New forum coming soon.
October 11th, 2012 at 10:06:45 AM
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One of the most frequent complaints I get about this forum is that the percentage of posts directly about gambling and Vegas is too low. In the interests of tightening the focus on this site, I plan to create another forum that is open to all topics of interest, with an emphasis on the most touchy topics like politics, religion, and GLBT issues. The new site will be pretty much a copy of this ones in terms of look, structure, and rules. There will not be articles and reviews on the new site. A lot of the details are yet to be determined. In particular, how to handle the transition period to trying to move these topics to the new site.
The name of the new site is still a secret, but I'll just say for now the initials will be DT. I'm letting you know now, just so that the change doesn't come as a total shock when it does happen. The decision to do this has already been made, so don't try to talk me into or out of it. However, I am open to general suggestions and comments on the matter.
The name of the new site is still a secret, but I'll just say for now the initials will be DT. I'm letting you know now, just so that the change doesn't come as a total shock when it does happen. The decision to do this has already been made, so don't try to talk me into or out of it. However, I am open to general suggestions and comments on the matter.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 11th, 2012 at 10:11:27 AM
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I've been on gambling forums for about 9 years.
There was a period when they were all going
gangbusters. In the last 4 years they have all
fallen off drastically in traffic. Some of the best
ones dried up and went away. Theres only just
so much you can say about gambling and then
its all been said.
There was a period when they were all going
gangbusters. In the last 4 years they have all
fallen off drastically in traffic. Some of the best
ones dried up and went away. Theres only just
so much you can say about gambling and then
its all been said.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 11th, 2012 at 10:20:03 AM
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Quote: EvenBobSo this site is going away?
No.
Quote: EvenBobWill the archives still be available?
N/A because the answer to the first question was no.
October 11th, 2012 at 10:21:07 AM
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Quote: WizardOne of the most frequent complaints I get about this forum is that the percentage of posts directly about gambling and Vegas is too low. In the interests of tightening the focus on this site, I plan to create another forum that is open to all topics of interest, with an emphasis on the most touchy topics like politics, religion, and GLBT issues. The new site will be pretty much a copy of this ones in terms of look, structure, and rules. There will not be articles and reviews on the new site. A lot of the details are yet to be determined. In particular, how to handle the transition period to trying to move these topics to the new site.
The name of the new site is still a secret, but I'll just saw for now the initials will be DT. I'm letting you know now, just so that the change doesn't come as a total shock when it does happen. The decision to do this has already been made, so don't try to talk me into or out of it. However, I am open to general suggestions and comments on the matter.
Just a few suggestion:
1. To migrate, just take the articles from here and leave a note like when you split them off, then lock them up here. That lessens the need to do a "cold start" at dxtx.com.
2. Eliminate the "top posters" section, or make it over the last x number of days. We do not need another MKL her trying to reach the top by posting 30 times a day.
3. I know I do not need to tell you, but no avitars--EVER!
4. Allow the personal ability to bloc entire subject areas, say the Religion or GLBT areas.
5. Keep the blogs, allow them to migrate if you can
That is all I can come up with for now without giving your programming team more major work.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
October 11th, 2012 at 10:23:39 AM
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Quote: EvenBobI've been on gambling forums for about 9 years.
There was a period when they were all going
gangbusters. In the last 4 years they have all
fallen off drastically in traffic. Some of the best
ones dried up and went away. Theres only just
so much you can say about gambling and then
its all been said.
Very correct. I have little new on the subject, losing interest in some ways. But the minds of APs tend to allow for good discussion. Hopefully the theme of the new board keeps attracting that kind of people.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
October 11th, 2012 at 10:25:10 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanJust a few suggestion:
4. Allow the personal ability to bloc entire subject areas, say the Religion or GLBT areas.
That is all I can come up with for now without giving your programming team more major work.
I agree with 4 as well.
I agree with 1-3 and 5, as well. But really agree with 4.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
October 11th, 2012 at 10:29:47 AM
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I didn't read Wiz's not as saying this forum was going to be locked.
I read it as saying the scope of this forum was going to be restricted to gambling and Vegas. I am hoping that gambling in casinos outside of Vegas will still be tolerated. I can handle disdain, but not banishment!
I read it as saying the scope of this forum was going to be restricted to gambling and Vegas. I am hoping that gambling in casinos outside of Vegas will still be tolerated. I can handle disdain, but not banishment!
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
October 11th, 2012 at 10:36:09 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanVery correct. I have little new on the subject, losing interest in some ways.
The computer craze was just getting geared up about
10 years ago. Thats when everybody started getting
them, the prices were coming down and the net was
popping up on TV and everywhere.
A lot of gamblers joined forums in the hopes of learning
how to win more than lose. This is what drove gambling
forums for years, that somebody had the secret and
was going to give it away on the internet. When people
started realizing that was never going to happen, the
forums started to dry up. The ones that are still around
are shadows of what they once were.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 11th, 2012 at 10:48:26 AM
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Something inside me said: "This is a relly bad idea."
And then something else inside me said: "No, New coke was a really bad idea. The Ford Edsel was a really bad idea. Eating at the Emperor's Buffet was a really bad idea. Going to Orlando in... well, you get my drift, right?"
And then something else inside me said: "No, New coke was a really bad idea. The Ford Edsel was a really bad idea. Eating at the Emperor's Buffet was a really bad idea. Going to Orlando in... well, you get my drift, right?"
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
October 11th, 2012 at 10:57:23 AM
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Would sports/horse discussions still be appropriate on this site?
For example, if I were to post a poll "Who do you think will win the World Series" that's not really a gambling question, but it sort of is.
For example, if I were to post a poll "Who do you think will win the World Series" that's not really a gambling question, but it sort of is.
October 11th, 2012 at 10:58:20 AM
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I think it's a wonderful idea. We're not automatically enrolled on the new site right? I'll certainly visit but I may not join.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
October 11th, 2012 at 10:59:01 AM
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Quote: EvenBobThe computer craze was just getting geared up about
10 years ago. Thats when everybody started getting
them, the prices were coming down and the net was
popping up on TV and everywhere.
A lot of gamblers joined forums in the hopes of learning
how to win more than lose. This is what drove gambling
forums for years, that somebody had the secret and
was going to give it away on the internet. When people
started realizing that was never going to happen, the
forums started to dry up. The ones that are still around
are shadows of what they once were.
It isn't just the gambling forums, they all dried up a bit. Speaking for myself, I discovered USENET in 1991, and was hooked fast. Lots of people were by the late 1990s. But eventually you lose some interest. Like the CB Radio craze. It is all about communication with strangers being "neat" at first then "normal" then "too many jerks." There were many, many investment forums, people eventually lost interest.
The 1990-2007 Vegas Boom coincided with the golden age of the WWW. Now that going to a casino is no longer "exotic" interest has waned. I see the Wiz's idea here, and am glad a new forum will be coming instead of his tellling us "you don't have to go home, but you cannot stay here." WoV has been a "just right" size of not too small or too busy.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
October 11th, 2012 at 11:01:10 AM
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I wonder how much of the early growth was due to the mystique of forbidden fruit.
Vegas will always be Vegas to some degree, but there is no magic to be found inside most casinos.
I have seen my pastimes basically disappear over the years. Pool halls are closed or empty. Race tracks survive only as racinos.
And I wonder what effect on-line gambling will cause.
At G2E ,I stood in front of a giant screen TV, while wearing wrap around dark glasses.
It converted the TV image to 3d and a horse race was on. I could see the blades of grass thrown up from the horses hooves.
I have never seen such a vivid image, even from the infield at Pimlico or from the Ferris Wheel at Timonium Race track.
I hate OTB's but what choice do I have ?
Vegas will always be Vegas to some degree, but there is no magic to be found inside most casinos.
I have seen my pastimes basically disappear over the years. Pool halls are closed or empty. Race tracks survive only as racinos.
And I wonder what effect on-line gambling will cause.
At G2E ,I stood in front of a giant screen TV, while wearing wrap around dark glasses.
It converted the TV image to 3d and a horse race was on. I could see the blades of grass thrown up from the horses hooves.
I have never seen such a vivid image, even from the infield at Pimlico or from the Ferris Wheel at Timonium Race track.
I hate OTB's but what choice do I have ?
October 11th, 2012 at 11:02:12 AM
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Well, now I have to figure out whether discussing a different casino chip every day is a gambling topic, a Vegas topic, or neither. I assume there will be guidance in such things.
October 11th, 2012 at 11:07:12 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanWoV has been a "just right" size of not too small or too busy.
The result of having two sites is, instead of one moderately
busy site, there will be two moderately not busy sites. I
guess theres a point, but so far its evaded me. I just block
the threads I don't read and life goes on.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 11th, 2012 at 11:07:50 AM
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I am glad to hear that you have made this decision. I believe some of the discussions here have weakened your "Wizard of Odds" brand.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
October 11th, 2012 at 11:09:57 AM
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" Like the CB Radio craze." 10-4 good buddy.
Pagers were popular back then too. I had a scam selling fake pagers, because only doctors , lawyers, and high level business men had them. Hit a button on the fake ones I sold and 30 seconds later it would start beeping. You could then duck out to go look for a pay phone. LOL
Pagers were popular back then too. I had a scam selling fake pagers, because only doctors , lawyers, and high level business men had them. Hit a button on the fake ones I sold and 30 seconds later it would start beeping. You could then duck out to go look for a pay phone. LOL
October 11th, 2012 at 11:19:52 AM
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Right now, all recent posts are a mixture, so top 10 can be anything. Two different recent posts boxes should also work. One gambling, and one, all other.
Sanitized for Your Protection
October 11th, 2012 at 11:25:43 AM
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I'm somewhat privvy to this new concept. Mike asked me to do some sample banners, so I know the full name and tag line. (Don't try to pry the info out of me. It ain't happening.) Other than that, this is pretty much news to me too. Hell, I'm not even sure if he's using my banner, or someone else's. (Remember the revised banners I did for WoO?)
But now that I know more about it, I question the decision.
WoV tends to cultivate members that are gamblers, casino workers, game designers, advantage players, etc. While the discussions about casinos and gambling tend to be of a higher caliber than on other sites, what we say about non-gambling topics is also very interesting because we share a common interest in gambling.
Although we will all be the initial members, the new site will probably cultivate new members from a diverse cross-section, leading to a less specific point of view.
Today, there there is an over-kill of websites and forums for discussing almost any topic you like.
Will tomorrow be any different once DT is launched?
But now that I know more about it, I question the decision.
WoV tends to cultivate members that are gamblers, casino workers, game designers, advantage players, etc. While the discussions about casinos and gambling tend to be of a higher caliber than on other sites, what we say about non-gambling topics is also very interesting because we share a common interest in gambling.
Although we will all be the initial members, the new site will probably cultivate new members from a diverse cross-section, leading to a less specific point of view.
Today, there there is an over-kill of websites and forums for discussing almost any topic you like.
Will tomorrow be any different once DT is launched?
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
October 11th, 2012 at 11:26:58 AM
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...actually, putting another recent posts box at the bottom of the page that includes everything, no one would see until they bother to scroll to the bottom of your page.
So, it would be all gambling for anyone coming to the page -- until they scroll to the bottom.
So, it would be all gambling for anyone coming to the page -- until they scroll to the bottom.
Sanitized for Your Protection
October 11th, 2012 at 12:53:26 PM
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Another idea:
Anyone new only sees all gambling board, but on options can "opt in" to all other posts whenever they want. Or opt out.
Anyone new only sees all gambling board, but on options can "opt in" to all other posts whenever they want. Or opt out.
Sanitized for Your Protection
October 11th, 2012 at 12:55:58 PM
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Also,
what was the problem with
"Block Thread"
What about "Block Forum"
what was the problem with
"Block Thread"
What about "Block Forum"
Sanitized for Your Protection
October 11th, 2012 at 1:09:26 PM
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Quote: rxwineWhat about "Block Forum"
Then why sign up in the first place? Or why even visit the site?
I keep seeing New Coke and Ford Edsels...
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
October 11th, 2012 at 1:12:32 PM
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I think it's a good idea, as of now. Only because I was gone over the weekend and came back to three pages of recent threads to get back to where I had left off, and too many of them were about the election or the debate. Once you eliminate those it's easier to sift through all the craps stuff to find what you're looking for.
Each of us is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.
Preparing for a fight about your bad decision is not as smart as making a good decision.
October 11th, 2012 at 1:14:53 PM
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Quote: NareedThen why sign up in the first place? Or why even visit the site?
I keep seeing New Coke and Ford Edsels...
Block each individual forum... not the whole lot :)
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
October 11th, 2012 at 1:25:22 PM
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Quote: thecesspitBlock each individual forum... not the whole lot :)
Yes. I'm not sure why that wouldn't solve the current problem.
Sanitized for Your Protection
October 11th, 2012 at 1:32:26 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBear
But now that I know more about it, I question the decision.
It will be a giant headache, but the decision makers
will have to see for themselves. Its like a friend of
mine who opened a pizza place 20 years ago and
it was a huge success. So he got the idea to open
one on the other side of town and it was just a
monster pain in the ass. He eventually closed it.
Sometimes two isn't better than one.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 11th, 2012 at 1:34:38 PM
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I've been rattling that "Why?" question around a bit.
The answer is simple.
Marketing to different target audiences is easier with two distinct websites.
The answer is simple.
Marketing to different target audiences is easier with two distinct websites.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
October 11th, 2012 at 1:38:27 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBear(Don't try to pry the info out of me. It ain't happening.)
Everyone knows what DT means. Or was that DTs? OR DsT? Oh, well :P
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
October 11th, 2012 at 1:41:12 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI've been rattling that "Why?" question around a bit.
The answer is simple.
Marketing to different target audiences is easier with two distinct websites.
The Wizard could get fancy.
Example: You see the Wiz site for the first time, and you see, all these forums options to opt into and it creates the board you want. For instance check craps, poker, general discusion board, and that's all you see. The BB is as big or as small and focused as you like and no other URLs to go to.
Sanitized for Your Protection
October 11th, 2012 at 1:45:59 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI've been rattling that "Why?" question around a bit.
The answer is simple.
Marketing to different target audiences is easier with two distinct websites.
The answer is never simple. Hope the new site works out well. But then you can start hanging the crepe on this one.
The diverse subjects is what brings many to this forum.
I wonder how many of those complainers are just drop-ins, hit and missers, looking for Utopia ?
This site is unique and I sincerely wish you well, Mike.
The decision has been made and I will add your future success to my prayer list. But I do not have a good feeling about this.
October 11th, 2012 at 1:51:11 PM
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Quote: buzzpaffThe decision has been made and I will add your future success to my prayer list. But I do not have a good feeling about this.
Also, reminder to the Wiz, that there is a resource of the whole board if he wants input, even if he doesn't use it. People give unwanted advice for FREE. It's amazing, and sometimes it's actually useful.
Sanitized for Your Protection
October 11th, 2012 at 1:54:54 PM
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I have received a lot of good advice from people on this forum. Always reluctant to ask, because many make their living by providing information.
I try and return the favor. But many consider the source. Can't say I blame them.
I try and return the favor. But many consider the source. Can't say I blame them.
October 11th, 2012 at 2:08:10 PM
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Quote: rxwineAlso, reminder to the Wiz, that there is a resource of the whole board if he wants input, even if he doesn't use it. People give unwanted advice for FREE. It's amazing, and sometimes it's actually useful.
Of course, that free advice also comes at a price. Ask 20 true 'experts' about this topic on this board, and I guarantee you will get 20 different answers on what needs to be done. In the end, only the Wiz knows what he wants. And what he wants, may or may not, line up with any of our wants.
I have not made any private complaints, but I have made a few snipes in some posts. The non gambling topics, and posts not directly on topic have reached major proportions. If someone was only interested in posts that were purely gambling or Vegas related, the noise ratio is really high here now.
Not saying some of it is not valuable, just that it is not gambling or Vegas.
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
October 11th, 2012 at 2:21:44 PM
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Quote: RaleighCrapsjust that it is not gambling or Vegas.
Because those two subjects are very limiting.
There's only so much to be said about either
one and then its been said. Gambling itself
is very boring to do, and even more boring
to talk about. Its repetitive as hell, you just
sit there and do basically the same thing for
hours on end.
And Vegas ain't NYC. Its the 3 mile long Strip
and Downtown. One casino is pretty much like
any other, not a whole lot to discuss.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 11th, 2012 at 2:24:48 PM
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Hot Blonde Challenge is not exactly a gambling topis !
October 11th, 2012 at 2:25:26 PM
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I forsee here: "Why are you posting about THAT on a gambling forum? TROLL!"
And on DT: "Why are you posting about GAMBLING in this forum? TROLL!"
And on DT: "Why are you posting about GAMBLING in this forum? TROLL!"
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
October 11th, 2012 at 2:28:03 PM
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Trolls at least cause opinions to be expressed and/or defended. That is not always a bad result !
October 11th, 2012 at 2:46:53 PM
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Quote: buzzpaffTrolls at least cause opinions to be expressed and/or defended. That is not always a bad result !
I guess that view depends on what the expectation is, of the particular member, the forum administrator, the forum owner, the person paying the bills, etc.
Some people like to have an exchange about everything, and anything.
Some people want to remain 100% on topic, 100% of the time.
Nobody has the right to say their way is the RIGHT way, however, certain people do have the right to have it THEIR WAY.
I have no idea what is behind this thread. I have my own assumptions (does that make an ASS out of UMPS?)
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
October 11th, 2012 at 2:52:04 PM
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I also see:
Clueless user: "Where did my craps thread go????"
Admin: "That thread was moved to the WoV Forum."
Clueless User: "The WHAT forum?????????????????????"
And:
Clueless user: "Where did my skating thread go????"
Admin: "That thread was moved to the DT Forum."
Clueless User: "The WHAT forum?????????????????????"
Clueless user: "Where did my craps thread go????"
Admin: "That thread was moved to the WoV Forum."
Clueless User: "The WHAT forum?????????????????????"
And:
Clueless user: "Where did my skating thread go????"
Admin: "That thread was moved to the DT Forum."
Clueless User: "The WHAT forum?????????????????????"
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
October 11th, 2012 at 3:09:13 PM
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I for one have gained much useful information from this forum and the many intelligent people on it. I may not always agree, but this is my favorite place to start my day and visit as time permits. I hate to see it change or useage reduced.
October 11th, 2012 at 3:31:05 PM
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Let me address some comments thus far.
The two sites will be independent. For example, I won't be able to move a thread from one to the other.
DT will start with a totally clean slate. I'll have a period of time where I keep the new site quiet, so that members here can join with their same moniker on DT.
Threads like who will win the World Series and Casino Chip of the Day will be fine here, since they are semi-gambling related. I don't plan to be too vigilant about keeping this site on topic. However, much like I shut off the Free Speech Zone, it is my goal to move subjects like politics and religion to the new site.
That is a good idea about changing or getting rid of the most frequent posters. Quality is more important that quantity of posts.
Maybe this idea will be a flop, like a pizza restaurant on the other side of town. However, I bet at sometime the founder of Pizza Hut or Dominoes faced such a decision, and took the chance. My philosophy in business has always been to not be afraid to take a risk, and expect some of them to succeed and some to fail. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
The two sites will be independent. For example, I won't be able to move a thread from one to the other.
DT will start with a totally clean slate. I'll have a period of time where I keep the new site quiet, so that members here can join with their same moniker on DT.
Threads like who will win the World Series and Casino Chip of the Day will be fine here, since they are semi-gambling related. I don't plan to be too vigilant about keeping this site on topic. However, much like I shut off the Free Speech Zone, it is my goal to move subjects like politics and religion to the new site.
That is a good idea about changing or getting rid of the most frequent posters. Quality is more important that quantity of posts.
Maybe this idea will be a flop, like a pizza restaurant on the other side of town. However, I bet at sometime the founder of Pizza Hut or Dominoes faced such a decision, and took the chance. My philosophy in business has always been to not be afraid to take a risk, and expect some of them to succeed and some to fail. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 11th, 2012 at 4:01:52 PM
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If you moved all "other" discussion visually below the "community statistics" at the bottom of the Forums page, people wouldn't have to see anything other than gambling. Take all the info off the top that shows up the "other" stuff. Voila'
Well, that's all I have to say.
Well, that's all I have to say.
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October 11th, 2012 at 9:03:13 PM
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I guess it all depends on what the theme or hook is for the DT site.
I'm just a lurker, but have thrown in a post here and there. But I first came here for gambling information and advice, and only participated in other topics as they've caught my eye. I'll still come here the gambling discussions, but would be unlikely to visit a separate "general topics" site.
I need this site to talk craps with other enthusiasts. For talk about religion and politics I can go down to the corner tavern.
I'm just a lurker, but have thrown in a post here and there. But I first came here for gambling information and advice, and only participated in other topics as they've caught my eye. I'll still come here the gambling discussions, but would be unlikely to visit a separate "general topics" site.
I need this site to talk craps with other enthusiasts. For talk about religion and politics I can go down to the corner tavern.
October 11th, 2012 at 9:26:09 PM
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Quote: WizardThat is a good idea about changing or getting rid of the most frequent posters. Quality is more important that quantity of posts.
That came out badly. I meant getting rid of the LIST of the most frequent posters, not the posters themselves. Sorry to anybody I may have offended. I have no problem with any of the frequent posters.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 11th, 2012 at 9:35:19 PM
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October 11th, 2012 at 9:44:31 PM
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Quote: sodawaterJust curious... why do you expect anyone to go to the new forum? What advantage do you have over the countless other general-topic forums out there?
I remember the scene in the movie The Social Network in which Mark Zuckerberg was asked how Facebook would be any better than Friendster or Myspace. Maybe my business plan isn't that well thought out, but my philosophy is to just do anything and see what works. I already have the software for this site, so just copying it to a new site won't be that hard. If it doesn't work out, no big deal, I'll move onto my next idea.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 11th, 2012 at 9:52:10 PM
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I would suggest that one advantage is that you already have a core group of participants and this Forum that, at a minimum, will give the other Forum at least a cursory glance. Furthermore, this Forum is going to be more strictly related to gambling topics, so people who may not otherwise participate here because they think the noise greatly outweighs the signal may reconsider and new people may participate here.
The Wiz has already stated that we are all going to get first crack at our handles and establishing ourselves on the new Forum, so anyone else seeing the new place for the first time is going to see a place that is already active.
The Wiz has also admitted that he doesn't know how this is going to go, and I tend to agree with that analysis. I don't know that he's really trying to, "Compete," with anyone because I fail to see how such a message board can be a lucrative endeavor to begin with. The other Forum at which I am an Moderator, which is probably the second-largest Philosophy Forum on the Internet, sees the Administrator (and I am only saying this because he has done so publicly) taking a slight loss on operations.
The Wiz also states he does not plan to bring the hammer down on off-topic stuff too much over here. If we do tighten things up at all here, in that regard, they can always be loosened again.
I don't have an overall opinion on the whole thing, but The Wiz has stated he likes to throw things at the wall and see what sticks. I am both change and risk-averse (with gambling being the ONLY exception, probably a Psychological outlet to alleviate the excitement reducing impact of my risk-averse tendencies) so any opinion I would have would be tainted with bias towards risk-aversion and better left unstated.
The Wiz has already stated that we are all going to get first crack at our handles and establishing ourselves on the new Forum, so anyone else seeing the new place for the first time is going to see a place that is already active.
The Wiz has also admitted that he doesn't know how this is going to go, and I tend to agree with that analysis. I don't know that he's really trying to, "Compete," with anyone because I fail to see how such a message board can be a lucrative endeavor to begin with. The other Forum at which I am an Moderator, which is probably the second-largest Philosophy Forum on the Internet, sees the Administrator (and I am only saying this because he has done so publicly) taking a slight loss on operations.
The Wiz also states he does not plan to bring the hammer down on off-topic stuff too much over here. If we do tighten things up at all here, in that regard, they can always be loosened again.
I don't have an overall opinion on the whole thing, but The Wiz has stated he likes to throw things at the wall and see what sticks. I am both change and risk-averse (with gambling being the ONLY exception, probably a Psychological outlet to alleviate the excitement reducing impact of my risk-averse tendencies) so any opinion I would have would be tainted with bias towards risk-aversion and better left unstated.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
October 11th, 2012 at 10:06:30 PM
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When I think of WoV, a lot thats here fits, and some that does not. Generally speaking, OFF-TOPIC / Other Casinos & Big Wins could be here as their own topics,
OFF-TOPIC no, but see above
GAMBLING yes, but this is a general set of topics that might do better at WoO
GAMING BIZ remove, except Inventor's Corner might do better at WoO
VEGAS CASINOS yes, but not itemized... area/owner would be better... Downtown, Strip, Wynn, Harrah's, etc.
ATTRACTIONS yes
Q&A Gambling and Math better at WoO, Las Vegas (other) yes, the rest no
So as I see it I can make a pitch for 3 forums... WoV dealing with all things Vegas (minor interest in other gaming regions, its a small world these days, lotsa travel), WoO dealing with all things Gambling in general... rules, math, Java games, strategy, etc., and then what I would call a general "lifestyles" forum in which the gamers can talk about general topics, Politics, Sex, Religion, Advice, Flag-waving, etc.
OFF-TOPIC no, but see above
GAMBLING yes, but this is a general set of topics that might do better at WoO
GAMING BIZ remove, except Inventor's Corner might do better at WoO
VEGAS CASINOS yes, but not itemized... area/owner would be better... Downtown, Strip, Wynn, Harrah's, etc.
ATTRACTIONS yes
Q&A Gambling and Math better at WoO, Las Vegas (other) yes, the rest no
So as I see it I can make a pitch for 3 forums... WoV dealing with all things Vegas (minor interest in other gaming regions, its a small world these days, lotsa travel), WoO dealing with all things Gambling in general... rules, math, Java games, strategy, etc., and then what I would call a general "lifestyles" forum in which the gamers can talk about general topics, Politics, Sex, Religion, Advice, Flag-waving, etc.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
October 11th, 2012 at 10:46:04 PM
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I suspect most of the frequent posters and visitors here
will just start (re-)focusing on the thing
that attracted us to wizard's great websites in the first place...
the game
(you just lost)
;-)
will just start (re-)focusing on the thing
that attracted us to wizard's great websites in the first place...
the game
(you just lost)
;-)
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
