Swifty
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May 31st, 2016 at 2:47:52 PM permalink
Hello forum.
I am arriving in Vegas 6/1 and am looking for someone who is interested in making me their companion 7 star. I have been 7sC past two years but the individual who I usually do business with did not make 7 star this past year;therefor I expired 4/1. I would be happy to make a donation or something along those lines. Open for negotiation. It would definitely be more valuable ASAP. This has to happen in Vegas preferably this week. Thanks.
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May 31st, 2016 at 2:51:50 PM permalink
What perks does the companian get worth paying for?
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May 31st, 2016 at 2:57:56 PM permalink
How much money would you pay?
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May 31st, 2016 at 3:50:14 PM permalink
Interesting. I've always wondered why we didn't see more of these type requests on here. It's kind of spammy, but I want to see how it plays out, so I'm leaving it up for now. (Also an opportunity for a member to make money as opposed to this guy trying to take ours.)

Anybody gets more info from the OP, I'd encourage posting it. Or if somebody finds out or knows it's a con, please speak up. Thanks.
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May 31st, 2016 at 4:24:24 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

What perks does the companian get worth paying for?


I am a poker player and line skipping has some value.

Quote: RS

How much money would you pay?


I am not sure if I should discuss this in the open. This is not a new concept at least not where I am from, the Midwest, so there are going rates.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Interesting. I've always wondered why we didn't see more of these type requests on here. It's kind of spammy, but I want to see how it plays out, so I'm leaving it up for now. (Also an opportunity for a member to make money as opposed to this guy trying to take ours.)

Anybody gets more info from the OP, I'd encourage posting it. Or if somebody finds out or knows it's a con, please speak up. Thanks.



Thanks for leaving it up. I will give a member $$$ as a donation that they can do as they wish. (Not sure the terms of service on selling them.) I have done research and see nothing that prohibits selling them but still try to stay away from breaking any rules I am unaware of.
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May 31st, 2016 at 4:26:16 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Interesting. I've always wondered why we didn't see more of these type requests on here. It's kind of spammy, but I want to see how it plays out, so I'm leaving it up for now. (Also an opportunity for a member to make money as opposed to this guy trying to take ours.)

Anybody gets more info from the OP, I'd encourage posting it. Or if somebody finds out or knows it's a con, please speak up. Thanks.

Exactly what are you looking for in a 7Star companion? You're 7 Star and need a companion? You a discarded peanut shell looking for your other half? Sorry, can you repeat the question? Possibly in terms I have some remote chance of understanding exactly what you said? Just 2F
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May 31st, 2016 at 4:27:27 PM permalink
Also as a side not. To my knowledge it takes no perks away from 7 star card holder and is not even monitored. We still have separate total rewards numbers and offers.
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May 31st, 2016 at 4:35:34 PM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

Exactly what are you looking for in a 7Star companion? You're 7 Star and need a companion? You a discarded peanut shell looking for your other half? Sorry, can you repeat the question? Possibly in terms I have some remote chance of understanding exactly what you said? Just 2F



2f always a day late and dollar short or something like that.

Op is looking for another 7star member to let him be their companion. In case anyone doesn't know a 7star member can give their level to another member but they still have their own account.
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May 31st, 2016 at 4:38:15 PM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

Exactly what are you looking for in a 7Star companion? You're 7 Star and need a companion? You a discarded peanut shell looking for your other half? Sorry, can you repeat the question? Possibly in terms I have some remote chance of understanding exactly what you said? Just 2F



7 stars is the highest tier loyalty program at nearly all Caesars Entertainment locations. It might just be a coincidence but I am guessing this guy is probably in town for the World Series of Poker. I don't play myself but I heard on the Gambling With an Edge podcast recently that lines can be crazy long there, so the possibility of even just being able to cut some lines has pretty good value.
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May 31st, 2016 at 4:41:32 PM permalink
https://www.totalrewards.com/sevenstars/rules
From cet website, here is the companion info.



COMPANION CARD

The Seven Stars Companion Card entitles its bearer to all Seven Stars priority service benefits, including Diamond/Seven Stars lounge access. Lounge access is limited to companion only, no guests. Lounge access may be restricted due to special events, private parties or during peak periods; during these periods, companions may be required to be accompanied by a Diamond or Seven Stars member. Other restrictions, fees and limits may apply and vary by property.
The Companion must adhere to all Total Rewards rules and regulations.
Card will be issued by a host or Total Rewards representative at any time during the year.
Both the Seven Stars member and the companion must be present in order to obtain a Companion Card.
Companion must be 21 years of age or older.
Card bearer’s photo should appear on the back of the card. In states requiring signature strips, a signature strip will be placed on the back of the Card.
Each Seven Stars member can only elect one Companion per benefit year and cannot change the companion during that time for any reason.
An individual can only hold one Companion Card. For example, once a member reaches Seven Stars status, the Diamond Companion Card will be forfeited for a Seven Stars Companion Card.
Lost or stolen Cards may be replaced, but only in the name of the original Card bearer.
Associated accounts separated in the state of Nevada and California will both be eligible for a Seven Stars Companion Card if both members qualify for Seven Stars status. If both do not qualify, then only the primary Seven Stars cardholder will be granted a Companion Card.
Employees of Caesars Enterprise Services, LLC, its subsidiaries or affiliates or entities managed by any of such entities, are not permitted to hold Companion Cards.
Caesars Enterprise Services, LLC reserves all rights to cancel or modify the Seven Stars Companion Card program at any time with no notice and can reclaim or cancel individual Companion Cards at its discretion. Companion Cards will be confiscated if the Seven Stars member loses his/her Seven Stars status.
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May 31st, 2016 at 4:44:29 PM permalink
Quote: DiscreteMaths2

7 stars is the highest tier loyalty program at nearly all Caesars Entertainment locations. It might just be a coincidence but I am guessing this guy is probably in town for the World Series of Poker. I don't play myself but I heard on the Gambling With an Edge podcast recently that lines can be crazy long there, so the possibility of even just being able to cut some lines has pretty good value.

Disctrete and GWAE. I aam very familiar with the various levels of 7 Stars for CET Total Rewards. I just didn't understand the damn question. I think I still don't. Might be me, I'm slow.... I asked the OP and I get chicken nuggets falling from the the sky. Jhit happens;-)
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May 31st, 2016 at 4:52:56 PM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

Disctrete and GWAE. I aam very familiar with the various levels of 7 Stars for CET Total Rewards. I just didn't understand the damn question. I think I still don't. Might be me, I'm slow.... I asked the OP and I get chicken nuggets falling from the the sky. Jhit happens;-)



I didn't quite understand your question. I am not looking for a "companion" in the pal form. I am looking to aquire companion status. Basically similar but different to acquiring diamond status.

And yes it is no coincidence WSOP starts this week. Good guess.
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May 31st, 2016 at 4:53:59 PM permalink
Pm me- don't want to discuss in public but if the terms are right I can make it happen
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May 31st, 2016 at 4:54:11 PM permalink
Quote: Swifty

I didn't quite understand your question. I am not looking for a "companion" in the pal form. I am looking to aquire companion status. Basically similar but different to acquiring diamond status.



Swifty, don't worry. It took most of us 2 years to figure out what 2f says and sometimes we still get it wrong.
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May 31st, 2016 at 5:08:33 PM permalink
To be fair to 2f , I was wondering the same thing . He just had the guts to ask ! The original post was a tad sketchy tbh . I get it now
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May 31st, 2016 at 7:24:07 PM permalink
Quote: Swifty

I didn't quite understand your question. I am not looking for a "companion" in the pal form. I am looking to aquire companion status. Basically similar but different to acquiring diamond status.

And yes it is no coincidence WSOP starts this week. Good guess.

Well then, I could offer you Diamond second aspiration level 'buddy' status if such a thing even exists ;-) My best buddy has no use for it, she thinks I might be a bit teched in the head, so to speak, when it comes to this Gamblin' stuff. I have to be very, extra very, careful as to when and where I put my foot down.

It's a balancing act. If it was a visual thing, Cirque De Soleil would have already shown it to you ;-)

Just 2F
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June 1st, 2016 at 6:04:58 AM permalink
Quote: RS

How much money would you pay?


I think 300 is a fair price.
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June 1st, 2016 at 6:06:58 AM permalink
What are you using it for, that would let me know if that is worth it.... I think some others would like to know as well
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June 1st, 2016 at 6:23:14 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

What are you using it for, that would let me know if that is worth it.... I think some others would like to know as well



1. My primary use for it is to skip poker waiting lists. (the lists for an actual poker game.)
2. To skip lines for poker tournament registration.
3. Skip cab lines at the rio.
4. Occasionally attend to lounges.
5. Free red bulls and snacks; trail mix and that kind of stuff in come of the casinos I attend here in the Midwest.

That's about all I have ever used it for. But basically only want it for #1 the rest just comes with it.

I am thinking very seriously about going for 7 star myself. If I could do it with a theo of -4k it would probably pay for itself on money saved on hotel rooms. The 7sC provides no discount on rooms but I am never sure how much I will be traveling over the next year either. And a big concern is basically doing DIAD ten times, but I have to do it over ten different days. Not ideal, but I read on here about that 25 VP machine at Caesars that rewards 10/1 TC. That would be doable as it would only take an hour each day. I am open to suggestions or input.

Important note. The poker list skipping doesn't work for diamond.
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June 1st, 2016 at 7:37:51 AM permalink
Is there a sex restriction enforced by the casino? Like if the original member is male, then the companion must be female?

I usually don't sign in people I don't know into VIP lounges. If the stranger breaks some casino rule, I might get into trouble.
But I do ask other people to sign me in. In return I let them to hand in their member card while I play slots ...
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June 1st, 2016 at 7:42:41 AM permalink
Quote: supergrass

Is there a sex restriction enforced by the casino? Like if the original member is male, then the companion must be female?



I can't imagine there would be. I'm sure there are plenty of gay 7 Stars. Also there are straight 7 Stars who might simply want a same-gender friend as their companion.

I am also excited I correctly guessed the reason for the OP's request. :)
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June 1st, 2016 at 8:35:13 AM permalink
There is no sex restriction. They encourage you to sign on whoever you usually attend the casino with.
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June 1st, 2016 at 10:58:06 AM permalink
Quote: Swifty

There is no sex restriction.
<Snip>

Exactly which joint are you referring to? You mean like everything's OK, even right there on the tables? Are Pics/video still prohibited ;-?
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June 9th, 2016 at 6:45:32 PM permalink
In case anyone was wanting an update. My expired card has sufficed for most uses.
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June 9th, 2016 at 7:03:28 PM permalink
Some may be interested, most haven't lost any sleep. Good luck however
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October 5th, 2016 at 7:28:28 PM permalink
hi everybody,
i am business owner and love poker. because of my tight scedule mi time is very limited. so when i come to poker room i don't have time to wait in the line to get to the table. Seven star companion card would really help me here. So maybe somebody would like to make me a seven star companion card for a donation. like i mentioned earlier i need it only to show it in poker room to get faster to the table. period. no lounges, no restaurants, no food, no hotels, no other benefits. i am a maried 37 years old businessman, so no bs from me.
if anybody is interested or you know who is interested let me know.
thanks
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October 5th, 2016 at 9:39:53 PM permalink
Quote: jonchis

hi everybody,
i am business owner and love poker. because of my tight scedule mi time is very limited. so when i come to poker room i don't have time to wait in the line to get to the table. Seven star companion card would really help me here. So maybe somebody would like to make me a seven star companion card for a donation. like i mentioned earlier i need it only to show it in poker room to get faster to the table. period. no lounges, no restaurants, no food, no hotels, no other benefits. i am a maried 37 years old businessman, so no bs from me.
if anybody is interested or you know who is interested let me know.
thanks

Call in advance and put your name on the list. It's doubtful anyone is going to add you as a companion. There's no benefits to them just risk.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 5th, 2016 at 10:55:22 PM permalink
come to niagara falls......I'll set you up with a 7 tooth companion.
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October 6th, 2016 at 4:27:44 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Call in advance and put your name on the list. It's doubtful anyone is going to add you as a companion. There's no benefits to them just risk.



i am not asking for free, for a donation ( 1000 or so). and what risk for them?
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October 6th, 2016 at 9:32:35 AM permalink
Quote: jonchis

i am not asking for free, for a donation ( 1000 or so). and what risk for them?



Better off selling your methods to the Poker world on how to make so much money your willing to pay for a spot at a table.
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October 6th, 2016 at 10:21:39 AM permalink
He is obviously a whale boz
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October 6th, 2016 at 1:24:02 PM permalink
To be fair I know a handful of people that make $80+/hr in $1-2-5 PLO and paying that price would easily be worth it to them. They lose money just sitting around and for us it's a 1hr 45min drive to nearest CET property. The ones that go there a few times a month went ahead and did DIAD only for line skipping.
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October 6th, 2016 at 1:48:15 PM permalink
Quote: BTLWI

To be fair I know a handful of people that make $80+/hr in $1-2-5 PLO and paying that price would easily be worth it to them. They lose money just sitting around and for us it's a 1hr 45min drive to nearest CET property. The ones that go there a few times a month went ahead and did DIAD only for line skipping.



Diamond also skips poker lines?

Op if that's the case then just get the founders card.
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October 6th, 2016 at 1:56:47 PM permalink
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Diamond also skips poker lines?

Op if that's the case then just get the founders card.


unfortunately NO.
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October 6th, 2016 at 1:59:40 PM permalink
Quote: jonchis

unfortunately NO.

What casino(s) will you be using it at.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 6th, 2016 at 2:08:41 PM permalink
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What casino(s) will you be using it at.


harrah's and horseshoe in illinois
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October 6th, 2016 at 3:58:39 PM permalink
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harrah's and horseshoe in illinois

1K or so? Sounds tempting for some. However this sounds suspicious. I would treat my 7S card like a credit card. Rooms can be obtained without a credit card or deposit at some locations with it. Someone could possibly use it in the gift shop.

I'm not sure if they logg or swipe it, but if so, it will trip someone out and possible affect someone asking for something in the future. Unless they just quickly look at your card and ID at the poker room?

As a business owner and someone willing to pay 1k. I would think you would/could just earn one yourself and get all the benefits yourself.

Does anyone know if swifty(the original OP) was ever successful in getting one?

I'm certain I could find someone if I knew everything was actually legitimate but I didn't know all the possible consequences.
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October 6th, 2016 at 4:36:38 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

1K or so? Sounds tempting for some. However this sounds suspicious. I would treat my 7S card like a credit card. Rooms can be obtained without a credit card or deposit at some locations with it. Someone could possibly use it in the gift shop.

I'm not sure if they logg or swipe it, but if so, it will trip someone out and possible affect someone asking for something in the future. Unless they just quickly look at your card and ID at the poker room?

As a business owner and someone willing to pay 1k. I would think you would/could just earn one yourself and get all the benefits yourself.

Does anyone know if swifty(the original OP) was ever successful in getting one?

I'm certain I could find someone if I knew everything was actually legitimate but I didn't know all the possible consequences.


like i mentioned my time is limited, due to the nature of my business i have to be in my place instead of spending days in casino trying to earn points. i dont play tournaments, don't go to wsop or smth like that. i dont know how to play baccara or craps. all i play is poker couple hours after work. so i dont have time to wait to get to the table. in my 10 years poker history i only played once outside illinois ( in vegas with family).
i totaly understand and respect your suspiciouness because i think i would feel the same i i had 7 star card. But i also taking the risk donating someone 1k and finding out a week later that my card is not active any more.
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October 6th, 2016 at 7:56:43 PM permalink
Quote: jonchis

unfortunately NO.



I just asked on 2+2 after you posted this. The answer is still yes, diamonds go to top. Same as it's been for years. At least at Horseshoe Hammond.
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October 6th, 2016 at 8:22:46 PM permalink
Quote: BTLWI

I just asked on 2+2 after you posted this. The answer is still yes, diamonds go to top. Same as it's been for years. At least at Horseshoe Hammond.


but not at Harrah's Joliet. And if the table is 9 handed, they make 10 handed for Seven star player.
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October 7th, 2016 at 4:26:38 AM permalink
Can't you just call ahead? I always call my local on my drive in to get on the list. Normally I wait no more than 10 minutes once I arrive.
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October 7th, 2016 at 4:32:34 AM permalink
My guess is he may also want the table image - I can't figure out why he wants it- diamond at every casino I go to get me to top of list
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October 7th, 2016 at 5:14:34 AM permalink
here is an example. i am not playing 1-2 no holdem, i am not playing 2-5 no holdem. i am playing PLO. where i usually play it is only 1 table going. i call an hour ahead and when i show up in the poker room i am first on the list. table is full. so i wait. here comes seven star player and they make table 10 handed for him and i am still first on the list. an hour later somebody leaves and the table back to 9 handed and here shows another 7 star player and sits at the table. so after 2 hours of waiting am leaving room not playing and beeing 1 on the list.
i know that at least 5 players became 7 star in the last couple months the way i want to become. they found a people that made them companions for donations. and only to get to the table faster.
so i totally don't care about the image of having 7 Star card.
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October 7th, 2016 at 5:37:56 AM permalink
Gotcha- ok that makes more sense
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October 7th, 2016 at 12:02:25 PM permalink
Is this a good time of year to do this? Does it get you 7SC until 2018? Also for the price you're paying for 2 years you might seriously look into getting 7* for yourself through Video Poker. I think if you did it in Early 2017 it would be good to the start of 2019?
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October 7th, 2016 at 1:00:55 PM permalink
Quote: BTLWI

Is this a good time of year to do this? Does it get you 7SC until 2018? Also for the price you're paying for 2 years you might seriously look into getting 7* for yourself through Video Poker. I think if you did it in Early 2017 it would be good to the start of 2019?[/q
abut time when to do it i will have to discuss with the person which will decide to help me. of course i am not willing to get a card which will expire in two months.
i checked video poker options but you basically have to sacrifice 20 days playing 10 hour a day to accumulate 150k points. and it is on certain machines. so i dont have that time.

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October 7th, 2016 at 4:08:38 PM permalink
u can do it sooner than 20days.
7 star = 10days at vp (5k tc + 10k bonus per day => $50k coin-in/day)

$1 dstp (9/5 JoB) 10 play (99% return)
its $70 spin
$50k / 70 = 715 hands = 1hr x 10days!
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October 7th, 2016 at 4:37:38 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

u can do it sooner than 20days.
7 star = 10days at vp (5k tc + 10k bonus per day => $50k coin-in/day)

$1 dstp (9/5 JoB) 10 play (99% return)
its $70 spin
$50k / 70 = 715 hands = 1hr x 10days!


i never touched slot machines or video poker. and assume it needs some skills other than PLO cash game. So i am not considering that option.
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October 7th, 2016 at 7:19:11 PM permalink
Quote: jonchis

i never touched slot machines or video poker. and assume it needs some skills other than PLO cash game. So i am not considering that option.

Its(VP) is way easier than PLO. Especially since you can print out a strategy and use it. Since you play poker 70% of the hands should be obvious.Hands like 3 of a kind vs a 3 card st8 flush shouod be very obvious to anyone l, especially a pokernel player. LET'S NOT FORGET THE VALUE IN GETTING A 7S card for yourself. Lounges, GOOD Free play, rooms, buffets, food, cruise, shows, invites, drawings, gifts (Including desirable coach brand stuff) Xmas shopping, and many things I didn't mention like discretionary host comps.

So take the time you're waiting for your poker games . and achieve 7Scard yourself. Then you can sell your companion status to someone else for 1k.
Is not like poker will end anytime soon or there is a big rush.

If its good enough to pay 1k for then it's good enough to play for it yourself.

How can you beat it?

There's another option.... You can pay someone to play and achieve 7 star for you. Give them their theoretical loss plus pay for their time. You will do wel in that situation since you wil know the exact cost and time it will take and get ALL the benefits.

There's absolutely no legitimate reason not to if all what you are saying is legit.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
jonchis
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October 8th, 2016 at 6:53:46 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Its(VP) is way easier than PLO. Especially since you can print out a strategy and use it. Since you play poker 70% of the hands should be obvious.Hands like 3 of a kind vs a 3 card st8 flush shouod be very obvious to anyone l, especially a pokernel player. LET'S NOT FORGET THE VALUE IN GETTING A 7S card for yourself. Lounges, GOOD Free play, rooms, buffets, food, cruise, shows, invites, drawings, gifts (Including desirable coach brand stuff) Xmas shopping, and many things I didn't mention like discretionary host comps.

So take the time you're waiting for your poker games . and achieve 7Scard yourself. Then you can sell your companion status to someone else for 1k.
Is not like poker will end anytime soon or there is a big rush.

If its good enough to pay 1k for then it's good enough to play for it yourself.

How can you beat it?

There's another option.... You can pay someone to play and achieve 7 star for you. Give them their theoretical loss plus pay for their time. You will do wel in that situation since you wil know the exact cost and time it will take and get ALL the benefits.

There's absolutely no legitimate reason not to if all what you are saying is legit.



gambling or playing poker is not my lifestyle. i have more interesting things to do in my life with my family with my kids. so i totally dont care about other 7S benefits ( louges, hotels, drawings etc.). i dont even play on weekends.
you guys just try to think overcomplicated. All i need this card is to play 2-3 hours PLO at the table after work. To PLAY but not to sit and watch other people playing.
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