SkittleCar1
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April 18th, 2014 at 12:45:07 PM permalink
I'm not a table game inventor at all. But, an idea came into my head after trying to fall asleep after a night at the casino. The main game it is based off is Three Card Poker. Now I know a company owns that game, so who know how much more legal crap you'd have to go through.
The Basics
-Three Card Poker, using 6 Spanish decks (no 10's) dealt from a shoe.
-The Pair Plus pay scale would obviously have to change.
-There would be a chance for a three of a kind flush.

This is nothing I would ever pursue, just looking for some thoughts and discussion.

I have tested this out with my girlfriends 12 year old son playing multiple hands, and we have found it to be fun. The first noticeable change to the Pair Plus would be the flush pay out. Its much easier to get one now. Also, there is one less straight to obtain, with the 10's out. I haven't done any math on it, nor will I. Not real sure if card counters would have any effect on it. It doesn't make the game better, its just different. Its just going to be something we will play for fun in the comfort of our home.

Thoughts?
Opinions?
Tar?
Feathers?
FinsRule
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April 18th, 2014 at 1:05:57 PM permalink
The math would be so confusing! And yes, very countable.

And I know you know this, but there's a lot less straights to get, not just one. The 10 can be in 1st, 2nd or 3rd position.

Game sounds fun, but a huge uphill climb to be casino worthy.
SkittleCar1
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April 18th, 2014 at 1:11:19 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule


And I know you know this, but there's a lot less straights to get, not just one. The 10 can be in 1st, 2nd or 3rd position.



Honestly....for the amount of thought I put into it, I didn't really think of that. LoL.
Dicenor33
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April 18th, 2014 at 1:21:44 PM permalink
Three card poker is a tough game. You have to lift chips up and you have to put them down.
FinsRule
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April 18th, 2014 at 1:23:05 PM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

Three card poker is a tough game. You have to lift chips up and you have to put them down.



How does this contribute to the discussion?
MathExtremist
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April 18th, 2014 at 2:40:29 PM permalink
Games where you shuffle every hand aren't countable...
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April 18th, 2014 at 2:43:51 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

Games where you shuffle every hand aren't countable...

He said he would use a 6 deck shoe.
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April 18th, 2014 at 3:01:16 PM permalink
Ahh, totally missed that. Dealing a poker game (any poker game) from a 6 deck shoe is also typically a bad idea; it's been explored a few times in the past but nobody's ever really nailed it. You end up with hands like suited pairs or trips and nobody intuitively knows where those should rank.
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April 18th, 2014 at 3:04:03 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

Ahh, totally missed that. Dealing a poker game (any poker game) from a 6 deck shoe is also typically a bad idea; it's been explored a few times in the past but nobody's ever really nailed it. You end up with hands like suited pairs or trips and nobody intuitively knows where those should rank.



Also, what is the point of removing the 10s?

This is done in games blackjack-type games ike Spanish 21 to increase the house edge without the players really noticing, so they can offer other rules that are beneficial to the player. Doing it in a poker-type game seems like it would just confuse people.
SkittleCar1
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April 18th, 2014 at 3:30:42 PM permalink
The first thought in my head (at least with the multiple decks) was to add the possibility of the 3 of a kind flush. And removing the 10's takes away some straights. Advantage for the house maybe? I guess it was just for some wrinkles and to make it different than regular Three Card Poker.
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April 18th, 2014 at 3:40:30 PM permalink
Quote: SkittleCar1

The first thought in my head (at least with the multiple decks) was to add the possibility of the 3 of a kind flush. And removing the 10's takes away some straights. Advantage for the house maybe? I guess it was just for some wrinkles and to make it different than regular Three Card Poker.



IMO, for a game that has payouts for straights, it is very strange (confusing) to have a gap in the middle of your set of ranks.

It would not give the house an advantage on the main game, but it would obviously change things for the pair-plus bet. IMO you would be better off leaving the 10s in and just reducing the payout for a straight (or some of the other payouts)
SkittleCar1
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April 18th, 2014 at 4:14:53 PM permalink
Great point. There would be a big gap between a flush and a straight. I guess with the 10's gone also, it would make the straight flush less likely to come up.
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