An overdue Money$uit 31 update (new game demo)
Quote: beachbumbabsBrent,
Thanks for the response on my post. I see what you're talking about with the MS paying multiples (and I did when I made my comments). I think your new pay table is a good one, probably better over all, and I didn't recall the previous one correctly as to the max pays. I just enjoyed the quirky nature of the first one and was talking about that. May the game live long and prosper! :)
Haha thanks Babs!
Quote: nodummy57Not jealous, but definitely envious of your tenacity. Look forward to playing your game in a casino in the near future.
Thank you for that nodummy
Let me know what you all think when you have a chance to take a look. Any feedback will be applied to later updates...
The game looks like it will be entering multiple northeastern jurisdictions by Q2 of this year, therefore I would like to make the website as clear as possible.... Updates on these potential trials will be posted under a separate thread if/when the time comes.
Thank you all for the continued assistance.
Regardless, from my very green perspective, step one is get in a casino; step 2 is do well when you are in there and step 3 is use the evidence you did well to build off of. Looks like you would be on my step 3 and if my research is correct not many ever see that step. So I wish you the best. It sounds like you have got the pieces in place to succeed. Good luck!
Quote: kobaljWhat does northeastern jurisdiction mean? Is that multiple states in the northeast portion of the US? Are you planning on applying to a bunch at once or just one?
Regardless, from my very green perspective, step one is get in a casino; step 2 is do well when you are in there and step 3 is use the evidence you did well to build off of. Looks like you would be on my step 3 and if my research is correct not many ever see that step. So I wish you the best. It sounds like you have got the pieces in place to succeed. Good luck!
That was a typo. It was supposed to say northeast jurisdictions. It's looking like 2 or 3 individual states.
Thank you for the well wishes.
Care if we (guess I'll speak for others lol) ask which states?Quote: mrsuit31That was a typo. It was supposed to say northeast jurisdictions. It's looking like 2 or 3 individual states.
Thank you for the well wishes.
Good to hear it's rolling out to more places!! It's a fun game, I could see people liking it.
Quote: RomesCare if we (guess I'll speak for others lol) ask which states?
Good to hear it's rolling out to more places!! It's a fun game, I could see people liking it.
Thanks Romes. You have been an advocate for some time now...
It's looking like New Jersey and West VA, however, once things are set in stone I will inform of the specific facilities. Fingers crossed...
Quote: mrsuit31Hittem,
I added a little blue on both re rules leg and put the slogan at the top of the demo page... That should satisfy your statements as far as he lack of rules.
As far as the 3 betting spaces, I'm pretty sure that one of the lowest number of spaces on any table game that exists these days. UTH has 4, three card has 3, double draw poker has 4, miss stud has four, crazy for card has four, cross cross poker has like 47...
Of course you are entitled to you opinion and I thank you for taking a look at the materials I had posted...
It's not just the three betting spots. You also have two separate spots on the layouts for cards. When walking past, it would appear to be quite a confusing game at first glance.
Quote: HittemIt's not just the three betting spots. You also have two separate spots on the layouts for cards. When walking past, it would appear to be quite a confusing game at first glance.
I am not at all concerned. The five months of data also has already proven that this is not an issue (at least in that locality).
You are certainly still entitled to your opinion.
It's not the Mini but still pretty cool with that draw card... I don't think I've ever drawn a useless bomb like that. Still waiting on that screenshot you owe me...
Quote: mrsuit31I am not at all concerned. The five months of data also has already proven that this is not an issue (at least in that locality).
You are certainly still entitled to your opinion.
Ask the creators of Match 'Em Hi-Lo how their small sample size of success in a single casino in Iowa translated elsewhere..... Or Go Fore It for that matter.
Quote: panda1314How many hands dealt so far?
In what context?
I don't have data for the demo, but the game was live for five months at its previous placement...
Any thoughts on the game?
5 mon * 30 days/ mon * 12 hours / day * X hands / hour = ???
And so on. Just a suggestion.
Quote: panda1314Imo, if you have another number besides the 5 months, u could have a stronger case. How many hands dealt could be estimated by:
5 mon * 30 days/ mon * 12 hours / day * X hands / hour = ???
And so on. Just a suggestion.
I appreciate the suggestion...
The numbers that are the ones that have been the primary concern to the people I have spoken with ti this point have been the comparative drop/win/hold% figures, which were quite impressive during those five months... I haven't been asked a specific total hands figure to date, not that I wont be asked in the future...
The hands per hour for Money$uit 31 is on par with that of three card poker, the only additional step to the virtually identical game play is the shaking of the dice to determine the Money$uit.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I would still certainly like to hear your opinion on the game itself if your willing to supply it...
That would be the answer to his question.
I answered the question by saying we use the same hands per hour as three card.
Quote: Gabes22LOL. He gave you a 3 paragraph answer and didn't ask you one question in his response
And for the record, I asked his opinion in the last sentence...
I had difficulty determining if I got payed correctly since the payouts are covering the table:
Quote: AyecarumbaThe Money$uit multiplier seems a little weak at only 2X or 3X. As a Player I'd like to see some differentiation between the lower and higher paying totals. Also, I would like to see the "Trips" after the "Hand Total" s on the pay table, since it isn't a hand total (just like the mini royal).
I had difficulty determining if I got payed correctly since the payouts are covering the table:
Thanks for the chips covering the paytable issue. Let me talk with my developer and see if he can change that up to resolve that problem.
Regarding the multiplier, let me play with the spreadsheets a little and see what can be done to perhaps increase those a bit... The only real issue will be having to drop out some of the lower payouts which would significantly hurt the hit rate on the game. But let me see what I can do... Keep those ideas coming and I shall try and mix things up a bit...
Thank you for taking the time to play around.
Quote: beachbumbabsHere's a pic I owed you... :)
It's about time babs! Haha
Quote: mrsuit31Quote: beachbumbabsHere's a pic I owed you... :)
It's about time babs! Haha
Well, if you liked the last one, this one's pure porn....
Quote: beachbumbabsWell, if you liked the last one, this one's pure porn....
But it wasn't natural ;)
Quote: mrsuit31Quote: beachbumbabsWell, if you liked the last one, this one's pure porn....
But it wasn't natural ;)
But it WAS the moneysuit, and my first miniRoyal, so it can be the penultimate post. Kind of like 3rd base...
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: mrsuit31Quote: beachbumbabsWell, if you liked the last one, this one's pure porn....
But it wasn't natural ;)
But it WAS the moneysuit, and my first miniRoyal, so it can be the penultimate post. Kind of like 3rd base...
Lol almost all the way home.......
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NEW: (please excuse the slightly crude nature of the image)
Keep the feedback coming. It's much appreciated.
So does the dealer place the packet of 4 cards to an empty spot on the layout and then drag the top card from the packet into the Draw Box?
I agree on the layout, and that's exactly how I'd deal the game with a packet shuffler. I'm doing a five or seven card game, dealing seven and sliding the top two back for use if the player draws them.Quote: ParadigmI didn't mind the old layout, but given the two options as a starting point, I would chose the new one.
So does the dealer place the packet of 4 cards to an empty spot on the layout and then drag the top card from the packet into the Draw Box?
Yes, the procedure is to place the four card packet just to the right of the play wager circle and drag the top card to the draw space. Same procedure as the old layout, just the elimination of the visual marker of that unnecessary $ card box...
Quote: UCivanI would suggest you put the two paytables on two separate sides of the betting circles. Also, you might want to consider using different colors for the betting circles. I have to say it's never easy to pick good colors.
Ok, Ill see how that looks with the pay tables on different sides....
You don't like the Golden side wager vs. the Black base game circles? That's one of the reasons I had done those in different colors... For the contrasting color recognition between the base game and side wager... You think I should make them more pronounced if able? Or did you just mean different colors than they are now...?
I just could not get excited about Black and Golden with dark green background. When I look at the layouts by Galaxy Gaming, AGS, Scientific Gaming, I kinda feel excited / energized / invited, wanting to play the games. Your layout feels tiring, exhausted. Unfortunately, I cannot tell what colors are good.Quote: mrsuit31Ok, Ill see how that looks with the pay tables on different sides....
You don't like the Golden side wager vs. the Black base game circles? That's one of the reasons I had done those in different colors... For the contrasting color recognition between the base game and side wager... You think I should make them more pronounced if able? Or did you just mean different colors than they are now...?
Quote: UCivanI just could not get excited about Black and Golden with dark green background. When I look at the layouts by Galaxy Gaming, AGS, Scientific Gaming, I kinda feel excited / energized / invited, wanting to play the games. Your layout feels tiring, exhausted. Unfortunately, I cannot tell what colors are good.
I won't be able to choose the felt color as of course I will have to follow suit with the in place color scheme existing on the floor. Once that color is set, no matter what I will have to change the circles/boxes accordingly.
The green black and gold is simply a generic layout for demo and game manual purposes. The color scheme is not something I will have prepared until I know which facility I will be entering. For example, even if I have a set design for a specific felt color, if the casino had an image on the felt like a white eagle (as they did in Canada) I may not even be able to use a previously designed color scheme as it may conflict and bleed into the backround design. The felt color scheme is really the last step before submission/launching...
The post was really to show how I altered it to take care of the "busy-ness" concerns you guys had expressed.
But your reaction to this color scheme is certainly noted.
For demo and game manual? Therefore, the color choice is VERY important.Quote: mrsuit31
The green black and gold is simply a generic layout for demo and game manual purposes.
I agree with UC that you need to liven up the color scheme, but I bet the introduction of a red betting spot and using the gold color for the large draw box, brightens things up a lot.
Quote: ParadigmTake a look at Red for the bonus bet and change the title in on the Bonus Bet pay table to Red as well. I would use the gold color for the draw box color as it is not a betting spot like the black ante/play circles. Very few properties have red background layouts and where they are present you switch the Red to White.
I agree with UC that you need to liven up the color scheme, but I bet the introduction of a red betting spot and using the gold color for the large draw box, brightens things up a lot.
I'll see how that looks...
