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January 6th, 2018 at 7:14:23 PM permalink
I'm not a poker player.

But I didn't need to be to have thoroughly enjoy this movie. Mrs Q too.

Great story, great acting, great movie. Oscar worthy performances from the cast of Jessica Chastain, Kevin Costner, and Idris Elba.

Go see it.

Related:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/13742-poker-princess/

* yes, I saw it using my $ 9.95 / month movie pass.
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January 7th, 2018 at 8:35:22 AM permalink
You beat me to it. I saw it yesterday and was gonna recommend it.

I agree that you don稚 need to be a poker player to enjoy it.
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January 7th, 2018 at 8:55:42 AM permalink
It was a good movie. I think I enjoyed in more because I love poker and knew about this in real life.... but it isnt oscar worthy performances in my opinion.... unless Toby, Leo, Ben, and others are calling in favors to get votes!
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January 7th, 2018 at 11:00:00 AM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

but it isnt oscar worthy performances in my opinion....

OK, fair enough. I have no idea what exactly drives the Oscar votes. I think MOLLY's GAME will do well at other Award shows. I do know I liked it. It is more engaging and entertaining than Star Wars.
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January 7th, 2018 at 11:10:29 AM permalink
Is it better than Rounders?
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January 7th, 2018 at 1:24:13 PM permalink
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Is it better than Rounders?



Not even close.. Rounders is one the the greatest movies of all time! Check, Check, Check
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January 7th, 2018 at 3:37:20 PM permalink
I highly enjoyed the movie. I didn't have much knowledge of the story beforehand.

Is "Player X" Tobey Maguire in reality?
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January 7th, 2018 at 4:04:30 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Is "Player X" Tobey Maguire in reality?

Probably.

https://screenrant.com/mollys-game-real-player-x/

"...Molly痴 game was stolen by Player X, something the real Molly accused Maguire of. On the page, Bloom claims the actor started getting upset about the money she was making from tips so ended up telling his celeb pals to host their own game instead. In the film, Player X steals her game after Molly calls him out for running another player at her table and potentially ruining its integrity. 添ou池e so f*cked, he tells her over the phone while she痴 on her way to the empty hotel room that should have hosted her weekly game.

Aaron Sorkin says that Player X isn稚 just one person, that he is an amalgamation of several celebrities who Molly wrote about. However, there seems to be another nod to it being Tobey; one of the insults Molly directs at Player X is calling him a 堵reen-screen sh*t and we all know how much Maguire was familiar with when he played Spider-Man.

Maguire has yet to comment publicly about Molly痴 Game."


note: Earlier in the story, Molly gets fired and essentially steals the poker game from someone else. So.....
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January 7th, 2018 at 5:25:44 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

Probably.

https://screenrant.com/mollys-game-real-player-x/

"...Molly痴 game was stolen by Player X, something the real Molly accused Maguire of. On the page, Bloom claims the actor started getting upset about the money she was making from tips so ended up telling his celeb pals to host their own game instead. In the film, Player X steals her game after Molly calls him out for running another player at her table and potentially ruining its integrity. 添ou池e so f*cked, he tells her over the phone while she痴 on her way to the empty hotel room that should have hosted her weekly game.

Aaron Sorkin says that Player X isn稚 just one person, that he is an amalgamation of several celebrities who Molly wrote about. However, there seems to be another nod to it being Tobey; one of the insults Molly directs at Player X is calling him a 堵reen-screen sh*t and we all know how much Maguire was familiar with when he played Spider-Man.

Maguire has yet to comment publicly about Molly痴 Game."


note: Earlier in the story, Molly gets fired and essentially steals the poker game from someone else. So.....



Its tobey maguire in the book
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January 7th, 2018 at 5:28:58 PM permalink
I never even heard of it. I did go to see star wars today with a 3 and 5 year old. That was fun.
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January 7th, 2018 at 5:38:44 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Is it better than Rounders?

No. But it doesn稚 try to be. It痴 also a completely different perspective. Rounders was all about the player. Molly痴 Game is all about the management.
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January 7th, 2018 at 7:00:25 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

No. But it doesn稚 try to be. It痴 also a completely different perspective. Rounders was all about the player. Molly痴 Game is all about the management.



More importantly Rounders was fiction

This is based on true events. From that perspective it is constrained by actual events (although im sure they took liberties)
But a more proper comparison on that level would be comparing it to 21
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January 8th, 2018 at 4:21:23 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Is "Player X" Tobey Maguire in reality?

Yes. Both Molly Bloom and the director felt the book and movie were not 'tell all' works. Names that were already in the headlines would stay there, names that had not yet made the headlines would be protected. No one was to be "outed". The value is in the earnestness and intensity not the autograph book. The value was in the keep the game going; keep yourself going. The value was in not making a distinction between a few million and a few hundred million.
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January 8th, 2018 at 11:20:09 AM permalink
We saw it yesterday, and loved it. Highly recommended. We didn't really care how much was true, it was a good movie with excellent performances.
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January 13th, 2018 at 9:43:16 PM permalink
Just saw it today. Liked it but didn't love it. For what it is worth, I wouldn't put this on any list of gambling movies. While it centered around a high-stakes invitation-only poker game for the rich and famous, the central character, who runs the game, never makes a single bet. The movie is not about poker. Still, it's a good movie. Good story and well told. Would I see it twice -- no. Somebody asked if it was better than Rounders. Not even close.

BTW, in case anyone is wondering, I read that the book, which I haven't read, pretty much says Player X is Toby Maguire.

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January 13th, 2018 at 10:46:30 PM permalink
lots of my friends are doing the dealing in this movie.
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January 14th, 2018 at 6:07:48 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

, the central character, who runs the game, never makes a single bet.

WRONG. She is "all in" every moment of every day and night, in every decision she makes: game location, participants, eye candy, her wardrobe, her cards, her shuffling machine, her collection methods. She was betting constantly for a long time. And all those 'MeTooers" can see she never made any of those decisions on her knees even though she is in a world full of high testosterone, high risk, high dollar bets.
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January 14th, 2018 at 6:45:55 AM permalink
never heard of the movie, but will see it thx to this thread
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January 14th, 2018 at 6:57:51 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

WRONG. She is "all in" every moment of every day and night, in every decision she makes: game location, participants, eye candy, her wardrobe, her cards, her shuffling machine, her collection methods. She was betting constantly for a long time. And all those 'MeTooers" can see she never made any of those decisions on her knees even though she is in a world full of high testosterone, high risk, high dollar bets.



I knew someone would say that. Granted those are all business decisions but they aren't a "bet" in the sense of wagering on the turn of a card or roll of the dice, which is how the word is typically defined. I stand by my statement
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January 14th, 2018 at 7:13:58 AM permalink
Molly Bloom being interviewed by Ellen:

"Saw one player lose $100 million in one night."

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January 14th, 2018 at 7:53:49 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I knew someone would say that. . . . . I stand by my statement

Of course and justly so. Its not the turn of the card but its the entire lifestyle. She actually had to learn poker but she didn't play or place any bets. She did run the entire show day in and day out. That is the real 'game'. Bicoastal high stakes invitational poker, not Texas Hold 'Em.

On-edit: It was bi-coastal high stakes invitational poker in an upscale location and upscale atmosphere. No security goons, no druggies or drug use, estrogen present but not for sale. The game was not merely 'poker'.
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January 14th, 2018 at 9:07:14 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Its not the turn of the card but its the entire lifestyle. She actually had to learn poker but she didn't play or place any bets. She did run the entire show day in and day out. That is the real 'game'. Bicoastal high stakes invitational poker, not Texas Hold 'Em.



I agree.
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January 14th, 2018 at 1:50:37 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Just saw it today. Liked it but didn't love it.

As previously stated, I thought it was a very entertaining, engrossing film. Not just a gambling movie, much more to it than that. Also nuch better that others I have seen recently, including "The Shape of Water" ( despite its awards at the Golden Globes, I don't think "Water" ever came together 100 %. The trailers made it look very interesting, but it seemed like 2 or 3 movie concepts/styles jammed together ).
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January 14th, 2018 at 2:22:15 PM permalink
I do want to see it, but It's a dumb name IMO. It sounds like a made for Lifetime(women) movie. Even the movie poster makes it look like some fatal attraction type of flick.

I cant find it available anywhere online yet(that suggests to me it's not going to do well in the main stream).
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January 14th, 2018 at 3:15:24 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I do want to see it, but It's a dumb name IMO. It sounds like a made for Lifetime(women) movie. Even the movie poster makes it look like some fatal attraction type of flick.

I cant find it available anywhere online yet(that suggests to me it's not going to do well in the main stream).



The story is about a woman named Molly who runs a Poker Game

"Molly's Game" seems a straightforward name to me
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January 14th, 2018 at 4:08:48 PM permalink
I saw it yesterday. I enjoyed it. Definitely not at a Rounders type poker movie. Like others have said, it痴 not exactly a poker movie at all.

Worth the money for the ticket for sure.
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January 14th, 2018 at 5:11:04 PM permalink
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January 14th, 2018 at 5:14:20 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

The story is about a woman named Molly who runs a Poker Game

"Molly's Game" seems a straightforward name to me

Because you probably knew the backstory. I knew some of the backstory as well, yet that name never rung a bell when I saw the title of the thread(I had no idea what this thread was even about.)

I bet I could ask 20 random people about Mollys Game and most of them would have no clue what I'm talking about.

Trust me, it's a terrible name and a terrible movie poster, unless you are into lifetime type movies.
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January 14th, 2018 at 5:28:34 PM permalink
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If you only see one movie a year ... then you don't get out enough.



I don't get out enough and I'm also quite a bigot.
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January 14th, 2018 at 5:56:01 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

If you only see one movie a year ... then you don't get out enough.


I haven't been to a movie theater in 12 years.
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January 14th, 2018 at 6:05:18 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Because you probably knew the backstory. I knew some of the backstory as well, yet that name never rung a bell when I saw the title of the thread(I had no idea what this thread was even about.)

I bet I could ask 20 random people about Mollys Game and most of them would have no clue what I'm talking about.

Trust me, it's a terrible name and a terrible movie poster, unless you are into lifetime type movies.



Yes its not a household recognized name. It would be considered a targeted film with a specific audience

My guess is "the Darkest Hour" which is currently playing rings no bells by name recognition only. These are choices made by the filmmakers. Sometimes they score and sometimes they dont

I think this particular film was targeted towards people familiar with the book more than anything else. The book sold well enough to justify the adaptation
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January 14th, 2018 at 7:33:29 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Yes its not a household recognized name. It would be considered a targeted film with a specific audience

My guess is "the Darkest Hour" which is currently playing rings no bells by name recognition only. These are choices made by the filmmakers. Sometimes they score and sometimes they dont

I think this particular film was targeted towards people familiar with the book more than anything else. The book sold well enough to justify the adaptation

Just to be clear, I'm not bashing the movie. I have a feeling I will enjoy it. I like most movies that are based on true stories.

I just thought the name and movie cover could have been better and at least given more of a hint what it was actually about.
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January 14th, 2018 at 7:41:16 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz



My guess is "the Darkest Hour" which is currently playing rings no bells by name recognition only.



Axle thinks it has something to do with blk ppl. BLM movement maybe?
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January 14th, 2018 at 8:01:27 PM permalink
I assumed it is about N.O. Saints fans
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January 14th, 2018 at 8:16:29 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

Axle thinks it has something to do with blk ppl. BLM movement maybe?

The Darkest Hour at least sounds interesting compared to Molly's Game.

Assuming your an American male. You have no information what either movie is about. If the Wife/GF says, "Hey, would you rather see Mollys Game or The Darkest Hour?" I'm thinking, "Who the hell is Molly and what will she be wearing?" You probably shouldn't ask your GF/Wife that and just go with The Darkest Hour.
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January 15th, 2018 at 1:47:51 AM permalink
Atleast there is an expression of some sort about the darkest hour is just before the dawn.

Molly's Game could be about tiddlywinks except many people are aware of:
the conspiracy charges being lumped with people she had never met or heard of,
the NY/NJ crime aspects
the current male rape, male domination publicity and the high testosterone nature of big stakes poker,
the publication of a book by Molly Bloom dealing with poker and poker rakes.

A title is usually brief. I remember some Hollywood figure who thought "The Star Chamber" was going to be about space aliens rather than the Criminal Justice system.
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January 15th, 2018 at 5:07:26 AM permalink
Holy carp, what a stupid debate.

It痴 like you people have never heard of IMDB or Fandango...
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January 15th, 2018 at 6:35:28 AM permalink
Well, if I had to choose between a movie called IMDB and one called Fandango...
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January 15th, 2018 at 7:54:26 AM permalink
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Holy carp, what a stupid debate.

It痴 like you people have never heard of IMDB or Fandango...



IMDB should be saved for the trump thread

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January 15th, 2018 at 8:02:15 AM permalink
It was bothering me during the movie where I had seen the actor who plays the judge in Molly's Game. Hours after the movie it occurred to me -- Leonard from Northern Exposure. Very similar kind of personality in both performances.
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January 15th, 2018 at 8:13:43 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I knew someone would say that. Granted those are all business decisions but they aren't a "bet" in the sense of wagering on the turn of a card or roll of the dice, which is how the word is typically defined. I stand by my statement



I agree with the Wizard. It isn't a gambling movie. The plot revolves around a game, but the movie isn't about gambling.

Still, it is a well told story, IMO, beautiful to look at and worth the cost of admission.
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February 3rd, 2018 at 10:59:18 AM permalink
If you're still at all interested (or want a ready excuse to not be somewhere else), check your email; I got an offer from CET yesterday for a free ticket at select AMC locations. The threshold for this offer seems pretty low, as one person I checked in with got it and only pulled about 200 points last year.

Sender: email@email.caesars-marketing.com
Subject: A special gift just for you! You cannot miss this: enjoy these free tickets.
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February 3rd, 2018 at 12:02:44 PM permalink
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February 3rd, 2018 at 3:24:41 PM permalink
I am pretty sure everyone got it. I was going to go today but only 1 showing and it was 1155am and I was busy.
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February 3rd, 2018 at 7:48:33 PM permalink
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I am pretty sure everyone got it.



Does yours end in 7489 too? I took two to the box office, sent to different people, and they were the exact same code. The guy was like, "Uh. What kind of a code is this, anyways? Whatever, here you go." ...and promptly gave me tickets (with assigned seating) to a screen playing 12 Strong, whereupon five minutes in, I decide that it REALLY didn't look like a movie related to poker, and wandered out to see if I could figure out where I was actually supposed to be.
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February 4th, 2018 at 5:33:29 AM permalink
I watched it online, for free. Entertaining since I was interested but too many unanswered situations. I also don't go to the theaters because, as I say, can watch online for free.
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February 4th, 2018 at 6:00:49 AM permalink
Quote: Venthus

Does yours end in 7489 too? I took two to the box office, sent to different people, and they were the exact same code. The guy was like, "Uh. What kind of a code is this, anyways? Whatever, here you go." ...and promptly gave me tickets (with assigned seating) to a screen playing 12 Strong, whereupon five minutes in, I decide that it REALLY didn't look like a movie related to poker, and wandered out to see if I could figure out where I was actually supposed to be.



Yes it does. Both of ours are the same as well.
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July 6th, 2018 at 9:29:31 PM permalink
So I finally watched this movie. I had a free red box code so I got it there I enjoyed the movie. Toby McGuire seems like a real prick. I cznt imagine being involved in these types of things. I wonder how much of this is still going on?
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July 6th, 2018 at 11:51:26 PM permalink
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. I wonder how much of this is still going on?

Well, the great poker boom fizzled and a lot of poker dealers in casinos where given their walking papers but i'm sure there is a lot going on but not at the levels of Molly's game. Molly did her year in the pen and wrote a best seller and jumped on a female entrepreneurship bandwagon. I think the lawyers are still feasting over the spoils of the ny law that allows reaching back into Ponzi schemes for that 'fund manager' that was just a thief.
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July 7th, 2018 at 7:38:47 AM permalink
Why do i see that great film only today? That film are 1917y?
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