simon.joseph
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March 18th, 2020 at 11:51:32 AM permalink
I'll try to be concise. I live in Canada, fwiw.

1) It seems overly expensive to register as a game supplier. Are there cheap ways to do it? Are there companies that will supply your game affordably?

2) I did the math for my game. I have a partner with programming background who is willing to make a simulation of many hands to confirm the house edge my math indicates. Initial research seems to indicate that any efforts of myself or my friend would be fruitless, because regardless of the simplicity of the math, or the data derived from the simulation, the game must go through reputable mathematicians. Can I become reputable? Who should I send the work to? Should my partner run the simulation? What will outsourcing this cost?
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March 18th, 2020 at 2:46:46 PM permalink
Quote: simon.joseph

I'll try to be concise. I live in Canada, fwiw.

1) It seems overly expensive to register as a game supplier. Are there cheap ways to do it? Are there companies that will supply your game affordably?

2) I did the math for my game. I have a partner with programming background who is willing to make a simulation of many hands to confirm the house edge my math indicates. Initial research seems to indicate that any efforts of myself or my friend would be fruitless, because regardless of the simplicity of the math, or the data derived from the simulation, the game must go through reputable mathematicians. Can I become reputable? Who should I send the work to? Should my partner run the simulation? What will outsourcing this cost?



In the U.S. there are companies that the states require to certify your games before they can be introduced into the casino. Gaming Laboratories Inc, and BMM seem to be the major ones. If you are required to go that route they can test the math and certify your math for you.
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March 18th, 2020 at 2:52:23 PM permalink
I'm trying to figure out what exactly constitutes a "reputable mathematician".
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simon.joseph
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March 19th, 2020 at 3:50:48 PM permalink
Not sure if it's a serious question, or just a welcomed reason to post xkcd, but I mean a mathematician where the casino will recognize their work.
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March 19th, 2020 at 4:09:12 PM permalink
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Not sure if it's a serious question, or just a welcomed reason to post xkcd, but I mean a mathematician where the casino will recognize their work.



The only people the casino will recognize are GLI and BMM. If you are confident in your math, you don't need to go through another mathematician.

GLI costs more, but is recognized by more jurisdictions. You must have something good before going this route, because they will charge you dearly.
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May 3rd, 2020 at 8:44:14 AM permalink
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GLI costs more, but is recognized by more jurisdictions. You must have something good before going this route, because they will charge you dearly.



Is what GLI charges modified by the quality/name of the mathematician doing the initial development work? Or by the quality of the (math)report generated during development? Or are they always starting from the bottom and redoing all the work themselves?
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May 3rd, 2020 at 10:53:13 AM permalink
Quote: socks

Is what GLI charges modified by the quality/name of the mathematician doing the initial development work? Or by the quality of the (math)report generated during development? Or are they always starting from the bottom and redoing all the work themselves?



FWIW

If you make a game, lets call is "coin flip." Even though you know there are only two outcomes and both are equally likely, some casinos will require GLI report. GLI will give you a report and state that is only their opinion. This will protect them from liabilities. They do their own math/computer simulation etc...

Expect to be charged a minimum of about $1500 for their opinion that they write up in a very formal looking report.

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May 3rd, 2020 at 7:59:18 PM permalink
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Is what GLI charges modified by the quality/name of the mathematician doing the initial development work? Or by the quality of the (math)report generated during development? Or are they always starting from the bottom and redoing all the work themselves?



As stated above, it doesn't make much of a difference (if any). They are going to verify the math with the same scrutiny regardless of who provided it.
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May 15th, 2020 at 1:46:58 AM permalink
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