$500 to win $400,000
Suppose I had $500 to make ONE single bet at video poker with the BEST chance of winning $400,000 on that single play.
First question: what game would I play?
Second question: what format would I play?
The format could range from single line to any of the multi line games.
REGARDING THE GAME
My thought is TDB because in addition to getting a $400,000 royal on a single line $500 bet there's also quad aces with a kicker for $400k.
In all, there are four royals plus three AAAAK to hit. (Or, are there 12 AAAAK hands?)
REGARDING THE FORMAT
This is where I have a lack of knowledge.
If I were to play a 100 line game at $1 per coin, I would have to be dealt the royal or the AAAAK hands.
But if I played a single line game I could draw to get a royal or the AAAAK hand.
Again my goal is to play $500 once for the best shot at $400k, and secondary payouts don't matter.
Any help please?
Quote: AlanMendelsonI hope this is the correct place to post this because it's a question.
Suppose I had $500 to make ONE single bet at video poker with the BEST chance of winning $400,000 on that single play.
First question: what game would I play?
Second question: what format would I play?
The format could range from single line to any of the multi line games.
REGARDING THE GAME
My thought is TDB because in addition to getting a $400,000 royal on a single line $500 bet there's also quad aces with a kicker for $400k.
In all, there are four royals plus three AAAAK to hit. (Or, are there 12 AAAAK hands?)
REGARDING THE FORMAT
This is where I have a lack of knowledge.
If I were to play a 100 line game at $1 per coin, I would have to be dealt the royal or the AAAAK hands.
But if I played a single line game I could draw to get a royal or the AAAAK hand.
Again my goal is to play $500 once for the best shot at $400k, and secondary payouts don't matter.
Any help please?
If you are interested, there is another thread already going on what happens if you play just to maximize your chance of getting a royal. Just to be clear, your question implies if you don't win the $400,000 all other results are just considered a loss? So if you are dealt four 9's and an ace, you will toss the 9's and keep the ace?
By the way, why does this interest you?
Quote: SOOPOOIf you are interested, there is another thread already going on what happens if you play just to maximize your chance of getting a royal. Just to be clear, your question implies if you don't win the $400,000 all other results are just considered a loss? So if you are dealt four 9's and an ace, you will toss the 9's and keep the ace?
By the way, why does this interest you?
I saw the the thread about maximizing royals. My question is substantially different.
The question that I'm asking came up in a discussion about how to play $500 of free play. One comment led to another and then this question.
Yes, as I posted, secondary returns are not an issue.
To win $400k you have
4 aces + 4 different 2s = 4
4 aces + 4 different 3s= 4
4 aces + 4 different 4s =4
4 different royals = 4
You have 16 possible combinations to win $400k
Obviously TDB is the only game to play in this nonsense scenario where all other payouts are worthless. If you get dealt 3333A do you toss the $200,000 3s hoping to draw 4 cards to make a $400,000 hand?
It doesn't matter if you play 1 line, 10 lines or 1million lines the probability of winning $400k is still the same. I'm too tired to actually do the math right now but my gut tells me it's around a 1 in 16000 chance.
Quote: WTflushAAAAK would win $80,000 on standard a $100 credit TDB video poker game (5 credits for a $500 bet)
To win $400k you have
4 aces + 4 different 2s = 4
4 aces + 4 different 3s= 4
4 aces + 4 different 4s =4
4 different royals = 4
You have 16 possible combinations to win $400k
Obviously TDB is the only game to play in this nonsense scenario where all other payouts are worthless. If you get dealt 3333A do you toss the $200,000 3s hoping to draw 4 cards to make a $400,000 hand?
It doesn't matter if you play 1 line, 10 lines or 1million lines the probability of winning $400k is still the same. I'm too tired to actually do the math right now but my gut tells me it's around a 1 in 16000 chance.
I believe he was using AAAAK to denote Aces with a Kicker, not a king.
The question is simply which game and format gives you the best chance to turn $500 into $400k in one bet?
Why is it that on Internet forums everything has to get twisted?
Next someone is going to ask me if this discussion was with the guy who threw 18 yos in a row.
Hit any four of a kind on Triple Double and I think you would only have to double up four times.
Quote: DRichI think your odds would be best playing a machine with the double up option. If you get any win just keep doubling up until you get to your target. Obviously that requires the machine to be set up for Double Up and allowing you to continue until your target.
Hit any four of a kind on Triple Double and I think you would only have to double up four times.
Many of the quads on TDB pay the same as DDB but it's an interesting idea. Thanks.
Quote: AlanMendelsonTossing 3333A is not a question.
The question is simply which game and format gives you the best chance to turn $500 into $400k in one bet?
Why is it that on Internet forums everything has to get twisted?
Next someone is going to ask me if this discussion was with the guy who threw 18 yos in a row.
Maybe it would help if you gave more detail? Like, why $400k. If 3333A gives $200k, we'd all take the $200k. So it's hard to understand why you would throw away that money and chase an incredible long-shot 4 card draw to try to get $400k. BY FAR the best way to turn $500 in free play into $400k, given that you've already received a $200k hand, is to take that money and keep playing...
Quote: rdw4potusMaybe it would help if you gave more detail? Like, why $400k. If 3333A gives $200k, we'd all take the $200k. So it's hard to understand why you would throw away that money and chase an incredible long-shot 4 card draw to try to get $400k. BY FAR the best way to turn $500 in free play into $400k, given that you've already received a $200k hand, is to take that money and keep playing...
Gosh that's a really good observation and answer if that were the question.
Quote: AlanMendelsonGosh that's a really good observation and answer if that were the question.
Ask an obscure and confusing question .... check
Mock people who ask for clarification .... check
Quote: rdw4potusMaybe it would help if you gave more detail? Like, why $400k. If 3333A gives $200k, we'd all take the $200k. So it's hard to understand why you would throw away that money and chase an incredible long-shot 4 card draw to try to get $400k. BY FAR the best way to turn $500 in free play into $400k, given that you've already received a $200k hand, is to take that money and keep playing...
Rob Singer has an excellent used RV for sale at $399K. I'm sure it's a coincidence.
Quote: billryanRob Singer has an excellent used RV for sale at $399K. I'm sure it's a coincidence.
LOL. But that'd call for a random walk for sure. None of this one-shot nonsense:-)
Quote: billryanRob Singer has an excellent used RV for sale at $399K. I'm sure it's a coincidence.
Well that is a coincidence.
What we were discussing was hitting a $400,000 royal with $500 on a single line machine
We knew the chance was about 1/42000 overall and the chance of being dealt was 1/629,740.
Then we talked about playing a 100 line machine and of course the chance is the same as a dealt royal on most VP games such as Jacks or Bonus... but there are more chances with TDB because of AAAAK.
And then our conversation was about are your chances greater with what variety or format to hit that $400k payoff on a single play.
Now... if that helps you...
In TDB there are 2,598,960 different five card combinations that could be dealt. Four of those dealt combinations are royals, 12 dealt combinations are AAAAK. So on a 100 line game you have 16 out of 2,598,960 chances to get $400,000 on a single $500 play.
How many chances do you get with a single line $100 per coin game because you can draw? Is it the same 16 out of 2,598,960?
Now... with the single line game there are also four dealt royals plus the dealt AAAAK hands and then there are also one card, two card, three card, four card and even five card draws.
On a 100 line game there are no draws that will give you the $400k win unless it's a five card draw that gives you a drawn royal on all 100 lines or any other draw that delivers the same cards on each and every line.
And so the question. How many chances on each type of game to hit a $400,000 pay on a single $500 bet?
Quote: AlanMendelson...And so the question. How many chances on each type of game to hit a $400,000 pay on a single $500 bet?
The Wizard's Video Poker Analyzer provides the answers.
For Jacks or Better, it's about one in 23,081. And for Triple Double Bonus, it's about one in 8,076.
To use the analyzer to answer your question, just make all pays that are not 800 for 1 zero.
Quote: AlanMendelsonI saw the the thread about maximizing royals. My question is substantially different.
The question that I'm asking came up in a discussion about how to play $500 of free play. One comment led to another and then this question.
Yes, as I posted, secondary returns are not an issue.
The game you mentioned in the OP is probably the best one for your goal.
Also, if it is as you say, that secondary returns are not an issue, then I would play like this:
. Play "one-line" at the value of the free-play ($100 x 5 coins...).
. then follow this strategy,see link here >>> link
Note: The EV of this strategy is about $49.50
Note 2: This post was basically what Chesterdog said to do (see post above). But I was also trying to answer your question about "what format would I play? " (to maximize the chance of hitting the $400k after one play).
FYI (to anyone else interested): I think if played properly, then the true value of this "free-play" could be $280 or more (depending on the rules of the free-play).
