A Taco Bell casino?
So my question is which brands do you think are conducive to opening a casino.
Yes, it was just off Tropicana near the strip, it was small. It was Near the King 8/wild wild west.Quote: billryanYum Brands is opening up a resort hotel next month in Palm Springs. It is envisioned as the first of a chain of such resorts, with NY, Miami and Las Vegas among future sites. Didn't Howard Johnson's have a casino hotel here for a spell. hooters seems to be making a go of it.
So my question is which brands do you think are conducive to opening a casino.
Quote: billryanSo my question is which brands do you think are conducive to opening a casino.
Calling it "conducive" would spawn an ethical debate, but I think Disney would be amazing in the casino resort business. Think of the design, not only the exterior architecture but the interior decor. And how about game theming? I don't care how bad you guys tell me the house edge is but I'm playing that Uncle Scrooge slot machine. Obviously there'd also be plenty of things to keep the kids busy.
Maybe Disney could ease in the back door and open an ESPN sports book to establish a precedent. Has anyone here taken a Disney cruise? Is there a casino on board?
Coupons for free whopper at the Burger King Casino.
Use 5 coupons without making a purchase or gambling
On the 6th day surrounded by security, accused of fraud for taking the free Whoppers they offered without buying so much as a Coke and Fries.
Even if you purchased the coke, "we still dont want you here because your purchase action didnt measure up to expectations. Everyone knows you have to purchase Fries for it to be legit."
Quote: GialmereCalling it "conducive" would spawn an ethical debate, but I think Disney would be amazing in the casino resort business. Think of the design, not only the exterior architecture but the interior decor. And how about game theming? I don't care how bad you guys tell me the house edge is but I'm playing that Uncle Scrooge slot machine. Obviously there'd also be plenty of things to keep the kids busy.
Maybe Disney could ease in the back door and open an ESPN sports book to establish a precedent. Has anyone here taken a Disney cruise? Is there a casino on board?
For a few years Disneyworld had Pleasure Island which was an adult themed party place. Went one evening. Filled with adults only clubs (dancing not porno) and comedy clubs, lots carny games and musical bands in the streets.
The night I went it was packed but its gone now. Guess it didnt match their branding.
Quote: GialmereCalling it "conducive" would spawn an ethical debate, but I think Disney would be amazing in the casino resort business. Think of the design, not only the exterior architecture but the interior decor. And how about game theming? I don't care how bad you guys tell me the house edge is but I'm playing that Uncle Scrooge slot machine. Obviously there'd also be plenty of things to keep the kids busy.
Maybe Disney could ease in the back door and open an ESPN sports book to establish a precedent. Has anyone here taken a Disney cruise? Is there a casino on board?
I've been told the reason there are very few Marvel themed slots is that since Disney bought Marvel, they won't license new ones. In the late 90s, there had been plans to open a Marvel Super Hero themed restaurant on the Strip but I don't believe it ever opened.
Besides, Disney is very adept at separating its fans from their cash. Why give the suckers a chance to win some back.
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Maybe Disney could ease in the back door and open an ESPN sports book to establish a precedent. Has anyone here taken a Disney cruise? Is there a casino on board?
They could do it like they did Mirimax way back. No Disney-themed slots or games, but their vault is huge. Has to be a ton they can pull from. You are probably spot-on regarding the decor and design. Just call up the imagineers, call up the people who keep Disney World clean and running.
I'm still going to the smaller joints, but the masses would flock there.
Quote: billryan...which brands do you think are conducive to opening a casino.
Just about every entertainment/dining brand could work since the ones that already exist (e.g. MGM, Virgin, Landry's) have already proven themselves as good cross market service providers, and can use their brands as themes:
- Marvel would be awesome, but they would catch heat for enticing children to gamble, and Disney would never risk a casino.
- Eon productions owns the James Bond brand. That would be a natural for a hotel/casino, but MGM would complain.
- Cirque du Soleil would make an attractive hotel/casino combo.
- Any of the major sports leagues, or even individual teams would be very attractive. But connecting their brand to a casino and not having a sports book would be a deal killer. I'm not sure why NASCAR brand didn't go their own way instead of partnering.
- Netflix could be a monster, but is more of a product than an entertainment brand.
- Amazon seems like they could build a successful hotel/casino brand.
Product based brands are tougher. Their images aren't necessarily based on customer service and gaming, so they usually partner with a hotel chain. However, some names could go their own if properly executed:
- Apple - Trendy and cutting edge technology in every room. VR games in the casino.
- In Bev - The owners of Budweiser - A tap at every table.
- Hasbro - A board game themed hotel (e.g., "Monopoly", "Scrabble", "Jenga", "Life", "Twister" themed rooms/floors) would be attractive, and they already license a ton of their IP's to casino games. Of course the fact that they also have games called "Cooties" and "Trouble" won't help, and the attracting kids to gambling is a no-go.
- Harley Davidson - Seems like a natural fit. You could have ride in elevators and hotel room doors so folks could park their bikes in their rooms.
- Phillip Morris could make a Marlboro themed all smoking room hotel/casino.
- Pfizer/Viagra - They could get "Blue Man Group" on an exclusive residency. But competition might be stiff.
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- Pfizer/Viagra - They could get "Blue Man Group" on an exclusive residency. But competition might be stiff.
The competition might be stiff... or the Viagra customers?
Idea of a Coke themed casino reminds me of when I was a kid, there was a soda machine that gave everyone a free spin on an electronic roulette wheel and if the 7 hit, they gave out a free drink. Lot of people would win and not know it. I got a lot of free cans just by walking by and hitting a button
Quote: AyecarumbaJust about every entertainment/dining brand could work since the ones that already exist (e.g. MGM, Virgin, Landry's) have already proven themselves as good cross market service providers, and can use their brands as themes:
Lot of great ideas you listed. Especially love the Cirque idea
Quote:- Any of the major sports leagues, or even individual teams would be very attractive. But connecting their brand to a casino and not having a sports book would be a deal killer. I'm not sure why NASCAR brand didn't go their own way instead of partnering.
Just do it without the sports book and problem solved. A lot of guys would love a sports theme casino
Quote:- Phillip Morris could make a Marlboro themed all smoking room hotel/casino.
- Pfizer/Viagra - They could get "Blue Man Group" on an exclusive residency. But competition might be stiff.
Whoever emerges as the first billion dollar legal weed dealer could do well using that business as a theme for a casino
I can count on one hand the number of adults I know inside gambling who don't eat fast food. Actually, it might just be me.
Doesn't seem to apply to poker players for some reason though.
Anyway, it's probably a profitable idea.
I think there was a time where Disney casinos would create an ethical conflict. But I think we're largely in a post ethical world. If not now, give it 5 years.
Would obviously make a mint.
Quote: billryanI can see someone staying at a Disney resort/casino. I'm not sure Taco Bell has enough fans to pull it off. I believe they are eying the land with that retro fleabag motel down by Mandalay Bay if their proof of concept works in Palm Beach.
Maybe not toxic smell by itself. But what if they had a buffet with several ff joints?
I think a lot of people would love that.
Quote: RigondeauxMaybe not toxic smell by itself. But what if they had a buffet with several ff joints?
I think a lot of people would love that.
That does have possibilities. It's such a good idea, I'm surprised I didn't think of it.
Quote: darkozI can see it now.
Coupons for free whopper at the Burger King Casino.
Use 5 coupons without making a purchase or gambling
On the 6th day surrounded by security, accused of fraud for taking the free Whoppers they offered without buying so much as a Coke and Fries.
Even if you purchased the coke, "we still dont want you here because your purchase action didnt measure up to expectations. Everyone knows you have to purchase Fries for it to be legit."
I wouldn't put it past them to pull this stunt. Burger King had a guy LOCKED(After unlocking the lock) in a bathroom and the Employees, Customers, and Management were LAUGHING as he frantically screamed to be let out. He was handed a fly swatter to Jimmy the lock open which not only didn't work, it cut his hand. When he was finally let outby a Locksmith an hour later, he wanted to sue BK but a Manager said,"Instead of suing, how about we'll just give you free BK for life?" He accepted, and went to BK for his free food like 6 times a day for like a month, and after the month, the Cashier told him she could no longer give him free food as District Office had vetoed on the free food. He understandably raged and reminded her that her Manager said that he would get free BK for LIFE.
She stood hard on District Manager's Veto(Because DM trumps HER Manager) and he went on Social Media to rant about not only being locked in a BK bathroom while staff LAUGHED as he screamed for help, but being given an offer to have free food for LIFE only for them to renage after one month. He pointed out that he should never have been stuck in a bathroom and mentioned how much more traumatizing it would have been had this been some little kid or an elderly person locked in a bathroom and mentioned that much more lucky that it was a middle aged adult stuck in that bathroom. I posted this from memory so forgive me if I got some things wrong.
Quote: billryanI can see someone staying at a Disney resort/casino. I'm not sure Taco Bell has enough fans to pull it off.
As a billion dollar resort trying to compete on luxury, probably a questionable. As a rest stop somewhere in the middle of the desert between Vegas and Primm, a fast food theme casino sounds like such an awesome idea it should have done 20 years ago.
Quote: TomGAs a billion dollar resort trying to compete on luxury, probably a questionable. As a rest stop somewhere in the middle of the desert between Vegas and Primm, a fast food theme casino sounds like such an awesome idea it should have done 20 years ago.
If you've been to the new White Castle in Jean, there is a candy section ten times bigger than needed. I expect they will replace most of it with slots asap.
Quote: GialmereCalling it "conducive" would spawn an ethical debate, but I think Disney would be amazing in the casino resort business. Think of the design, not only the exterior architecture but the interior decor. And how about game theming? I don't care how bad you guys tell me the house edge is but I'm playing that Uncle Scrooge slot machine. Obviously there'd also be plenty of things to keep the kids busy.
Maybe Disney could ease in the back door and open an ESPN sports book to establish a precedent. Has anyone here taken a Disney cruise? Is there a casino on board?
Disney is the single most anti-gaming entity in the US.
There is no casino on any Disney ship.
Disney pulled some of the best slots ever created as they bought up the licensed properties. If anyone ever played the Star Wars immersive slot from a few years ago, or the more recent IronMan slots, you'll notice they are no longer available.
Disney spent over 40 million dollars last year to promote a ballot initiative that killed Florida land-based gaming. They partnered with the devil, aka the Seminole tribe, who didn't want the competition.
In short, Disney sees legalized gaming as a dollar-for-dollar thief of entertainment money they want for themselves. They are ruthless, and rich..
I agree they would be fantastic at developing and running casinos. But they see gambling as a vice, and refuse to have anything, in all their divisions, that encourages or provides a platform for it.
Quote: beachbumbabsDisney is the single most anti-gaming entity in the US.
There is no casino on any Disney ship.
Disney pulled some of the best slots ever created as they bought up the licensed properties. If anyone ever played the Star Wars immersive slot from a few years ago, or the more recent IronMan slots, you'll notice they are no longer available.
Disney spent over 40 million dollars last year to promote a ballot initiative that killed Florida land-based gaming. They partnered with the devil, aka the Seminole tribe, who didn't want the competition.
In short, Disney sees legalized gaming as a dollar-for-dollar thief of entertainment money they want for themselves. They are ruthless, and rich..
I agree they would be fantastic at developing and running casinos. But they see gambling as a vice, and refuse to have anything, in all their divisions, that encourages or provides a platform for it.
I never really thought about it. However, Disney is a company that would seem to have a stake in there being well functioning, middle class families. That's who goes to Disney land, movies, and buys all their stuff.
So out of a selfish perspective, it kind of makes sense for them to take a "moral" stand against a vice that targets and destroys well functioning, middle class families and also prevents some people from ever having them.
There might be some element where, specifically targeting the parents of young children, (and even the kids) and trying to turn them into gambling addicts might draw some negative PR. But it seems more likely to me that they just have a broader, more foreward thinking outlook on what is in their best interests.
Compared to say, a fast food company, which probably benefits from a greater number of people being poor, or having dysfunctional families in which people don't care for their kids properly.
Disney knows they can make more money shearing it's customers than by slaughtering them. Why risk alienating an audience sixty years in the making.
I knew Mickey was F****n goofy, but I didnt know he was evil.Quote: beachbumbabsDisney is the single most anti-gaming entity in the US.
There is no casino on any Disney ship.
Disney pulled some of the best slots ever created as they bought up the licensed properties. If anyone ever played the Star Wars immersive slot from a few years ago, or the more recent IronMan slots, you'll notice they are no longer available.
Disney spent over 40 million dollars last year to promote a ballot initiative that killed Florida land-based gaming. They partnered with the devil, aka the Seminole tribe, who didn't want the competition.
In short, Disney sees legalized gaming as a dollar-for-dollar thief of entertainment money they want for themselves. They are ruthless, and rich..
I agree they would be fantastic at developing and running casinos. But they see gambling as a vice, and refuse to have anything, in all their divisions, that encourages or provides a platform for it.
How about a Google Grand.
I think an Aria 51 themed casino could be cool. Area 51 probably isn't well enough known world wide.
Quote: AxelWolfI think an Aria 51 themed casino could be cool. Area 51 probably isn't well enough known world wide.
As I recall, there is (was?) a sci-fi cat house on the highway out near Area 51 where (for a price) you can live out your geeky fantasies. Star Trek girls, Star Wars girls etc.
Interesting, I had no clue. I don't keep up on cat houses. I have never been to one. Paying for it just isn't my thing.Quote: GialmereAs I recall, there is (was?) a sci-fi cat house on the highway out near Area 51 where (for a price) you can live out your geeky fantasies. Star Trek girls, Star Wars girls etc.
I know The Hilton had a Star Trek casino section, I'm not really into that stuff, but I thought it was cool. They had a Star Trek motion ride that was fun as well. The section even came with good pay VP games.
Speaking of Motion Ride did they take all the motion rides out of The Luxor? If so, I think that's sad.
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Speaking of Motion Ride did they take all the motion rides out of The Luxor? If so, I think that's sad.
I'm certainly not aware of any. And my gf eventually wants to go on a Disney cruise. No casino... sigh.
Not to mention, Disney cruises are twice as expensive as all the other cruise lines for similar itineraries. :P At least some ports of call will have a casino for you.Quote: tringlomaneI'm certainly not aware of any. And my gf eventually wants to go on a Disney cruise. No casino... sigh.
Quote: GialmereAs I recall, there is (was?) a sci-fi cat house on the highway out near Area 51 where (for a price) you can live out your geeky fantasies. Star Trek girls, Star Wars girls etc.
Damn, I would have definitely banged the green girl from star trek.
Im into inter-racial stuff
The Spacequest casino at Las Vegas Hilton was relatively cool—it even had themed bathrooms! Some slots had a motion-activated gizmo to spin the reels. I'd love a Star Trek-themed casino again!
As far as unusual brands, a Taco Bell casino would be the height of kitsch—but for classy kitsch, how about a Starbucks casino? Wired gamblers! Shaky hands at the poker table and craps table! Hope there's no code needed for the bathrooms.
Quote: smoothgrh—but for classy kitsch, how about a Starbucks casino? .
Have the homeless not taken over all the Starbucks near you yet? Might just be a West Coast thing.
Quote: smoothgrhbut for classy kitsch, how about a Starbucks casino? Wired gamblers! Shaky hands at the poker table and craps table! Hope there's no code needed for the bathrooms.
If you added up the square footage of every Starbucks on the strip, I wonder how close you'd get to the square footage of whichever strip casino has the smallest gambling space (Cromwell, maybe)?
