Nevada 100% Reopening
Would it also mean an end to the plastic barriers?
But masks might still be with us.
Quote: ChumpChangeStupid goals unless you like high body counts.
We all died in August already.
Quote: GundyFully vaccinated but required to wear masks? No thanks.
Seems to be the prevailing thought process and therefore policy at many businesses, casino or not, for the foreseeable future.
This is the new normal. Get used to it. It is what it is.
Quote: GundyFully vaccinated but required to wear masks? No thanks.
Ya masks are just so terrible Some people equate mask wearing to torture. I feel so bad for them.
Unless you have some medical issues I don’t see the big deal many times I forget that I’m even wearing one. It’s like wearing glasses at first it’s annoying then you get used to it.Go live in North Korea and see what real inconveniences are.
Quote: GundyFully vaccinated but required to wear masks? No thanks.
Security theater at its finest for the foreseeable future. Never ended after 9/11.
Quote: HunterhillYa masks are just so terrible Some people equate mask wearing to torture. I feel so bad for them.
Unless you have some medical issues I don’t see the big deal many times I forget that I’m even wearing one.
They don’t bother your ears at all? They are moderately painful around the ear to me any time I’ve worn them for multiple hours, which isn’t that frequent I guess. Idk I don’t think I could forget I’m wearing it for sure they’re moderately uncomfortable and stuffy . I’m ok with it for a little while indoors until more people are vaccinated maybe June or July, it’s just a minor inconvenience I guess but their presence very much ruins the therapeutic benefit of outdoor activities for me.
None of you seem to believe that stoning still happen to this day for women not wearing their masks
Lmao I just can’t believe that most of you say the things you do relative to the average iq at this place.
Go ahead someone defend sharia law I want to see how dumb someone is
Quote: heatmapThe only words I could come up with the comments in this thread are “sharia stupid”
None of you seem to believe that stoning still happen to this day for women not wearing their masks
Lmao I just can’t believe that most of you say the things you do relative to the average iq at this place.
Go ahead someone defend sharia law I want to see how dumb someone is
Quoting so there's no wriggling or editing out of the stupidity of the ideas and analogies expressed in this post. Mods - please edit or delete once heatmap is suspended for this insulting and political speech.
Quote: rdw4potusQuoting so there's no wriggling or editing out of the stupidity of the ideas and analogies expressed in this post. Mods - please edit or delete once heatmap is suspended for this insulting and political speech.
WAHHHH I DONT LIKE WHAT HE SAID THEREFORE SILENCE HIM
lol i can do this all day you baby
go ahead edit and remove this post which brings light to the "stupidity of these ideas" to real life because im not making this stuff up you guys are just babys who ignore the actual stuff that is happening in real life so that someone doesnt call you a rascist or ban you from a forum
Quote: heatmapGo ahead someone defend sharia law I want to see how dumb someone is
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But, mask guidance will stay in effect (presumably also plastic dividers) depending on how it plays out to be re-evaluated to see how long masks are needed. Of course casinos can still have their own requirements (vaccine card checks, temp stations, et....) which in some cases may go on longer than whatever government guidance there is.
Quote: HunterhillThe cheap cotton ones do bother my ears after awhile. So I bought some type of ear guard and now i don’t feel the mask at all. Also the cloth masks are very comfortable
I've got a few masks that go around the back of the head instead of around the ears. They're more comfortable, and they stay in place better.
I'm absolutely pro-mask, but I'll wait to return to Vegas until the masks are no longer necessary, simply because wearing the mask in 100° weather does not sound appealing in the slightest.
Quote: heatmapgo ahead edit and remove this post which brings light to the "stupidity of these ideas" to real life because im not making this stuff up you guys are just babys who ignore the actual stuff that is happening in real life so that someone doesnt call you a rascist or ban you from a forum
Could you elaborate on any of "the actual stuff that is happening in real life"?
For the past year, Nevada, where Las Vegas is located, which is the basis for wizardofvegas, has been responding to a pandemic. Throughout the year, the way this has been handled in this state has changed, and it continues to change. That's what this discussion is about. I am really struggled to figure out how anything you've said relates to that topic.
Sharia law? Babys? Rascist? What does any of that mean or have to do with Nevada's anticipated changes to their pandemic response?
Quote: TomGCould you elaborate on any of "the actual stuff that is happening in real life"?
For the past year, Nevada, where Las Vegas is located, which is the basis for wizardofvegas, has been responding to a pandemic. Throughout the year, the way this has been handled in this state has changed, and it continues to change. That's what this discussion is about. I am really struggled to figure out how anything you've said relates to that topic.
Sharia law? Babys? Rascist? What does any of that mean or have to do with Nevada's anticipated changes to their pandemic response?
Wow what a troll after the wiz muzzled him from responding to that here.
TomG, Heatmap has been told to drop the sub-topic of Sharia law.Quote: TomGCould you elaborate on any of "the actual stuff that is happening in real life"?
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Sharia law? Babys? Rascist? What does any of that mean or have to do with Nevada's anticipated changes to their pandemic response?
Heatmap. Please do not rise to this taunt.
Both of you, and others...
Quote: WizardWarning -- Political/religious statement. Please take it to DT.
First casino that lets people come in unmasked will be overrun by an onslaught of anti-mask “Karens” - it won’t be a pretty sight.
Quote: GandlerThe way I read it is 100% re-opening as far as 100% building capacity (whatever the normal load of occupants are approved to be in a building).
But, mask guidance will stay in effect (presumably also plastic dividers) depending on how it plays out to be re-evaluated to see how long masks are needed. Of course casinos can still have their own requirements (vaccine card checks, temp stations, et....) which in some cases may go on longer than whatever government guidance there is.
When it comes to casinos the final word rests with the Nevada Gaming Control Board. They will decide if the plastic barriers can come down. The NGCB is also the one who will decide what percentage of casino workers must be fully vaccinated.
Casinos here in Vegas are now pushing vaccinations. Bonuses are even being offered to get staff fully vaccinated.
But from Sisolak's comments I got the impression masks may continue even after 100% openings are allowed.
I also doubt any casino will have any rules over and above those required by regulators. Casinos owned by Boyd and Stations have already dropped temperature screenings, and masks at entrances are no longer given out. You need to ask someone like security or a pit person to get a mask.
Effectiveness against symptomatic Covid was was 57% after one dose, 94% after 2
For severe disease it was 62% after one dose, 92% after 2
Anybody notice you don't get the high the very first time you smoke pot, you have to wait for the second party?
What are the odds of suing somebody for a trillion dollars and succeeding?
Quote: ChumpChangeWhat are the odds of suing somebody for a trillion dollars and succeeding?
How do you show a trillion dollars of damages?
If you can show a trillion dollars of damages you can sue for it... unless there are legal limitations.
Most states limit Small Claims cases to $10,000, as an example of statutory limits.
I don't think HEATMAP needs to be silenced. People do think and believe what this point of view is.. THE big problem with this attitude is it does absolutely NOTHING to make us all safer..BUT he probably feels better now that he said it..Kind of sad huh...just to be clear I'm referring to this concept of no masks NOT THE VIDEO ABOUT SARIA LAWQuote: heatmapWAHHHH I DONT LIKE WHAT HE SAID THEREFORE SILENCE HIM
lol i can do this all day you baby
go ahead edit and remove this post which brings light to the "stupidity of these ideas" to real life because im not making this stuff up you guys are just babys who ignore the actual stuff that is happening in real life so that someone doesnt call you a rascist or ban you from a forum
Story at Springfield News-Leader
Quote: ChumpChange76 million people have been vaccinated and 5800 have gotten COVID since being vaccinated. Pfizer says a 3rd shot will likely be necessary within 6 months and then have yearly booster shots.
You left out some important info. Of those who did get Covid the disease was described as mild.
Quote: AlanMendelsonWhen it comes to casinos the final word rests with the Nevada Gaming Control Board. They will decide if the plastic barriers can come down. The NGCB is also the one who will decide what percentage of casino workers must be fully vaccinated.
Casinos here in Vegas are now pushing vaccinations. Bonuses are even being offered to get staff fully vaccinated.
But from Sisolak's comments I got the impression masks may continue even after 100% openings are allowed.
I also doubt any casino will have any rules over and above those required by regulators. Casinos owned by Boyd and Stations have already dropped temperature screenings, and masks at entrances are no longer given out. You need to ask someone like security or a pit person to get a mask.
I agree they (Gaming Control) can always make stricter requirements specifically for casinos.
I was just pointing out that "100% re-opening" is referring to building capacity (100% occupant load) allowances, not to mask guidance or other mandates. As far as I can tell mask guidance will remain the safe even with 100% occupant load.
I do disagree about casinos not having their own rules. Unions will have a big part to play. And, I suspect some safety protocols (even if it is just glass shields for dealers and cashiers) will be influenced by unions. It also would not surprise me if some casinos check your vaccine card as a condition for either demasking or entering certain areas. I think its safe to assume at least some casinos will have rules stricter than is required (as is already the case).
You wait and see... The unionized casinos will require masks The non-union casinos WON'T..I'll wear a mask anywhere because it's just safer for you and me..Quote: GandlerI agree they (Gaming Control) can always make stricter requirements specifically for casinos.
I was just pointing out that "100% re-opening" is referring to building capacity (100% occupant load) allowances, not to mask guidance or other mandates. As far as I can tell mask guidance will remain the safe even with 100% occupant load.
I do disagree about casinos not having their own rules. Unions will have a big part to play. And, I suspect some safety protocols (even if it is just glass shields for dealers and cashiers) will be influenced by unions. It also would not surprise me if some casinos check your vaccine card as a condition for either demasking or entering certain areas. I think its safe to assume at least some casinos will have rules stricter than is required (as is already the case).
Quote: OnceDearTomG, Heatmap has been told to drop the sub-topic of Sharia law.
Heatmap. Please do not rise to this taunt.Quote: WizardQuote: Wizard
Warning -- Political/religious statement. Please take it to DT.
Both of you, and others...
No. I won't be directly called an idiot (for disagreeing with heatmap's premise) and then a baby (for pointing out the asinine post that I flagged). The solution can't possibly be to move to a different site. Really? Do better.
Quote: daveyandersen1You wait and see... The unionized casinos will require masks The non-union casinos WON'T..I'll wear a mask anywhere because it's just safer for you and me..
There might be a couple exceptions but vast majority of casinos in LV they aren’t really a union or non union casino, usually depends more on the job role than property if it’s a union position. For example, most places bartenders/housekeeping, anything to do with food will be part of a union while casino employees (just referring to entire slot and table games departments) are not.
Quote: AlanMendelsonNevada Governor Sisolak says the goal is to have a 100% reopening of the State by June 1st.
Michigan is under siege from covid-19 right now. More new cases per day then last fall or anytime this winter. Hospitals are being overwhelmed. The CDC is demanding our governor shut the state down again. And Nevada wants to reopen? If it's happening here it's going to be happening in other places and the reason it's happening is group gatherings, or so they say. Restaurants, sporting events, even school kids are affected this time.
But the hotline's rollout was marked by busy signals and "technical issues," caused by the massive volume of calls.
A FEMA spokesperson told CNN Thursday that nearly 1 million calls occurred within the first 90 minutes of the phone lines opening.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/fema-covid-19-funeral-assistance-calls/index.html
Well thats good... Hopefully these unions will have enough clout to persuade the casino owners[corporations].to be safe and abide by state requirements..I just want people to feel safe when there in Vegas... BUT we'll seeQuote: mcallister3200There might be a couple exceptions but vast majority of casinos in LV they aren’t really a union or non union casino, usually depends more on the job role than property if it’s a union position. For example, most places bartenders/housekeeping, anything to do with food will be part of a union while casino employees (just referring to entire slot and table games departments) are not.
Masks aren’t going anywhere this year, if ever...
Quote: FTBNow they are saying a booster shot will probably be needed later in the year and/or people will have to have a yearly shot similar to flu season.
Masks aren’t going anywhere this year, if ever...
If anyone who wants to is easily able to get the booster shot, like anyone who wants the first shot can easily get them now, then why would masks be continually needed at that time?
If the majority of the mask protection is for others, and it’s only people opting out of that protection who are getting severe cases (have yet to hear of a Covid case requiring hospitalization of someone vaccinated), then why would they be continuously needed, the you can’t really protect/help people who don’t want it sort of concept.
Yes, it is just that straight-forward. Why in the world would someone not want to do something so simple to help their fellow man ?Quote: daveyandersen1I'll wear a mask anywhere because it's just safer for you and me..
Quote: mcallister3200If anyone who wants to is easily able to get the booster shot, like anyone who wants the first shot can easily get them now, then why would masks be continually needed at that time?
If the majority of the mask protection is for others, and it’s only people opting out of that protection who are getting severe cases (have yet to hear of a Covid case requiring hospitalization of someone vaccinated), then why would they be continuously needed, the you can’t really protect/help people who don’t want it sort of concept.
I expect others who recall more precisely will correct any of my inaccuracies. However, I thought the reason to wear a mask after being vaccinated is because -- while the vaccinated person will not catch coronavirus if they come in contact with it -- they can still become a carrier who infects other people. I don't have time now to check CDC, etc., and I defer to others who show up with reasonable data.
Just move to Australia and play there, they've conquered the virus.
Quote: mcallister3200If anyone who wants to is easily able to get the booster shot, like anyone who wants the first shot can easily get them now, then why would masks be continually needed at that time?
If the majority of the mask protection is for others, and it’s only people opting out of that protection who are getting severe cases (have yet to hear of a Covid case requiring hospitalization of someone vaccinated), then why would they be continuously needed, the you can’t really protect/help people who don’t want it sort of concept.
Breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in fully vaccinated individuals have been reported.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cdc-breakthrough-cases-explained-173107351.html
- Not quite all mild cases.
And WSJ ran an article yesterday that said fully vaccinated have a 0.008% chance of getting Covid. Yet people keep wearing masks. Now, THAT's funny.
Quote: GundyI'm done with masks (since Dec 2020). It's great.
And WSJ ran an article yesterday that said fully vaccinated have a 0.008% chance of getting Covid. Yet people keep wearing masks. Now, THAT's funny.
.008% of people being vaccinated having contracted Covid since vaccination is not the same thing as probability of it ever happening. 95% efficacy not 99.992
Quote: KeeneoneBreakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in fully vaccinated individuals have been reported.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cdc-breakthrough-cases-explained-173107351.html
Thanks. I was aware that there’s been cases, wasn’t aware of any severe cases. From a risk/safety benefit standpoint, if they’re required after mid summer I’d still compare it to if you’d not allow people to operate motorcycles or bicycles on a road, or not allowing people to have their pets in any public area because it could theoretically bite someone.
Quote: GundyI'm done with masks (since Dec 2020). It's great.
And WSJ ran an article yesterday that said fully vaccinated have a 0.008% chance of getting Covid. Yet people keep wearing masks. Now, THAT's funny.
Some folk have a strange sense of humor, I guess. I wear a mask not to protect myself, but to protect others. I hope you recalled correctly about the low re-infection probability. That's good news.
As long as we don't work together to beat the virus, the virus wins. The virus has remained well out of control since the international pandemic was declared. IMHO, most states currently act like they want a double dose of "Michigan." And, they just may get it.
