One for the Money opening
Quote: beachbumbabsYours holds a disadvantage to the many other users and readers of this forum in that it can do real damage to the opportunities made available.
What on earth does this mean. I have no idea what
you're talking about, please explain. My opinion can
cause 'real damage'? I must be one powerful fellow.
Nobody listens to me, I'm the forum buffoon, the
local curmudgeon. You give me far too much credit.
I see a different world than you, is that now a crime
in this country? Where you see rainbows and lollipops,
I see realistic outcomes and how the actual world
operates. One view causes constant disappointment,
the other, expected outcomes based on experience.
Which is more viable. (viable: capable of working successfully; feasible.)
Quote: beachbumbabsindustry people including dtg's of casinos who can provide pathways to new games read this forum. You alienate them and those opportunities diminish in number. Which hurts me and other game designers looking for placements. I'm lucky. .
Are you serious?? Big dumb me, sitting in MI on
my computer, has the power to make or break
the casino game designing industry with my
OPINIONS? Is this industry built of cobwebs and
fairy dust, then? I'm a nobody, a nothing, a sad
old guy who gums his soup and spouts off.
Tell me you're joking.
It could cause a crisis of confidence that could ripple throughout the entire gaming industry! This time next week the nation's casinos will be EMPTY!
For the record, I think this game is horrible and boring. It's casino war except the dealer gets two cards instead of one. Even the biggest sucker isn't gonna fall for that long. And having the ace be a low card is insane and is going to alienate players for life who get dealt aces and play them by accident.
Now that my negative comments have doomed this game, all existing casino games, and any other potential game, what should this forum talk about? Suggestions?
Quote: sodawaterHow dare someone say something (gasp!) NEGATIVE in a thread?!
It could cause a crisis of confidence that could ripple throughout the entire gaming industry! This time next week the nation's casinos will be EMPTY!
For the record, I think this game is horrible and boring. It's casino war except the dealer gets two cards instead of one. Even the biggest sucker isn't gonna fall for that long. And having the ace be a low card is insane and is going to alienate players for life who get dealt aces and play them by accident.
Now that my negative comments have doomed this game, all existing casino games, and any other potential game, what should this forum talk about? Suggestions?
I don't care whether you like the game. Nothing suits everyone. You missed my point.
Quote: 1BBYou've got a lot of power, Bob.
I try not to let it go to my head. Me and Buzz
are taking over the gaming industry any day
now. If only Steve Wynn would take my calls..
Is OFTM in play anywhere else?
But U said NO. This would be unfair to other casino patrons.
Somebody has to stand up for the little guy !
Quote: BuzzardSteve Wynn wanted to put my games in all his casinos exclusively.
But U said NO. This would be unfair to other casino patrons.
Somebody has to stand up for the little guy !
Very funny buzz. Really. I'm over it. Carry on, all.
Quote: BuzzardSteve Wynn wanted to put my games in all his casinos exclusively.
But U said NO.
I said no because your games were all stolen ideas
from existing Parker Bros board games. Monopoli?
Scrabbled? Boggles? You didn't even bother to
change the names much.
Quote: BuzzardI am working on a quadruple roulette wheel, with a poker side bet now.
That might work.. Use 3 balls at once.
Quote: BuzzardI am considering using a die for the 4th wheel, to attract dice setters
Can you get it done for ICE, it starts Tuesday. I think
you have the next EZ Bac-EZ Paigow-EZ BJ all rolled
into one game.
Would love to meet both you old codgers one day!!! LOL
Quote: BuzzardWho are you talking about ? Surely not me !
Surely not :)
Buzz, our game will be installed in a casino in Switzerland on the 27th February on a "fun night". The casino Director wants to see the game perform where no money is involved. After that the casino will reply for our Swiss gaming license and the game will go live on or about the 8th March.
We aren't expecting much but at least our feet are in the door.
As most of you guys said, this game will more than likely not work in the USA (and it turns out we will have patent issues anyway) but we have no such issues in Europe or most of Asia.
Quote: TomspurYou guys sure are the class clowns :)
Would love to meet both you old codgers one day!!! LOL
If Buzz ever met me he'd realize I was the one
who stole his motorcycle in 1971 and he'd try
and get money out of me.
farther than the average guy. CONGRATULATIONS.
I would NEVER suggest anything underhanded, but when girls I went to dealers schoolwith, would deal LIVE for the first time after passing an audition, me and Josie would show up at their table.
Just to help the dealer get over her jitters.
If fun night is open house, I'd have friends 2 deep waiting to play my new and exciting game. Nothing unfair about that.
It's what happened when it goes LIVE for real that matters.
GOOD LUCK
Quote: Buzzard
It's what happened when it goes LIVE for real that matters.
Then it's cobwebs and crickets.. Hey, that would make a
good title for a country western song. Buzz probably
has his lawyer trademarking it already. Thief..
has his lawyer trademarking it already. Thief.. "
I thought you were calling me a thief at first.
But then I read it again.
Quote: BuzzardFun nights usually aren't a good indicator. But you have made it a lot
farther than the average guy. CONGRATULATIONS.
I would NEVER suggest anything underhanded, but when girls I went to dealers schoolwith, would deal LIVE for the first time after passing an audition, me and Josie would show up at their table.
Just to help the dealer get over her jitters.
If fun night is open house, I'd have friends 2 deep waiting to play my new and exciting game. Nothing unfair about that.
It's what happened when it goes LIVE for real that matters.
GOOD LUCK
I agree that a fun night isn't usually where its at in the US but this is an entirely different market with almost entirely different rules when it comes to how they percieve new things.
Also we aren't able to skip the first step, it is a necessary evil if we want to prove to the Director that the game can be dealt efficiently as well as have a little bit of player interest.
The proof will however be in the going "live". Maybe we hear crickets maybe we don't.....Kinda like rolling the dice eh? :)
Great game like Switch, SHFL the 800 lb gorilla among distributors, 10 placements in Colorado, all gone within 6 months. But you have beaten the odds so far. Hope you make it ALL THE WAY !
Quote: Buzzard
Great game like Switch, SHFL the 800 lb gorilla among distributors, 10 placements in Colorado, all gone within 6 months.
I heard it was more like 15..
Should not have that trouble with Free Bet. Now, House Money, who knows ? Could be another Rabbit Hunter !
Quote: BuzzardNot like rolling the dice at all. Thousand games patented every year. A hundred make it to a casino floor. And only 1 or 2 each year establish a foothold. No matter how good the game, how big the distributor, it is still one hell of a long shot.
Great game like Switch, SHFL the 800 lb gorilla among distributors, 10 placements in Colorado, all gone within 6 months. But you have beaten the odds so far. Hope you make it ALL THE WAY !
My analogy with rolling the dice was merely pointing to the success or lack thereof on the "fun night". That night is quite obviously what will determine our immediate success in that location, no more, no less hence, rolling the dice :)
Quote: beachbumbabsI'm pleased to report that One for the Money will be opening at Diamond Jo's Dubuque next week (I don't have an exact date). This is the Quad Cities area which includes Rock Island and Moline IL, and Dubuque and Davenport IA; closest large cities are Chicago, Memphis, Minneapolis, St. Louis, though the metro area is not small at around 425K. Diamond Jo's is a Boyd property; I haven't been there, but it looks quite nice on the website (below) and is on the banks of the Mississippi River. If you're in the area, please go have a look. And keep your fingers crossed for us, please.
Diamond Jo's
Congrats Babs! I live about an hour from Dubuque and will give it a shot next time I am there. If you make a visit, PM me, would love to meet the game creator.
Just to correct the geography, the Quad City area includes Rock Island IL, Moline IL, Davenport IA, and most consider Bettendorf IA as the fourth city (although some consider East Moline IL as the fourth). In the Quad Cities there are three casinos, the Isle of Capri, Rhythm City, and Jumers.
Dubuque is also on the Mississippi but about 90 miles north on the tri-state corner of Iowa, Wisconsin, and Illinois and not part of the Quad Cities. The population is right around 58K, there is a touristy area in Galena IL about 20 miles away. There is a competing casino, the Mystique in Dubuque, which is a dog track converted to casino.
You are correct, the Diamond Jo is very nice aesthetically, but it's mailers are weak to average at best and there isn't a poker room.
Quote: ShineyShineJust an observation on the layout tough...I thought the betting boxes were too far away from the dealer. The dealer was fairly short, but not overly so, and kept having to lean right over the float to reach the chips on the raise box.
With the right dealer that could definitely fill up all the spots at the table!
Quote: MidwestAPQuote: beachbumbabsI'm pleased to report that One for the Money will be opening at Diamond Jo's Dubuque next week (I don't have an exact date). This is the Quad Cities area which includes Rock Island and Moline IL, and Dubuque and Davenport IA; closest large cities are Chicago, Memphis, Minneapolis, St. Louis, though the metro area is not small at around 425K. Diamond Jo's is a Boyd property; I haven't been there, but it looks quite nice on the website (below) and is on the banks of the Mississippi River. If you're in the area, please go have a look. And keep your fingers crossed for us, please.
Diamond Jo's
Congrats Babs! I live about an hour from Dubuque and will give it a shot next time I am there. If you make a visit, PM me, would love to meet the game creator.
Just to correct the geography, the Quad City area includes Rock Island IL, Moline IL, Davenport IA, and most consider Bettendorf IA as the fourth city (although some consider East Moline IL as the fourth). In the Quad Cities there are three casinos, the Isle of Capri, Rhythm City, and Jumers.
Dubuque is also on the Mississippi but about 90 miles north on the tri-state corner of Iowa, Wisconsin, and Illinois and not part of the Quad Cities. The population is right around 58K, there is a touristy area in Galena IL about 20 miles away. There is a competing casino, the Mystique in Dubuque, which is a dog track converted to casino.
You are correct, the Diamond Jo is very nice aesthetically, but it's mailers are weak to average at best and there isn't a poker room.
Midwest,
Thanks! I had a major brain-yaknow about Dubuque v Davenport. Never lived in Eastern Iowa (Sioux City, Okoboji, Des Moines, Iowa City, and nearby Omaha all at different times). We were looking at a possible trip up last night and my sis could NOT convince me the mapquest directions were correct (drive 61.2 miles north on whatever). I finally looked at it. I will definitely PM you if we make the trip, which looks very likely at the moment.
Quote: ShineyShineJust an observation on the layout tough...I thought the betting boxes were too far away from the dealer. The dealer was fairly short, but not overly so, and kept having to lean right over the float to reach the chips on the raise box.
Shiney,
Thanks for the good wishes! That layout was new to me as well, and I'm not sure of the reasons for moving it around. It may well be an alternate design they're trying, or they may have moved to it for good; I don't think anything's set in stone at the moment. I did see in the UK there are a lot of multiple-player per spot layouts that we don't see in the States, and they might be trialing that design to allow for those to be added (at least that seemed like the most likely reason to me). Since the player doesn't have to touch the cards with a face-up deal, perhaps they will move the entire player spots up towards the center of the table more. Then again, it never hurts to give a nicely-endowed woman a reason to lean towards you and smile...as mentioned above. lol....
Quote: DrMehCongratulations! I'm new to the forum and casino game design/inventing and hearing success stories like this (despite what the pessimists say) is inspirational.
Welcome to the forum, DrMeh, and thanks for the congrats! I hope your designs do well for you; there are a lot of excellent resources on here for nearly every aspect. I used the professional services of several in building the game and was universally pleased with their work. PM me if you like, or read the thread from October where I get into the weeds on the game, to get an idea of who worked with me in what capacities.
Quote: beachbumbabsShiney,
Thanks for the good wishes! That layout was new to me as well, and I'm not sure of the reasons for moving it around. It may well be an alternate design they're trying, or they may have moved to it for good; I don't think anything's set in stone at the moment. I did see in the UK there are a lot of multiple-player per spot layouts that we don't see in the States, and they might be trialing that design to allow for those to be added (at least that seemed like the most likely reason to me). Since the player doesn't have to touch the cards with a face-up deal, perhaps they will move the entire player spots up towards the center of the table more. Then again, it never hurts to give a nicely-endowed woman a reason to lean towards you and smile...as mentioned above. lol....
Babs, it could simply have to do with the maintenance crew who installed the layout on the game. They may have moved the betting cisrcles further away from the dealers as the dealers enjoy more working space in front of them, place to cutt he chip and count the money without encroaching on the actual betting areas. It could also be that they simply made a boo-boo by not measuring the layout accurately when installing.
That is an easy fix so I wouldn't worry about it too much.......
Go to Diamond Jo's!!!! :)
Quote: TomspurBabs, it could simply have to do with the maintenance crew who installed the layout on the game. They may have moved the betting cisrcles further away from the dealers as the dealers enjoy more working space in front of them, place to cutt he chip and count the money without encroaching on the actual betting areas. It could also be that they simply made a boo-boo by not measuring the layout accurately when installing.
That is an easy fix so I wouldn't worry about it too much.......
Go to Diamond Jo's!!!! :)
Tom,
I don't think it was a boo-boo. I think it's probably different markets, different preferences and requirements. But I could be wrong.
Quote: beachbumbabsTom,
I don't think it was a boo-boo. I think it's probably different markets, different preferences and requirements. But I could be wrong.
Babs, darling, you were only wrong once. And I think you were unduly influenced by Aceossapdes. They say marriage is better the second time around. As long as I don't have to sign a pre-nup. Surely you can trust me ?
Quote: beachbumbabsShiney,
Thanks for the good wishes! That layout was new to me as well, and I'm not sure of the reasons for moving it around. It may well be an alternate design they're trying, or they may have moved to it for good; I don't think anything's set in stone at the moment. I did see in the UK there are a lot of multiple-player per spot layouts that we don't see in the States, and they might be trialing that design to allow for those to be added (at least that seemed like the most likely reason to me). Since the player doesn't have to touch the cards with a face-up deal, perhaps they will move the entire player spots up towards the center of the table more. Then again, it never hurts to give a nicely-endowed woman a reason to lean towards you and smile...as mentioned above. lol....
There could also be a security issue with having the boxes so close to the player, particuarly the outer ones.
And i know we're joking about the well endowed lady leaning across, but this may make some dealers feel uncomfortable.
I hope im not sounding too negative or nit-picking, i really do like the game! Like Tomspur said, it should be an easy enough fix. I also agree with Paradigm that you should go play it with players betting real money.
Once again, best of luck with it.
