SHFL Game Demo Day
June 23rd, 2013 at 4:52:53 AM
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Just throwing some chum in the water:
Would any aspiring inventors like to participate in a game-demo day July 22 at SHFL?
We can accommodate eight games, one per inventor. Outside games only; nothing from SHFL. The event should take 2-3 hours.
The first eight people to sign and return the confidentially waiver will be included.
Your games will be reviewed by the table-games department at SHFL, including general manager John Hemberger, North American product director Ryan Yee and game developer/mathematician Elliot Frome.
It's possible--repeat possible, not guaranteed--that a game from this event could be displayed at our booth at G2E in September.
If interested, contact me at rsnow@shfl.com.
Would any aspiring inventors like to participate in a game-demo day July 22 at SHFL?
We can accommodate eight games, one per inventor. Outside games only; nothing from SHFL. The event should take 2-3 hours.
The first eight people to sign and return the confidentially waiver will be included.
Your games will be reviewed by the table-games department at SHFL, including general manager John Hemberger, North American product director Ryan Yee and game developer/mathematician Elliot Frome.
It's possible--repeat possible, not guaranteed--that a game from this event could be displayed at our booth at G2E in September.
If interested, contact me at rsnow@shfl.com.
June 23rd, 2013 at 7:38:14 PM
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Quote: Pacman
The first eight people to sign and return the confidentially waiver will be included.
Your games will be reviewed by the table-games department at SHFL, including general manager John Hemberger, North American product director Ryan Yee and game developer/mathematician Elliot Frome.
Wish I had something new worthy of presenting. Does the above statement mean game ideas get reviewed prior to the demo, and from there 8 are selected? Or can the guy with a game on a napkin get in the action?
June 23rd, 2013 at 7:52:43 PM
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Quote: 21RevolutionOr can the guy with a game on a napkin get in the action?
That demo was last week in Sri Lanka. Nobody
showed up..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 23rd, 2013 at 8:10:54 PM
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Quote: 21RevolutionWish I had something new worthy of presenting. Does the above statement mean game ideas get reviewed prior to the demo, and from there 8 are selected? Or can the guy with a game on a napkin get in the action?
Napkins accepted.
Developers can choose to show their games personally or they can elect to have me show them in their stead.
We are down to seven open spots.
June 23rd, 2013 at 8:14:47 PM
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Despite having scored dead last in my last showing at a SHFL event, I'm VERY tempted to jump on this.
I've made significant changes to Poker For Roulette since then, and I know I can do a better job of demoing it.
Lemme sleep on it...
I've made significant changes to Poker For Roulette since then, and I know I can do a better job of demoing it.
Lemme sleep on it...
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
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June 23rd, 2013 at 8:47:21 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBear
I've made significant chanes to Poker For Roulette since then,..
Is it now called Poker for PaiGow? That IS a big change..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 23rd, 2013 at 9:03:49 PM
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If SHFL should come to the east coast, I'm game to do a demo, no pun intended. If SHFL should come to AC, let me know.
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June 23rd, 2013 at 10:08:45 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: DJTeddyBear
I've made significant chanes to Poker For Roulette since then,..
Is it now called Poker for PaiGow? That IS a big change..
Actually I think DJ has made some significant improvements/changes to the version he demo'd at SHFL Focus 1.....quicker bet resolution, higher hit rate, etc....like all new games, it is still going to be a huge hurdle to get a trial, but this version has a better shot than the last version.
June 24th, 2013 at 6:13:08 AM
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Six spots left.
June 24th, 2013 at 11:48:43 AM
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What time? morning or PM? I have a mtng at noon...
June 24th, 2013 at 1:10:47 PM
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Quote: AceCrAAckersIf SHFL should come to the east coast, I'm game to do a demo, no pun intended. If SHFL should come to AC, let me know.
Evidently you feel asleep in religion class at Saint Joe's.
"If the mountain won't come to Mohammed, Mohammed will go to the mountain."
Don't pass on this opportunity. I regretfully must do so.
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the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
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Tis but the casket
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The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
June 24th, 2013 at 4:36:27 PM
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4 spots remaining.
June 24th, 2013 at 8:58:48 PM
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And then there were three.
June 27th, 2013 at 8:01:20 AM
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Just bumping this in case anybody has not yet seen this golden opportunity.
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Nor give the heart
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Tis but the casket
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The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
June 27th, 2013 at 8:08:18 AM
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too far for me
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June 27th, 2013 at 8:11:17 AM
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How close does a dream have to be ? Just asking.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
June 27th, 2013 at 9:25:47 AM
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Quote: PacmanAnd then there were three.
Are you willing to demo my three dice craps game for me? 200-1 on a rolling a 3 or 18. Easiest way to win $1000 at a casino on a $5 bet.
I think craps people can get used to hearing "11 out!"
June 27th, 2013 at 9:34:58 AM
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Quote: FinsRuleAre you willing to demo my three dice craps game for me? 200-1 on a rolling a 3 or 18. Easiest way to win $1000 at a casino on a $5 bet.
I think craps people can get used to hearing "11 out!"
Nice!
I also partially put together a Three-Dice Craps game, if you want to exchange notes via PM. Except, there were two, "Out," numbers, if I recall correctly.
My Field Bet was really, really cool. I got the House Edge to be exactly the same as standard Craps!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
June 27th, 2013 at 9:37:58 AM
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Quote: BuzzardHow close does a dream have to be ? Just asking.
To be honest, they should be coming to me! ;-)
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June 27th, 2013 at 9:51:20 AM
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Quote: FinsRuleAre you willing to demo my three dice craps game for me? 200-1 on a rolling a 3 or 18. Easiest way to win $1000 at a casino on a $5 bet.
I think craps people can get used to hearing "11 out!"
You mean like Cee-lo? Ok, not quite the same, but someone had a version like this at last years G2E.
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June 27th, 2013 at 10:07:56 AM
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Quote: mipletYou mean like Cee-lo? Ok, not quite the same, but someone had a version like this at last years G2E.
Tough to deliver well, holding and rolling 3 dice rather than 2 makes a difference for the player, plus it smacks of duplication rather than innovation. Having said that Craps is big your side of the pond so it might work.
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June 27th, 2013 at 11:07:59 AM
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Quote: Mission146Nice!
I also partially put together a Three-Dice Craps game, if you want to exchange notes via PM. Except, there were two, "Out," numbers, if I recall correctly.
My Field Bet was really, really cool. I got the House Edge to be exactly the same as standard Craps!
It's on my blog 4/18/2010. I have the name all set too! I can't wait for the money to roll in (PUN!) Mission!
July 8th, 2013 at 8:26:56 AM
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Are there still 3 spots ? Really !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
July 8th, 2013 at 8:38:32 AM
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Cool, I'm going to PM you the details of the game I was kicking around. If you want, we'll share notes and ideas for the Hell of it!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
July 8th, 2013 at 8:42:53 AM
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Quote: Mission146Cool, I'm going to PM you the details of the game I was kicking around. If you want, we'll share notes and ideas for the Hell of it!
Come on Mission. Let us all see what influence hotel management has had on you .
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
July 8th, 2013 at 8:46:04 AM
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Quote: BuzzardCome on Mission. Let us all see what influence hotel management has had on you .
LOL
I don't do that anymore, I'm in distribution, now. It's a good time, good job, and my arms are friggin' ripped! I went from 6'4" 228 to 6'4" 198 in the matter of two and a half months. I'd love the abs to match the arms, but too many years of abdominal neglect has rendered that impossible...or highly improbable.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
July 8th, 2013 at 9:22:38 PM
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Distribution? Oh, is that anything like my first real job, unloading trailer full of products in basement of grocery store ?
No pallets, individual cases of stuff, like Carnation and Per evaporated milk, 96 cans of each. Plus everybody bought a 5 lb bag of sugar. 18 bags inside a big paper package. 90 lbs each and would just get stuck on rollers, so had to be carried from truck and
100 feet into basement. Just wonderful in summer months, 140 or so in truck, Baltimore humidity 95 or higher.
6 ' 4 " . Did not know they piled it that high.
No pallets, individual cases of stuff, like Carnation and Per evaporated milk, 96 cans of each. Plus everybody bought a 5 lb bag of sugar. 18 bags inside a big paper package. 90 lbs each and would just get stuck on rollers, so had to be carried from truck and
100 feet into basement. Just wonderful in summer months, 140 or so in truck, Baltimore humidity 95 or higher.
6 ' 4 " . Did not know they piled it that high.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
July 9th, 2013 at 3:46:21 AM
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LOL
I sent you a PM. I don't want to toss out too many hints as to my specific place of employment.
I sent you a PM. I don't want to toss out too many hints as to my specific place of employment.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
July 12th, 2013 at 9:30:50 PM
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If there are still 3 spots left, DAMN !!!!
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
July 12th, 2013 at 9:55:28 PM
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Quote: BuzzardIf there are still 3 spots left, DAMN !!!!
Sorry Buzz, but we are full.
July 13th, 2013 at 7:46:48 AM
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No, that's good news. I would really be pissed if there were any open spots.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
July 14th, 2013 at 9:09:35 PM
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Quote: PacmanSorry Buzz, but we are full.
I have a spot, and I am so excited ! A week away .... I am working hard in my spare time to have all my ducks (chips) in a row.
Making the cross country trip, so I want to make it worth the travel.
Learned Craps in 2013 .... Developed and have a PATENT on Craps "Back On Bet" side bet ...
Working on Craps game variations hope to have patents in 2018 - Second Chance Craps and Sub-Crap-tion ...
A completely new dice game idea is next - D.. Dice D......
July 20th, 2013 at 7:57:47 PM
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2 days remaining. Wish I could be there. DAMN !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
July 20th, 2013 at 9:15:29 PM
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Quote: Buzzard2 days remaining. Wish I could be there. DAMN !
We will give you a report on how it goes.
Learned Craps in 2013 .... Developed and have a PATENT on Craps "Back On Bet" side bet ...
Working on Craps game variations hope to have patents in 2018 - Second Chance Craps and Sub-Crap-tion ...
A completely new dice game idea is next - D.. Dice D......
July 20th, 2013 at 9:23:20 PM
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Did you make a table layout?Quote: NewToCrapsWe will give you a report on how it goes.
July 20th, 2013 at 9:28:49 PM
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Quote: UCivanDid you make a table layout?
No.
You describe the game description, with an image, or a picture, or a hand-drawn sheet as to how the betting spots look like.
Then Shufflemaster's graphic artist makes a 14 inch cardboard card of the player's position, that slides into the table's player position.
Quick, simple, and easy, - and it does the job.
Next best thing to doing your own layout.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
July 20th, 2013 at 10:08:07 PM
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Quote: NewToCrapsWe will give you a report on how it goes.
Do we get to know how your game works?
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July 20th, 2013 at 10:09:56 PM
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Dan, are you with Roger or SHFL? I recall you were with Galaxy Gaming and DEQ, SHFL's light weight competitors. I am confused. Or you were talking about your past experience and you believed Roger has an invariant protocol?Quote: PaigowdanNo.
You describe the game description, with an image, or a picture, or a hand-drawn sheet as to how the betting spots look like.
Then Shufflemaster's graphic artist makes a 14 inch cardboard card of the player's position, that slides into the table's player position.
Quick, simple, and easy, - and it does the job.
Next best thing to doing your own layout.
July 20th, 2013 at 10:54:57 PM
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Quote: UCivanDan, are you with Roger or SHFL? I recall you were with Galaxy Gaming and DEQ, SHFL's light weight competitors. I am confused. Or you were talking about your past experience and you believed Roger has an invariant protocol?
My past experience.
I was with DEQ then, and I'm now with Galaxy, but I had previously attended Roger's New game Showcase as an independent game designer (actually, I was with DEQ gaming at the time, the "third" small gaming company, a nano-cap feather-weight, actually), but I was looking to sign some games with a better, and larger act, than DEQ.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
July 21st, 2013 at 2:18:25 AM
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Quote: PaigowdanNo.
You describe the game description, with an image, or a picture, or a hand-drawn sheet as to how the betting spots look like.
Then Shufflemaster's graphic artist makes a 14 inch cardboard card of the player's position, that slides into the table's player position.
Quick, simple, and easy, - and it does the job.
Next best thing to doing your own layout.
Shocking, surely the game developer should have at least a layout to present. cardboard cut outs, please!!
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July 21st, 2013 at 3:09:03 AM
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No. SHFL prints "placemats." These are 17x11 sheets with green backgrounds and whatever betting circles and table printing the designer specifies. These are laid out on top of a BJ table and the demo is good to go.Quote: McDemonShocking, surely the game developer should have at least a layout to present. cardboard cut outs, please!!
At least that's what all the other presenters had. I brought all my own printed materials. All SHFL gave me was a roulette table. I'm not bitter at all. I prefer printing my own stuff to my exact specifications, but it was unexpected that SHFL did that for everyone else.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
July 21st, 2013 at 3:28:22 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearNo. SHFL prints "placemats." These are 17x11 sheets with green backgrounds and whatever betting circles and table printing the designer specifies. These are laid out on top of a BJ table and the demo is good to go.
At least that's what all the other presenters had. I brought all my own printed materials. All SHFL gave me was a roulette table. I'm not bitter at all. I prefer printing my own stuff to my exact specifications, but it was unexpected that SHFL did that for everyone else.
Fair enough just not my style
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July 21st, 2013 at 5:36:00 AM
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Trust me. If the game will ultimately be played on a BJ style curved table, then putting placemats on an actual BJ table, complete with chip tray and chips, is more then sufficient.Quote: McDemonFair enough just not my style
FWIW, last year I was provided a roulette iTable. I put my stuff on top and used the wheel and history display for my demo. I do believe that some of the evaluators were distracted by the iTable. Last year, the evaluators were industry people who may never have seen an iTable. This year, as I understand it, the evaluators are all SHFL employees, and I've refined my idea, so I expect better results.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
July 21st, 2013 at 6:15:51 PM
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If not better results, at a minimum, better feedback, I should think.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
July 21st, 2013 at 6:20:30 PM
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Quote: McDemonFair enough just not my style [using placemats]
That may be true, but what matters is if it is Shufflemaster's style.
Do keep in mind there has to be a fair and level playing field, with all games showing their game play merits and mechanisms at equal advantage. There can be no more reasons for sour grapes, as had happened and had hurt previous game demos. I love great production artwork as much as the next game designer, but for this game demo forum, even-Steven is the order of the day. (I'm not attending, just making a point.)
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
July 23rd, 2013 at 3:27:33 AM
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So...where is the report? Joking that it should be here by now, but would like to hear soon how the day went for everyone.
July 23rd, 2013 at 3:36:40 AM
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Very interested in a detailed follow-up as well; thanks for providing the opportunity to hear about it!
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
July 23rd, 2013 at 7:55:42 AM
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Did DJ decide to attend this year? if so, give him a chance to get back home....he normally provides excellent field reports.
July 23rd, 2013 at 9:11:56 AM
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It was an excellent event. I want to thank all those who presented games and the SHFL employees who served as evaluators.
July 23rd, 2013 at 10:01:37 AM
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I have been offer a position as REDUNDANCY OFFICER in HR at Bally's. Let me say that is I accept this offer, the evaluators have nothing to worry about. At least until DJ gives his feedback !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
