sounds like someone could take advantage of this, even colluding. They might a few times if you're a good customer or the other guy is well known.



Yeh possibly
Time will tell
beachbumbabs
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March 10th, 2014 at 12:59:32 PM permalink
I would expect the Asian to get reprimanded from the pit. Touching other people's bets? Wow. I'm sure we're much more sensitive to this in the states than other places, where it's common for people to play behind other's spots, but removing someone's bet...wow again. That's not even an acceptable joke.
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March 10th, 2014 at 1:04:27 PM permalink
I don't think the casino would have paid the bet. They have to pay the winning bets on the layout. The bet wasn't on the layout when they dealt the hand. On self-service bets like baccarat, it's the player's job to make sure the bet is placed correctly. You did that when you noticed the guy moving your bet.

If the bet was moved by the guy, and the player lost, would you want the casino to take those cheques?

Your beef is with the guy who removed your bet due to his illogical superstition.
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March 10th, 2014 at 3:37:18 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

I don't think the casino would have paid the bet. They have to pay the winning bets on the layout. The bet wasn't on the layout when they dealt the hand. On self-service bets like baccarat, it's the player's job to make sure the bet is placed correctly. You did that when you noticed the guy moving your bet.

If the bet was moved by the guy, and the player lost, would you want the casino to take those cheques?

Your beef is with the guy who removed your bet due to his illogical superstition.



Yikes! I would want the dealer to say something like ' WHAT THE FRIG ARE YOU DOING TOUCHING HIS CHIPS!' Do it again and you are out of here! I'm sorry sir, I will replace your bet to its proper place before I deal the cards!
FleaStiff
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March 10th, 2014 at 4:33:34 PM permalink
Somebody's voice should have been raised real loud and real promptly. Dealer or player... but some one! Fast.
Walkinshaw30t
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March 10th, 2014 at 5:10:17 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I would expect the Asian to get reprimanded from the pit. Touching other people's bets? Wow. I'm sure we're much more sensitive to this in the states than other places, where it's common for people to play behind other's spots, but removing someone's bet...wow again. That's not even an acceptable joke.



Yeh it was pretty damn rude - I had never seen this happen before and would hope the player be booted if it was made known to dealer/ pit
Time will tell
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March 10th, 2014 at 5:47:52 PM permalink
That is quite bold that a player touched your money. I don't know, but I think you handled it much better than I might have. You replaced your bet and told him not to touch your money again. I might have smacked his hand as soon as he touched my money. Along with asking him what he thought he was doing (not as nicely as I have just written.) Of course, then there would have been all kinds of chaos. That said, I can't believe the dealer(s) said nothing.
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Walkinshaw30t
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March 10th, 2014 at 6:13:58 PM permalink
Quote: bushman

That is quite bold that a player touched your money. I don't know, but I think you handled it much better than I might have. You replaced your bet and told him not to touch your money again. I might have smacked his hand as soon as he touched my money. Along with asking him what he thought he was doing (not as nicely as I have just written.) Of course, then there would have been all kinds of chaos. That said, I can't believe the dealer(s) said nothing.



Haha yeh was lucky I was in a good mood 👊
I can understand the dealer missing it because the pit was chaos with people throwing their money on banker.
Time will tell

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