beachbumbabs
beachbumbabs
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June 12th, 2014 at 8:11:47 PM permalink
darkoz,

I'm a Spades player and competition Bridge player for several decades now; played Whist starting about age 6 (all related games for those who don't play them). As I said my first post, I personally would play your game happily just as it stands. But your audience has to be wider, and is less experienced, and often drinking, and the people who deal and oversee your game don't want to put that much effort into it from the get-go. You can put out a very simple Spades game in the first iteration, build a following, then bring out an Ultimate or some version that's more complicated, and some of those people will come with you and build that game in turn.

None of that solves the validation-renege problem. People want to win, and want to play their best cards. You have to build in the protections you have to protect the HE against 4 player cards vs. 2 dealer cards. But it's become convoluted and vulnerable in doing so.

It'll be interesting to see what Charles brings back on vulnerabilities, and whether it can be dealt face-up (if he's evaluating that). Seems like the only way to minimize the problem short of major revamping.

I wish you the best with it. I think I have some other comments, so if I may reserve the right to return if they seem worth raising, I'd appreciate it.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
ShineyShine
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June 16th, 2014 at 5:55:23 PM permalink
I quite like it, and would probably play it in a casino. I've never played Spades, but we used to play a similar game called something like 'Cho Dah Dee'... the 2 of Spades was the most powerful card.

I 100% agree with bbb about the renege rule... This would be a mess procedurally, and time consuming. If there's a way to get rid of this, i'd definitely try to find it.

Good luck.
crapsdude
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June 29th, 2014 at 2:20:18 PM permalink
interesting game. i'd probably give it a shot and play it in a casino
damian.phillips
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November 29th, 2016 at 6:03:54 AM permalink
I think that the rules are very complicated. I am a fan of the classic Spades and I find the casino elements very strange, they doesn't fit in my vision for the game. I personally play spades online at VIP Spades.
VonVester
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December 2nd, 2016 at 12:28:10 AM permalink
I love it. I played the video game version and that helped me to understand the rules. I think most casino players would get it after playing a couple of hands.

Wonderfully creative idea. I always admire games that aren't just a variation of an existing casino game. The game industry, I feel, needs much more variation than is currently out there, and this would definitely add another genre of games to the mix.

I wish you the best of luck getting this installed in a casino.
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