I just turned my back and walked away. Maybe I am wrong, but I just don't believe this is how comps are calculated, it may be factor, but not the deciding factor for regular players like us.
To keep a loser coming back.
To keep a winner on property until he gives it back.
Also, comps are supposed to be awared based upon theoretical loss, not actual loss.
On the other hand, it sounds like that casino is sweating every penny.
On the other other hand, if you're consitantly winning, then I can see their point.
So if you play $10,000 on a game with 5% HE, you should have lost around $500, and the casino would comp you a % of that amount.
Winning sessions play a role in determining if one is an advantage player. That is why it is important to rat hole some chips, to make one look like a losing player. But rat-holing is a tricky move. If they see you doing so, it can have very negative consequenses in that they will project much bigger wins that you actually had.
Excellent Point by kewlj,
I am not an Advantage Player. I "rathole" chips to stop me from betting too much on a Craps table. Example; I buy in for $500 and "rathole" all my winnings until I lose about half of my buy-in or until I make a 50% profit; whichever comes first. On a 2 day trip to the Midwest a couple of months ago; I broke EVEN after playing Craps for about 16 hours in 2 days. I tried to get my hotel room comped but was told that they could not comp me because I "won" $2,500. The only valid explanation that I can come up with is they must have seen me putting chips in my pockets and assumed I was winning a lot which was clearly not the case.
..Blackjack works the same way. A bad player, playing hunches will earn far more comps than the basic strategy player playing the same amounts. And if they determine you to be playing with an advantage, such as card counting, one of the first counter-measured is discontinuing comps, bonuses and mail offers. Winning sessions play a role in determining if one is an advantage player. That is why it is important to rat hole some chips, to make one look like a losing player. But rat-holing is a tricky move. If they see you doing so, it can have very negative consequenses in that they will project much bigger wins that you actually had.
To be frank, most floormen almost never rate a player's quality of play, just the action level, so you generally get comped on only bet size and session length. Win amounts and loss amounts are absolutely irrelevant in this equation and are not factored in; it is based solely on your session length and action level profile. However, if you are caught doing any AP malfeasance, the comps may are wiped.
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I just turned my back and walked away.
ALL Comps are based on what money you ACTUALLY RISKED although this is usually an estimated amount. YOU should take your amount risked, your time at play and your game's house edge and calculate your own "THEO". (Theoretical).
Comps are based on your THEO and only receive relatively modest "adjustments" to reflect special circumstances such as big loss, wife standing there looking worried, mistress standing there looking as if she will leave you, first day of four day booking, etc. etc.
Just as you tip a waitress, the casino is expected to "tip" you ... denying you your "tip" because you won money from them is the wrong attitude. Go elsewhere.
If they are not treating you "right"... go to another casino and see what they do.