April 29th, 2022 at 1:27:27 PM
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Apologies if this has been asked. I searched as best as I could.
I’m new here, thanks for everyone’s expertise and input. I can’t yet post links to a photo, but there’s this “Broadway” bar game locally that offers:
Jacks or Better with Joker, paying:
As far as I know, wild royal pays same as a natural. Scaling up with coins doesn’t seem to add any advantage (I.e. royal is still 100x bet).
Is it worth it, is it a scam, cheating, or a sucker magnet? I tried looking on wizard of odds but can’t find a pay table.
I can’t remember where, but I entered this manually and got a return of something like 1.04, but I could not add “5ok” since I could only choose either Jacks or Better OR Joker, but not both.
Any input, advice, warnings, or admonitions are welcome!
I’m new here, thanks for everyone’s expertise and input. I can’t yet post links to a photo, but there’s this “Broadway” bar game locally that offers:
Jacks or Better with Joker, paying:
Hand | Payout |
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Royal Flush | 100 |
str flush | 50 |
5ok | 50 |
4ok | 25 |
FH | 10 |
FL | 8 |
STR | 5 |
3ok | 3 |
2p | 2 |
jacks or better | 1 |
As far as I know, wild royal pays same as a natural. Scaling up with coins doesn’t seem to add any advantage (I.e. royal is still 100x bet).
Is it worth it, is it a scam, cheating, or a sucker magnet? I tried looking on wizard of odds but can’t find a pay table.
I can’t remember where, but I entered this manually and got a return of something like 1.04, but I could not add “5ok” since I could only choose either Jacks or Better OR Joker, but not both.
Any input, advice, warnings, or admonitions are welcome!
April 29th, 2022 at 2:20:13 PM
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Welcome to the forum!
When I put this payout table into a Joker wild, Kings or better VP analyzer, it says that the return is about 1.40; but I question whether the analyzer is working correctly.
I have no comment about whether this game is a scam. Maybe others can comment.
When I put this payout table into a Joker wild, Kings or better VP analyzer, it says that the return is about 1.40; but I question whether the analyzer is working correctly.
I have no comment about whether this game is a scam. Maybe others can comment.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
April 29th, 2022 at 2:21:55 PM
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I also get 104% when entering this into a paytable analyzer (JoB).
My instinct says "For amusement only".
It would not surprise me to learn it is an electronic pulltab game.
My instinct says "For amusement only".
It would not surprise me to learn it is an electronic pulltab game.
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 29th, 2022 at 2:46:02 PM
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Thanks - does that include entering a joker and 5ok? My guess is the crappy payout on the royal and 5ok keep the return somewhat sane.
April 29th, 2022 at 3:00:40 PM
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Broadway Poker games do not use paytables as a way to determine results. You( the owner) can set the payouts to be between 60% and 85% or numbers very similar. I don't know how it works exactly, but I leased several for a few years and they are very profitable.
I don't think anyone can beat these long term.
I don't think anyone can beat these long term.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
April 29th, 2022 at 3:26:30 PM
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Quote: SisboombahThanks - does that include entering a joker and 5ok? My guess is the crappy payout on the royal and 5ok keep the return somewhat sane.
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No 5ok, no joker. 100 for 1 royal.
It looks good because the FH and Straight are rather higher than typical, but I think the actual frequencies of the hands you get are irregular.
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 29th, 2022 at 5:10:10 PM
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On most Broadway machines, you can double up on any hand before the draw, including a dealt royal flush.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
April 29th, 2022 at 7:53:50 PM
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This is the image of the machine that Sisboombah wanted to post in his opening post:
You can view the paytable directly by displaying the image in other software (on another tab) and zooming in.
Or use this address:
https://i.postimg.cc/5Q12gxTS/1-F9-ABD8-D-4-C64-44-DA-A3-E5-93921093-FEA3.jpg
You can view the paytable directly by displaying the image in other software (on another tab) and zooming in.
Or use this address:
https://i.postimg.cc/5Q12gxTS/1-F9-ABD8-D-4-C64-44-DA-A3-E5-93921093-FEA3.jpg
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.