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richodude
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February 17th, 2023 at 5:33:45 PM permalink
I was thinking of ideas for new table games and I think I came up with a good one. Some pros are:
    - the rules are simple (provided you are familiar with poker)
    - there is an element of strategy
    - it requires 1 betting unit
    - the pace of the game is fast (I'd estimate 80-100 hands per hours if comparing to blackjack's 100)
    - Dealing procedures are relatively simple


I've included an incredibly scuffed (I say that due to no tripod or script) pilot video explaining the rules

2 ideas for side bets are first a 2 card bonus. a pair, flush, SF, rf, or suited pair can pay off your first 2 cards only. The other idea is a 5 card saver which only plays when the player stays on 4 cards or less. This bet allows the player to never miss out by drawing to 5 cards after their main bet has been resolved.

Some psych problems I see are being let down when you're dealt a winning hand, draw to 5 cards with no improvement and realise you missed out on 5x what you should have gotten. Vice versa with stopping too early and realising you could have improved. However, this issue exists with blackjack and some would argue that this missing out is what makes the game fun.

I'd love to know if you guys think I have a good idea and if it's worth calculating. The math seems incredibly hard though and I'd definitely need help
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February 17th, 2023 at 5:41:04 PM permalink
i hate to say this but this idea is so unique that i dont think you should have told the world about it except if you were to try to patent it
richodude
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February 17th, 2023 at 6:01:12 PM permalink
I thought similarly but is there really any money in the carni games business? If I wanted to make this a reality I’d have to outsource everything to the point where the concept is the only thing that’s mine. At least though if you think it deserves a patent it’s definitely worth some fun in a casino!
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February 17th, 2023 at 10:03:10 PM permalink
This game would not be difficult at all to analyze, IMO.
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February 18th, 2023 at 4:53:31 AM permalink
Is this designed to be dealt from a multi-deck shoe?

(I understand that the demo may have been dealt from a stacked deck for illustrative purposes.)
May the cards fall in your favor.
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February 18th, 2023 at 8:20:01 AM permalink
Quote: richodude

I thought similarly but is there really any money in the carni games business? If I wanted to make this a reality I’d have to outsource everything to the point where the concept is the only thing that’s mine. At least though if you think it deserves a patent it’s definitely worth some fun in a casino!
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There isn't a ton of money in most, but licensing royalty can add up if you get a multi-casino chain to sign on. Years ago, someone told me that a licensed side bet could earn $5 per table per shift, although someone else said it was $5 a day. That was twenty years ago.
If those numbers are accurate, getting into twenty casinos would pay between $100 and $300 a day. That is not chump change.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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February 18th, 2023 at 8:55:18 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

There isn't a ton of money in most, but licensing royalty can add up if you get a multi-casino chain to sign on. Years ago, someone told me that a licensed side bet could earn $5 per table per shift, although someone else said it was $5 a day. That was twenty years ago.
If those numbers are accurate, getting into twenty casinos would pay between $100 and $300 a day. That is not chump change.
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Those numbers are WAY over inflated.

More like $100 per table, per MONTH. And that’s for a good, proven game.
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February 18th, 2023 at 8:59:06 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: richodude

I thought similarly but is there really any money in the carni games business? If I wanted to make this a reality I’d have to outsource everything to the point where the concept is the only thing that’s mine. At least though if you think it deserves a patent it’s definitely worth some fun in a casino!
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There isn't a ton of money in most, but licensing royalty can add up if you get a multi-casino chain to sign on. Years ago, someone told me that a licensed side bet could earn $5 per table per shift, although someone else said it was $5 a day. That was twenty years ago.
If those numbers are accurate, getting into twenty casinos would pay between $100 and $300 a day. That is not chump change.
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Hi ALL,

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* Math at Wizard of Odds: Perfect11WoO.com

Main-game: from $100-$300 per table per Month. e.g. CasinoHoldemPoker.com
P.S. Sometimes I offer it for FREE too.
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Most of them have GLI-Approved too.
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February 18th, 2023 at 3:00:04 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Quote: billryan

There isn't a ton of money in most, but licensing royalty can add up if you get a multi-casino chain to sign on. Years ago, someone told me that a licensed side bet could earn $5 per table per shift, although someone else said it was $5 a day. That was twenty years ago.
If those numbers are accurate, getting into twenty casinos would pay between $100 and $300 a day. That is not chump change.
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Those numbers are WAY over inflated.

More like $100 per table, per MONTH. And that’s for a good, proven game.
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So about $5 a day per table.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
richodude
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February 18th, 2023 at 5:08:55 PM permalink
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Is this designed to be dealt from a multi-deck shoe?

(I understand that the demo may have been dealt from a stacked deck for illustrative purposes.)
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yes! 6 decks. I want the possibility of suited ranks along with a faster paced game. My local casino hand shuffles all their single-deck games and the HPH is something like 30 which is not only bad for the casino but super boring!
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