I win too much to be comped! Is that possible?
I just turned my back and walked away. Maybe I am wrong, but I just don't believe this is how comps are calculated, it may be factor, but not the deciding factor for regular players like us.
Any opinions?
To keep a loser coming back.
To keep a winner on property until he gives it back.
Also, comps are supposed to be awared based upon theoretical loss, not actual loss.
On the other hand, it sounds like that casino is sweating every penny.
On the other other hand, if you're consitantly winning, then I can see their point.
So if you play $10,000 on a game with 5% HE, you should have lost around $500, and the casino would comp you a % of that amount.
Quote: kewljWinning sessions play a role in determining if one is an advantage player. That is why it is important to rat hole some chips, to make one look like a losing player. But rat-holing is a tricky move. If they see you doing so, it can have very negative consequenses in that they will project much bigger wins that you actually had.
Excellent Point by kewlj,
I am not an Advantage Player. I "rathole" chips to stop me from betting too much on a Craps table. Example; I buy in for $500 and "rathole" all my winnings until I lose about half of my buy-in or until I make a 50% profit; whichever comes first. On a 2 day trip to the Midwest a couple of months ago; I broke EVEN after playing Craps for about 16 hours in 2 days. I tried to get my hotel room comped but was told that they could not comp me because I "won" $2,500. The only valid explanation that I can come up with is they must have seen me putting chips in my pockets and assumed I was winning a lot which was clearly not the case.
Quote: kewlj..Blackjack works the same way. A bad player, playing hunches will earn far more comps than the basic strategy player playing the same amounts. And if they determine you to be playing with an advantage, such as card counting, one of the first counter-measured is discontinuing comps, bonuses and mail offers. Winning sessions play a role in determining if one is an advantage player. That is why it is important to rat hole some chips, to make one look like a losing player. But rat-holing is a tricky move. If they see you doing so, it can have very negative consequenses in that they will project much bigger wins that you actually had.
To be frank, most floormen almost never rate a player's quality of play, just the action level, so you generally get comped on only bet size and session length. Win amounts and loss amounts are absolutely irrelevant in this equation and are not factored in; it is based solely on your session length and action level profile. However, if you are caught doing any AP malfeasance, the comps may are wiped.
Warn a host that you will Vote with Your Feet ... and if you are not made happy... then cast your ballot.Quote: SONBP2I just turned my back and walked away.
ALL Comps are based on what money you ACTUALLY RISKED although this is usually an estimated amount. YOU should take your amount risked, your time at play and your game's house edge and calculate your own "THEO". (Theoretical).
Comps are based on your THEO and only receive relatively modest "adjustments" to reflect special circumstances such as big loss, wife standing there looking worried, mistress standing there looking as if she will leave you, first day of four day booking, etc. etc.
Just as you tip a waitress, the casino is expected to "tip" you ... denying you your "tip" because you won money from them is the wrong attitude. Go elsewhere.
If they are not treating you "right"... go to another casino and see what they do.
Quote: CrapsForeverExcellent Point by kewlj,
I am not an Advantage Player. I "rathole" chips to stop me from betting too much on a Craps table. Example; I buy in for $500 and "rathole" all my winnings until I lose about half of my buy-in or until I make a 50% profit; whichever comes first. On a 2 day trip to the Midwest a couple of months ago; I broke EVEN after playing Craps for about 16 hours in 2 days. I tried to get my hotel room comped but was told that they could not comp me because I "won" $2,500. The only valid explanation that I can come up with is they must have seen me putting chips in my pockets and assumed I was winning a lot which was clearly not the case.
This is certainly a casino by casino case. On my second trip to Beau Rivage I had a nice $4,500 win in about an hour on the craps table. The host agreed to pick up our dinner in the BR Prime steakhouse ($360 worth). When it came time to leave, I stopped by to see the host to see about taking care of the rest of my meal charges. He looks at the screen and says, "Nice trip. I see you're up $8,500, but yes, we'll cover all of the charges." I was only up about $1,500. I never rat hole, and always color up, so how they manage to get that far off is beyond me, and I told the host exactly that. The point was, he had already agreed to pick up the charges, even when he thought I was plus $8,500. So not all casinos apparently are run the same.
If you're doing it to get the casino to think you've lost when you won, do so carefully as others have said.
If you're doing it to set aside winnings that you don't want to risk, there are two simple solutions:
Do a partial color-up and don't check-change them back later on.
Or, rather than pocket chips, put a rubber band around some. Add to them if things go well, but never take any out of the rubber band. If the floorman asks what the rubber band is for, be honest.
I "sort" my chips in the rail and I "bank" to my companion when she is there and to my shirt pocket when she is not.
Neither is done after looking around to see if the dealers are looking.
In a previous post I commented that when we asked our host, six months after we had reached the President level, about any available comps she informed us that based on our level of play she would be glad to comp us the buffet. So based on these two experiences, I am done with Stations.
Quote: DJTeddyBearRat-holing....
If you're doing it to get the casino to think you've lost when you won, do so carefully as others have said.
If you're doing it to set aside winnings that you don't want to risk, there are two simple solutions: Do a partial color-up and don't check-change them back later on. Or, rather than pocket chips, put a rubber band around some. Add to them if things go well, but never take any out of the rubber band. If the floorman asks what the rubber band is for, be honest.
After over a decade of playing in Casinos; I have tried every trick in the book to set aside winnings. The only things that work for me consistently are;
A) Giving Chips to my wife (She HATES gambling so she'll only come to the Casino with me if we are on vacation; then she will come for only 30 minutes)
B) Cashing my profits in Chips immediately for Cash at the Cage after every decent win.
C) Rat-Holing Chips
I have tried the partial color-up in several casinos but they almost always ask that I do a full-color up or none at all especially when the table is "HOT".
Is not the Sante Fe an Indian casino in NM?Quote: SONBP2I was at Santa Fe last night...
Maybe I am wrong, but I just don't believe this is how comps are calculated, it may be factor, but not the deciding factor for regular players like us.
Any opinions?
If it is, you are in a different nation and they can do as they please.
IMO, you should ask questions first about all their policies, then complain when they change them, since that is really all one can do is to complain.
That way you can just go to another casino as you wave bye-bye.
Quote: PaigowdanHowever, if you are caught doing any AP malfeasance, the comps may are wiped.
I love how you use only the strongest terms to describe those who use information they gather at the table to possibly gain an ever-so-slight advantage over the house. I know you believe no one should ever have such a thing but it isn't illegal. The house does not have to allow it, either, because they have the right (in most locales) to decide who can and can't play any particular game.
Trying to raise it to the level of a crime (and we're talking about non-criminal acts here, not criminal cheating, of course) to make your argument against it will not make it a crime.
Malfeasance = "wrongdoing or improper or dishonest conduct, especially by a person who holds public office or a position of trust."
Why are you so keen on swindling the casinos? Your "ever-so-slight advantage" isn't going to make you any money unless you grind away at it, day in and day out, dodging detection as you weather a storm of variance over which you have virtually no control. And for what? You own smug self-satisfaction that you've successfully taught the casino a valuable lesson about... putting out games funded by no other means, with odds in their own favor slightly enough that nearly as many players will walk away winners as losers? Yeah, they deserve to be conned out of every penny, just like they conned them out of all the people they were perfectly honest to over the years! Way to use your brain!
Quote: RonCI love how you use only the strongest terms to describe those who use information they gather at the table to possibly gain an ever-so-slight advantage over the house. I know you believe no one should ever have such a thing but it isn't illegal. The house does not have to allow it, either, because they have the right (in most locales) to decide who can and can't play any particular game.
Trying to raise it to the level of a crime (and we're talking about non-criminal acts here, not criminal cheating, of course) to make your argument against it will not make it a crime.
Malfeasance = "wrongdoing or improper or dishonest conduct, especially by a person who holds public office or a position of trust."
This is quite plain and mild, and yes, it is as viewed by the very people who are providing the gaming services for us in the first place. To lose comps when getting caught taking shots at a casino is reasonable, and IS to be expected. No need to make it a crime, never said changing any laws - just a back off and loss of comps is fine and reasonable.
And the word malfeasance is apt, no legal charges apply. Any wrongdoing or improper conduct on a live money game - in the determination of those providing these services to you - may wipe your comps. Jeez, if you get caught card-counting or hole-carding, would you then expect comps on a back-off? What happens if you get caught breaking a lock on a movie house fire door to see movies for free? "You cancelled my Regal Cinemas Rewards card for doing a little thing like this??!! I'm outraged!"
Set up some sort of "Ron's Gambling Hall" then we'll see how you deal with malfeasance.
How would you advertise your AP-friendly casino?
"Hole-carding? -C'mon down to Ron's Gambling Hall - and just take our money! We just love it! We have an unlimited supply just for you - because this is how we run our business. We say: screw the shareholders, and paying our employees - and our light bills - because you, the AP, are the ones we want!"
or:
"Card counting? - We offer 6-deck shoes with 99% penetration and no heat at all! Mid-round entry after Wonging, Dealer stays on S17, DOA, DAS, Resplit aces, and Surrender anytime - all okay at Ron's casino! Jump from $5 to $10,000+ whenever the count is +4 or better, AND get a free comp for the N9NE steak house at the Palms! All on us! We will even set up LCD display screens to show you the count!"
Run your own casino, and see if it possible to set up paradise. When moochers and spongers ("Schnorrers") get to you, - for get about cheats an AP play - you will cut comps yourself as a business decision.
Quote: PaigowdanThis is quite plain and mild, and yes, it is as viewed by the very people who are providing the gaming services for us in the first place. To lose comps when getting caught taking shots at a casino is reasonable, and IS to be expected. No need to make it a crime, never said changing any laws - just a back off and loss of comps is fine and reasonable.
And the word malfeasance is apt, no legal charges apply. Any wrongdoing or improper conduct on a live money game - in the determination of those providing these services to you - may wipe your comps. Jeez, if you get caught card-counting or hole-carding, would you then expect comps on a back-off?
Set up some sort of "Ron's Gambling Hall" then we'll see how you deal with malfeasance.
How would you advertise your AP-friendly casino?
"Hole-carding? -C'mon down to Ron's Gambling Hall - and just take our money! We just love it! We have an unlimited supply just for you - because this is how we run our business. We say: screw the shareholders, and paying our employees - and our light bills - because you, the AP, are the ones we want!"
or:
"Card counting? - We offer 6-deck shoes with 99% penetration and no heat at all! Mid-round entry after Wonging, Dealer stays on S17, DOA, DAS, Resplit aces, and Surrender anytime - all okay at Ron's casino! Jump from $5 to $10,000+ whenever the count is +4 or better, AND get a free comp for the N9NE steak house at the Palms! All on us! We will even set up LCD display screens to show you the count!"
Run your own casino, and see if it possible to set up paradise.
All I said was that your terminology seemed a little strong for something that casinos don't like but that isn't illegal...and you'd have a hard time showing me written rules available to customers saying "counting is forbidden in this casino"...
I also said that people could be backed off or kicked out, so it isn't as if I said that counting should be accepted by the casino.
That being said...I think I could run a fair casino based on my positions. I just think you go a little overboard in the language you use speaking about how horrible and wretched counters and other APs are.
Quote: PaigowdanThis is quite plain and mild, and yes, it is as viewed by the very people who are providing the gaming services for us in the first place. To lose comps when getting caught taking shots at a casino is reasonable, and IS to be expected. No need to make it a crime, never said changing any laws - just a back off and loss of comps is fine and reasonable.
And the word malfeasance is apt, no legal charges apply. Any wrongdoing or improper conduct on a live money game - in the determination of those providing these services to you - may wipe your comps. Jeez, if you get caught card-counting or hole-carding, would you then expect comps on a back-off?
Set up some sort of "Ron's Gambling Hall" then we'll see how you deal with malfeasance.
How would you advertise your AP-friendly casino?
"Hole-carding? -C'mon down to Ron's Gambling Hall - and just take our money! We just love it! We have an unlimited supply just for you - because this is how we run our business. We say: screw the shareholders, and paying our employees - and our light bills - because you, the AP, are the ones we want!"
or:
"Card counting? - We offer 6-deck shoes with 99% penetration and no heat at all! Mid-round entry after Wonging, Dealer stays on S17, DOA, DAS, Resplit aces, and Surrender anytime - all okay at Ron's casino! Jump from $5 to $10,000+ whenever the count is +4 or better, AND get a free comp for the N9NE steak house at the Palms! All on us! We will even set up LCD display screens to show you the count!"
Run your own casino, and see if it possible to set up paradise.
All I said was that your terminology seemed a little strong for something that casinos don't like but that isn't illegal...and you'd have a hard time showing me written rules available to customers saying "counting is forbidden in this casino"...
I also said that people could be backed off or kicked out, so it isn't as if I said that counting should be accepted by the casino.
That being said...I think I could run a fair casino based on my positions. I just think you go a little overboard in the language you use speaking about how horrible and wretched counters and other APs are.
Quote: PaigowdanThis is quite plain and mild, and yes, it is as viewed by the very people who are providing the gaming services for us in the first place. To lose comps when getting caught taking shots at a casino is reasonable, and IS to be expected. No need to make it a crime, never said changing any laws - just a back off and loss of comps is fine and reasonable.
And the word malfeasance is apt, no legal charges apply. Any wrongdoing or improper conduct on a live money game - in the determination of those providing these services to you - may wipe your comps. Jeez, if you get caught card-counting or hole-carding, would you then expect comps on a back-off?
Set up some sort of "Ron's Gambling Hall" then we'll see how you deal with malfeasance.
How would you advertise your AP-friendly casino?
"Hole-carding? -C'mon down to Ron's Gambling Hall - and just take our money! We just love it! We have an unlimited supply just for you - because this is how we run our business. We say: screw the shareholders, and paying our employees - and our light bills - because you, the AP, are the ones we want!"
or:
"Card counting? - We offer 6-deck shoes with 99% penetration and no heat at all! Mid-round entry after Wonging, Dealer stays on S17, DOA, DAS, Resplit aces, and Surrender anytime - all okay at Ron's casino! Jump from $5 to $10,000+ whenever the count is +4 or better, AND get a free comp for the N9NE steak house at the Palms! All on us! We will even set up LCD display screens to show you the count!"
Run your own casino, and see if it possible to set up paradise.
All I said was that your terminology seemed a little strong for something that casinos don't like but that isn't illegal...and you'd have a hard time showing me written rules available to customers saying "counting is forbidden in this casino"...
I also said that people could be backed off or kicked out, so it isn't as if I said that counting should be accepted by the casino.
That being said...I think I could run a fair casino based on my positions. I just think you go a little overboard in the language you use speaking about how horrible and wretched counters and other APs are.
Quote: RonCAll I said was that your terminology seemed a little strong for something that casinos don't like but that isn't illegal...and you'd have a hard time showing me written rules available to customers saying "counting is forbidden in this casino"...
They Don't have to. Internal documents on card-counters and AP play defenses are not shown to the general public. Floormen and above get the report.
Do you expect that YOU have a right to see their internal controls and loss prevention procedures - walking in off the street? Seriously?
Next time you're in a casino, do ask a pit boss or Table Games Director some documentation on their policies on this, and see what they say.
For that matter, walk into Frye's electronics and ask them to show you their surveillance and loss-prevention control policies. See what they say, too.
Quote: RonCThat being said...I think I could run a fair casino based on my positions.
Have you ever tried, or even written up a plausible business plan for a 5-table gambling hall? Try it, and post it here.
Quote: RonCI just think you go a little overboard in the language you use speaking about how horrible and wretched counters and other APs are.
Losing your comps when getting caught commiting malfeasance as calling someone horrible and wretched?
Work in a casino pit for a few years, and your view of AP players - and humanity - will change.
If I bet the same amount against the same HE at Bj, and I use my brain to win, you will call me a cheater or a swindler.
Skip the bullshit about backing me off, that's the casino's right. But counting is NOT cheating.
Quote: buzzpaffIf I walk into an appliance store and offer to pay the same price as the previous customer, they will make a sale.
Go to Sears...
Quote: buzzpaffIf I bet the same amount against the same HE at Bj, and I use my brain to win, you will call me a cheater or a swindler.
Depends on how you use your brain. There are People doing time who used their brains to get there.
Quote: buzzpaffSkip the bullshit about backing me off, that's the casino's right. But counting is NOT cheating.
Not the way most people do it.
Quote: taishan2112The place I work for now has cut the rate that they comp players by over 90% so it wouldn't surprise me if a casino would go as far as only comping people that lose. Right or wrong that's the way they decided to tighten the belt so to speak. The same way its a players choice to play where they want and get taken care of.
It's a smart business decision. If they all did it is anyone going to stop gambling? Raise your hands now. That's what I thought.
Skip the bullshit about backing me off, that's the casino's right. But counting is NOT cheating.
Not the way most people do it.
WIZ PLEASE VERIFY THIS POST WAS MADE BY PAIGOWDAN !!!!
Most counting attempts don't even make it past conspiracy. I guess it was that brain thing....
Dan.
Quote: PaigowdanThey Don't have to. Internal documents on card-counters and AP play defenses are not shown to the general public. Floormen and above get the report.
Do you expect that YOU have a right to see their internal controls and loss prevention procedures - walking in off the street? Seriously?
Next time you're in a casino, do ask a pit boss or Table Games Director some documentation on their policies on this, and see what they say.
For that matter, walk into Frye's electronics and ask them to show you their surveillance and loss-prevention control policies. See what they say, too.
I didn't ask that their internal measures be shown to the public. Many stores have signs that say "Shoplifters will be prosecuted" warning them against committing an act that is illegal. All I asked if they could do was have written, on a copy of rules of the game, that counting is forbidden in the casino. Would that really be too hard to do? Then they could show the player their rules...perhaps before backing him off if he continues to break their written rule...
Quote: PaigowdanHave you ever tried, or even written up a plausible business plan for a 5-table gambling hall? Try it, and post it here.
Again, did I say that I would allow APs to play? No need for a business plan just because I disagree with how much you hate APs.
Quote: PaigowdanLosing your comps when getting caught committing malfeasance as calling someone horrible and wretched?
Again, I have not given a position on this issue. I would guess that, since I back counters off in my little casino and I only have five tables, they'd lose all of what little I could comp once they weren't allowed back in the house!!
Quote: PaigowdanWork in a casino pit for a few years, and your view of AP players - and humanity - will change.
No, thanks.
Work in a casino pit for a few years, and your view of AP players - and humanity - will change.
Been there done that. If anything my viewpoint of humanity changed for the better. I found most players to be incredibly honest.
But then again my prism and yours are quite different , despite growing up in similar environments.
Pool halls, bowling alleys, and bookies. LOL
Quote: RonCI didn't ask that their internal measures be shown to the public. Many stores have signs that say "Shoplifters will be prosecuted" warning them against committing an act that is illegal. All I asked if they could do was have written, on a copy of rules of the game, that counting is forbidden in the casino. Would that really be too hard to do? Then they could show the player their rules...perhaps before backing him off if he continues to break their written rule...
They could but don't. I would have more open policies in Dan's Casino (CSM shoes and 50% penetration double deck, 6:5 single deck, with most of the action being dice, Roulette, EZ Baccarat, EZ pai Gow, Three-card poker where the dealer's packet stays in the shuffle until all play or fold, UTH, etc.)
The status of All this is known by all practioners and known on the internet; the whole realm of AP discussions is of back-offs, using camoflague, cover plays, all indicating that the practice of card counting is obviously unapproved and disallowed by casinos, and can only be done in a clandestine fashion. This openly indicates the nature of this casino AP play as fundamentally nefarious, scheming, and considered malfeasance (oh! that word!)- and not legimate. This is KNOWN by all as "against the house rules, regardless of technical legality" - otherwise it could be done in the open without disguises, cover plays, camoflage, as it would in a utopian Ron's Casino.
Quote: RonCAgain, did I say that I would allow APs to play?
Ahh, I see.....That answers it.
Quote: RonCNo need for a business plan just because I disagree with how much you hate APs.
I don't hate 'em at all, really. That's just my mystique here, the "juice supplier," though I really do think it is a huge waste of human energy and a bad faith practice in which people get the returns they deserve with this fantasy. Some of my business associates in Gaming are ex-AP's (actually, the AP's are all ex-AP's, having had to get real, bona-fide, genuine, valid, authentic, appropriate and reasonable jobs in the gaming industry to remain in it and survive in it.)
Quote: RonCAgain, I have not given a position on this issue. I would guess that, since I back counters off in my little casino and I only have five tables, they'd lose all of what little I could comp once they weren't allowed back in the house!!
Yup, - and you end up with a bunch of retired high school principals, film industry screenwriters and composers, data processing executives, body-shop owners, printing shop owners, electrical engineers, marketing executives, and a whole bunch of normal people who like to play a little cards and dice after dinner and a show, who pay for the losses that AP players inflict upon them. And who themselves don't take shots, or count down decks, or hole-card, and are great to deal to, and have in your casino.
Quote: IbeatyouracesCheating is a felony. Card counting is not so they are NOT the same. And the comment that it is, is slanderous.
Simple B.S. - in the sense that it is not about legality or state statues.
It is about being against the house rules - where it is enough for the pit boss to tell you "You're done for the night, now get out of here before you end up being escorted out." This is a gaming or gambling career, or "the thing to do?" Right.
You see, IBYA, something can be against the house rules policy and get you backed-off and 86'ed, without regard to its legal status. And if its legally comes into play, you further get detained to be arrested by HPD.
That house rule is " BJ is for CHUMPS. Winners are not welcome. "
Winners are welcome. AP players and cheaters are not. Make that distinction.
AP players and cheaters get backed off and 86'ed.
And doing something to get you backed off, or 86-ed, - tells you you are a chump. Clearly.
" AP players and cheaters get backed off and 86'ed."
" You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency? "
One catagory only gets backed off and 86'ed, and does NOT get arrested.
The other catagory gets backed off AND arrested.
I mentioned catagory one AND catagory TWO.
Quote: PaigowdanSimple B.S. - in the sense that it is not about legality or state statues.
It is about being against the house rules - where it is enough for the pit boss to tell you "You're done for the night, now get out of here before you end up being escorted out." This is a gaming or gambling career, or "the thing to do?" Right.
You see, IBYA, something can be against the house rules policy and get you backed-off and 86'ed, without regard to its legal status. And if its legally comes into play, you further get detained to be arrested by HPD.
HPD? Book 'em Danno!
Quote: 1BBQuote: PaigowdanYou see, IBYA, something can be against the house rules policy and get you backed-off and 86'ed, without regard to its legal status. And if its legally comes into play, you further get detained to be arrested by HPD.
HPD? Book 'em Danno!
I don't book 'em. They book themselves.
Quote: IbeatyouracesThats fine Dan, but you MUST differentiate the two. You cannot say one is a cheater but not be a felon. Call me an undesirable but not a cheater.
Well, a couple of things on this, and think about this.
1. You can indeed be a cheater (the definition here being someone who knowingly breaks the house rules of a game) and not get arrested or be a felon. Card counters do this all the time. Casino's point of view? Breaking the house rules regard play on live money games = cheating, enough to go onto surveillance watch lists that are distributed to casinos to bar their play. Felon? No. Does the legal status matter? No. Simply put, you do not get documented by casino surveillance for not cheating in their eyes. You end up there because you've broken the house rules and cheated their system. Doesn't matter how you feel about words.
but I said AP Players (non-felons) AND cheaters (who may or may not be felons) get backed off. Thing of it like a Reece's Peanut butter cup: Chocolate and peanut (different things) get lumped together, in the sense that BOTH get backed off into your mouth.
2. For that matter, you can cheat a six-year old girl at monopoly and not be a felon. here, you have a cheater who is not a felon, and it differentiates itself.
3. If you're an AP player, you'd be crazy to care about what casino surveillance or floormen think and say about you in an emotional sense. It is enough to handle heat, - cry about it, it is a waste of your time.
4. If you ARE going to be a counter, you already don't care about their house rules, so why are you caring about their opinions? If you want them to think nice of you, then don't count. If you count, doesn't matter what they think, it matters if you get 86'ed.
Quote: IbeatyouracesAnd as I've stated before, I have no problem if backed off, kicked out, my comp balance deleted or what have you. It comes with the job description.
If you don't care about being backed off, kicked out, comp account deleted, then they did this because of what they thought about you and your actions in gambling matters also.
We're talking about gambling, AP play, and breaking house rules on Blackjack.
Buzz, you are throwing in Pedophilia as a diversion.
Where is your mind at, exactly.
Mine is on gambling issues, your mind is....where?
I had a similar experience at The Orleans. It was a surprise to me, till some local players told me, one has to lose enough to get comped.Quote: SONBP2I was at Santa Fe last night (again) and we asked about getting a comp for the steak house. Now we rarely asks for comps, but we do play enough to earn them. So we asked for $200 and they told us they could only comp 20% of our losses for the last 60 days. However, for the last 60 days we were actually up about $500 and therefore we were not entitled to any comps based on our table game play. I replied, you see us here 3 to 5 times per week and you know that we rarely ask for comps. The pit boss and host said it didn't matter, they can only base our comps on our last 60 days of play. She then made some comment about how casinos don't let you win more win you are already winning.
I just turned my back and walked away. Maybe I am wrong, but I just don't believe this is how comps are calculated, it may be factor, but not the deciding factor for regular players like us.
Any opinions?
Quote: Mission146In fairness, Dan, you have compared counting to rape...
No - breaking the house rules for live money games is a no-no. But me saying it was Rape or like rape? No, no such thing.
Pretty soon I will be falsely accused of comparing AP players to Hitler. Don't bring in Godwin's Law in your debates with me if I myself do not resort to such debating techniques.
I know you guys disagree with my position, but in all fairness, I didn't compare anything gambling related to rape, pedophilia, etc. in any way, shape or form, but you guys did, and it is not the case on my part.
Disagree with me - yes, and fine. But Godwin's law usage. Nah.
Also see: Reductio ad Hitlerum.
