iampokerkid
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December 27th, 2018 at 6:00:38 PM permalink
Hi, I'm looking for somebody who's 7 star for the calendar year of 2019 to make me their "companion". It does not effect you whatsoever, nor is it monitored. As the companion, I do not get any of the benefits of being a 7 star. I simply want it because, as a poker player, it allows me to jump ahead on the lists, which makes it worth getting for me. I'm willing to compensate you for making me your 7 star companion.

If you're interested please send me a message to discuss it, thanks!
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December 27th, 2018 at 9:17:04 PM permalink
Quote: iampokerkid

Hi, I'm looking for somebody who's 7 star for the calendar year of 2019 to make me their "companion". It does not effect you whatsoever, nor is it monitored. As the companion, I do not get any of the benefits of being a 7 star. I simply want it because, as a poker player, it allows me to jump ahead on the lists, which makes it worth getting for me. I'm willing to compensate you for making me your 7 star companion.

If you're interested please send me a message to discuss it, thanks!

Does it trip the card out when used? Do they swipe it or anything or do you just flash it to them?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 27th, 2018 at 10:12:37 PM permalink
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Does it trip the card out when used? Do they swipe it or anything or do you just flash it to them?

Got to figure for 'some' things they absolutely swipe it. Any free nights/etc, and I'm pretty sure they swipe it at the poker room to put you on the list (which would trip you for the day).

...I thought you'd played poker before, Axel. Then again after playing with you I guess maybe you haven't. =) <3
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iampokerkid
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December 27th, 2018 at 10:18:51 PM permalink
Yeah not sure exactly what "trip" the card means, not too familiar with 7star/comps tbh.

Would def need to be swiped at the poker room to put me on the list, I would be getting a seperate "companion card" though, doesn't effect your card. Curious why this is being asked though, is there a drawback for the 7star card holder when I use mine that I'm unaware of? I know a lot of poker players who have gotten the companion cards from friends, as far as I know there is no issues.
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December 27th, 2018 at 10:36:35 PM permalink
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Yeah not sure exactly what "trip" the card means, not too familiar with 7star/comps tbh.

Would def need to be swiped at the poker room to put me on the list, I would be getting a seperate "companion card" though, doesn't effect your card. Curious why this is being asked though, is there a drawback for the 7star card holder when I use mine that I'm unaware of?



It depends on how they calculate the value of the game you play, whether you would hurt or help the 7Stars. Most likely hurt unless you're playing really high stakes.

Every time the card is swiped counts as a play day for calculation of average daily theoretical ( adt). Adt affects the values of the comps sent to the primary player. The companion card does affect the value of the primary card. The model is based on one large gambler who has another person with them who's not a big gambler (or they'd have their own tier card).

Adt formulas are proprietary, so we can mostly only speculate on how much the companion might dilute the primary card. But if the 7Star plays huge say, 8 days a year, that's one known cost to CET to entertain on a 7Stars level. If the companion is playing redchip poker 3 Days a week, independent of the 7Star, that's small play 156 days a year while using 7Star privileges, and the adt (freeplay, cage cash, big offers) on the main account will crash.

Maybe you're playing big enough that it would actually help the 7Star. Hard to say, but unlikely. I would guess (and it really is a guess) frequent use of the companion card could cost the 7Star 30k-50k in lost comps overy a year.

I could be wrong. I've been Diamond for 16 straight years now, but never 7Star. I've seen some of their offers, though, and some get 1k+ /week in offers that could get negated.
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December 27th, 2018 at 10:43:59 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Got to figure for 'some' things they absolutely swipe it. Any free nights/etc, and I'm pretty sure they swipe it at the poker room to put you on the list (which would trip you for the day).

...I thought you'd played poker before, Axel. Then again after playing with you I guess maybe you haven't. =) <3

I would never use a card when paying poker, unless I absolutely had to for a promotion.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 27th, 2018 at 10:52:20 PM permalink
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It depends on how they calculate the value of the game you play, whether you would hurt or help the 7Stars. Most likely hurt unless you're playing really high stakes.

Every time the card is swiped counts as a play day for calculation of average daily theoretical ( adt). Adt affects the values of the comps sent to the primary player. The companion card does affect the value of the primary card. The model is based on one large gambler who has another person with them who's not a big gambler (or they'd have their own tier card).

Adt formulas are proprietary, so we can mostly only speculate on how much the companion might dilute the primary card. But if the 7Star plays huge say, 8 days a year, that's one known cost to CET to entertain on a 7Stars level. If the companion is playing redchip poker 3 Days a week, independent of the 7Star, that's small play 156 days a year while using 7Star privileges, and the adt (freeplay, cage cash, big offers) on the main account will crash.

Maybe you're playing big enough that it would actually help the 7Star. Hard to say, but unlikely. I would guess (and it really is a guess) frequent use of the companion card could cost the 7Star 30k-50k in lost comps overy a year.

I could be wrong. I've been Diamond for 16 straight years now, but never 7Star. I've seen some of their offers, though, and some get 1k+ /week in offers that could get negated.



Ahh, great explanation.

To answer your question: Yes, I play high stakes poker, and I would only be using it for when I travel to a few tournaments throughout the year, plus the WSOP in the summer. That's exactly why I need it -- for high stakes poker, getting into a specific game (and being #1 on the list) saves a lot of time, especially when I wake up really late. I would be playing mostly 10/25 and 25/50, but also 5/5 if neither of those are running.

So I'd assume that my play would be slightly +EV or breakevenish for the card holder.
Would appreciate your input on this, otherwise your previous post will certainly scare off anybody who was considering it lol.
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December 27th, 2018 at 10:55:53 PM permalink
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It depends on how they calculate the value of the game you play, whether you would hurt or help the 7Stars. Most likely hurt unless you're playing really high stakes.

Every time the card is swiped counts as a play day for calculation of average daily theoretical ( adt). Adt affects the values of the comps sent to the primary player. The companion card does affect the value of the primary card. The model is based on one large gambler who has another person with them who's not a big gambler (or they'd have their own tier card).

Adt formulas are proprietary, so we can mostly only speculate on how much the companion might dilute the primary card. But if the 7Star plays huge say, 8 days a year, that's one known cost to CET to entertain on a 7Stars level. If the companion is playing redchip poker 3 Days a week, independent of the 7Star, that's small play 156 days a year while using 7Star privileges, and the adt (freeplay, cage cash, big offers) on the main account will crash.

Maybe you're playing big enough that it would actually help the 7Star. Hard to say, but unlikely. I would guess (and it really is a guess) frequent use of the companion card could cost the 7Star 30k-50k in lost comps overy a year.

I could be wrong. I've been Diamond for 16 straight years now, but never 7Star. I've seen some of their offers, though, and some get 1k+ /week in offers that could get negated.

Next thing you know they are using it in the diamond lounge or someone is putting it in a penny slot. (If I ever find Romes card I will play 1 coin on a penny slot once per day for a week)

I have heard conflicting reports on companion cards. Personally, I wouldn't want to take any chances unless the compensation was significant. I do believe companion cards can even be used to your benefit if you want to book some rooms and don't plan on playing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 27th, 2018 at 10:59:54 PM permalink
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Next thing you know they are using it in the diamond lounge or someone is putting it in a penny slot. (If I ever find Romes card I will play 1 coin on a penny slot once per day for a week)

I have heard conflicting reports on companion cards. Personally, I wouldn't want to take any chances unless the compensation was significant. I do believe companion cards can even be used to your benefit if you want to book some rooms and don't plan on playing.



Damn, yall are set on ensuring nobody accepts my offer lmao.
Now that I know this, I would absolutely limit my use of the card and not use the diamond lounge, nor would I ever play penny slots (or slots of any kind).

I'd ask the best strategies of getting a 7s card myself, but i don't live near a ceasars property anywho so I wouldn't be able to use the comps. like I said, I'd only be using it a few times a year for jumping the list in high stakes poker games
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December 27th, 2018 at 11:06:30 PM permalink
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Ahh, great explanation.

To answer your question: Yes, I play high stakes poker, and I would only be using it for when I travel to a few tournaments throughout the year, plus the WSOP in the summer. That's exactly why I need it -- for high stakes poker, getting into a specific game (and being #1 on the list) saves a lot of time, especially when I wake up really late. I would be playing mostly 10/25 and 25/50, but also 5/5 if neither of those are running.

So I'd assume that my play would be slightly +EV or breakevenish for the card holder.
Would appreciate your input on this, otherwise your previous post will certainly scare off anybody who was considering it lol.



If you're playing on that level, and could project a schedule you might be using the card for the next year, I think there are at least a couple people here who might take a chance on you. Maybe even a piece of your action if you're selling, you never know. I was picturing more a 1/2 or 1/3 player in weekly games. You're playing waaayyy above that.

Wasn't really looking to scare people off. More to explain why people might hesitate. I would encourage you to take that negotiation to Private Messaging, though. Probably most don't want to have the conversation in public.
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