mrsuit31
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January 30th, 2016 at 9:13:51 AM permalink
To all of those that have been following this over the years, and all that are new to the game… This is a much needed update. We finally had a successful trial in Michigan, as most of you had seen in my posts in the recent past. The game was outdropping roulette and was the 4th highest dropping table on the floor. The game wasn’t holding as expected yet, due to the drop being so high, it was still the 5th highest winning table on the floor. It was doing incredible…

Due to reasons out of my control, the game was unfortunately pulled off of the floor regardless of its performance. I walked out of the second day of the Bar Exam and came back to the multiple text messages from the Director apologizing about the situation. Needless to say, the timing was horrible. After discussing the issue with several people involved I went through every portal possible, but unfortunately could do nothing to resolve the issue on my own. The fact that it had nothing to do with the game made it even harder to swallow. I want those of you aspiring developers to keep that in the back of your mind before undertaking this journey. It is a brutal industry, with many twists and turns.

Luckily I’m still very close with at the Director at the facility and can perhaps get the game back up and running, when the time comes. He constantly expresses that he would happily vouch for the game in the meantime.

Even though the game had a very heavy boulder dropped on it from above, I was at least able to compile very positive data from the five months of play to show proof of concept. As a result of the data and additional feedback from new players and dealers, I have decided to make one final change to the paytables before taking the game to the Table Games Conference this upcoming year. The website has been updated with the changes and a new demo is ready to play. These new paytables are, in my opinion and many others, the cleanest and easiest to read. The game layout looks much cleaner as well.

I would love to hear everyone’s thoughts on the new paytables, layout and demo. As most know, this feedback has helped the game improve over the years. The math is on the site as well, pending GLI approval, for those that may be interested. The only thing not yet updated is the procedural video. That is coming soon.

I look forward to hearing what everyone has to say.
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Paigowdan
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January 30th, 2016 at 12:01:51 PM permalink
Brent,
The game is fine. With performance like you stated, this isn't technical, it's political. That's Different: get installs outside of the State.
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DJTeddyBear
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January 30th, 2016 at 12:08:47 PM permalink
Quote: mrsuit31

... Even though the game had a very heavy boulder dropped on it from above, I was at least able to compile very positive data from the five months of play to show proof of concept. ...

Five month of data, successful data at that, is great. But as soon as you present it to another casino, they're gonna ask why it was pulled from that casino.

Do you have a good answer?

If so, can you share it here?

Continued best of luck to you...
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EvenBob
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January 30th, 2016 at 12:16:57 PM permalink
What casino was it in. What were the reasons that
were 'out of your control'.
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Paigowdan
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January 30th, 2016 at 12:22:53 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Five month of data, successful data at that, is great. But as soon as you present it to another casino, they're gonna ask why it was pulled from that casino.

Do you have a good answer?

If so, can you share it here?

Continued best of luck to you...



Yes. But he has to mention the scenario with innocence. Brent was told: "Mr. Weiss, your game is doing exceptionally well here, to say the least. In fact, we are quite impressed! - Unfortunately, counselor, for some undisclosed reason, we have to remove it." People in this business know that politics are involved; the numbers say "keep the game." He needs a straw man.
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EvenBob
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January 30th, 2016 at 12:28:34 PM permalink
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mrsuit31
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January 30th, 2016 at 12:42:22 PM permalink
In a nutshell, it was a compact issue. I not being part of the tribe can not even ask questions of the Governor's office about it. I tried...

Because it's tribal, neither State gaming or Federal gaming (NIGC) have jurisdiction to answer questions or do anything.

I spoke to people at both agencies who agree with my reasoning, yet again can do nothing about it.
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MathExtremist
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January 30th, 2016 at 12:58:45 PM permalink
Quote: mrsuit31

In a nutshell, it was a compact issue. I not being part of the tribe can not even ask questions of the Governor's office about it. I tried...

Because it's tribal, neither State gaming or Federal gaming (NIGC) have jurisdiction to answer questions or do anything.

I spoke to people at both agencies who agree with my reasoning, yet again can do nothing about it.

If it's a tribal casino, the tribal gaming commission has jurisdiction, not the state regulators (or federal ones). I assume you took care of all your compliance and licensing requirements before installing the game, but if you missed something, that's probably why the game was removed.
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Ibeatyouraces
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January 30th, 2016 at 1:10:11 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

What casino was it in. What were the reasons that
were 'out of your control'.


I forget which one but it was one of the U.P. casinos in the western part.
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January 30th, 2016 at 1:11:17 PM permalink
I'm very sorry to hear that. It must be very hard to take, given that the game was performing well and you never got a straight answer why it was being pulled. Perhaps a change in management? Some table game managers like to be the guinea pig for new games and others want nothing to do with them. I wish I could give some words of encouragement but every future casino is going to ask about this placement and drill you about why it was pulled.

You're welcome to contact me privately if you want my advice or just a shoulder to cry on.
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