AlanMendelson
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June 1st, 2020 at 2:44:30 AM permalink
I hope this is the correct place to post this because it's a question.

Suppose I had \$500 to make ONE single bet at video poker with the BEST chance of winning \$400,000 on that single play.

First question: what game would I play?
Second question: what format would I play?

The format could range from single line to any of the multi line games.

REGARDING THE GAME

My thought is TDB because in addition to getting a \$400,000 royal on a single line \$500 bet there's also quad aces with a kicker for \$400k.

In all, there are four royals plus three AAAAK to hit. (Or, are there 12 AAAAK hands?)

REGARDING THE FORMAT

This is where I have a lack of knowledge.

If I were to play a 100 line game at \$1 per coin, I would have to be dealt the royal or the AAAAK hands.

But if I played a single line game I could draw to get a royal or the AAAAK hand.

Again my goal is to play \$500 once for the best shot at \$400k, and secondary payouts don't matter.

Last edited by: AlanMendelson on Jun 1, 2020
SOOPOO
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June 1st, 2020 at 5:27:34 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I hope this is the correct place to post this because it's a question.

Suppose I had \$500 to make ONE single bet at video poker with the BEST chance of winning \$400,000 on that single play.

First question: what game would I play?
Second question: what format would I play?

The format could range from single line to any of the multi line games.

REGARDING THE GAME

My thought is TDB because in addition to getting a \$400,000 royal on a single line \$500 bet there's also quad aces with a kicker for \$400k.

In all, there are four royals plus three AAAAK to hit. (Or, are there 12 AAAAK hands?)

REGARDING THE FORMAT

This is where I have a lack of knowledge.

If I were to play a 100 line game at \$1 per coin, I would have to be dealt the royal or the AAAAK hands.

But if I played a single line game I could draw to get a royal or the AAAAK hand.

Again my goal is to play \$500 once for the best shot at \$400k, and secondary payouts don't matter.

If you are interested, there is another thread already going on what happens if you play just to maximize your chance of getting a royal. Just to be clear, your question implies if you don't win the \$400,000 all other results are just considered a loss? So if you are dealt four 9's and an ace, you will toss the 9's and keep the ace?

By the way, why does this interest you?
AlanMendelson
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June 1st, 2020 at 7:01:00 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

If you are interested, there is another thread already going on what happens if you play just to maximize your chance of getting a royal. Just to be clear, your question implies if you don't win the \$400,000 all other results are just considered a loss? So if you are dealt four 9's and an ace, you will toss the 9's and keep the ace?

By the way, why does this interest you?

I saw the the thread about maximizing royals. My question is substantially different.

The question that I'm asking came up in a discussion about how to play \$500 of free play. One comment led to another and then this question.

Yes, as I posted, secondary returns are not an issue.
WTflush
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June 1st, 2020 at 7:13:24 AM permalink
AAAAK would win \$80,000 on standard a \$100 credit TDB video poker game (5 credits for a \$500 bet)

To win \$400k you have
4 aces + 4 different 2s = 4
4 aces + 4 different 3s= 4
4 aces + 4 different 4s =4
4 different royals = 4
You have 16 possible combinations to win \$400k

Obviously TDB is the only game to play in this nonsense scenario where all other payouts are worthless. If you get dealt 3333A do you toss the \$200,000 3s hoping to draw 4 cards to make a \$400,000 hand?

It doesn't matter if you play 1 line, 10 lines or 1million lines the probability of winning \$400k is still the same. I'm too tired to actually do the math right now but my gut tells me it's around a 1 in 16000 chance.
DRich
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June 1st, 2020 at 7:45:44 AM permalink
Quote: WTflush

AAAAK would win \$80,000 on standard a \$100 credit TDB video poker game (5 credits for a \$500 bet)

To win \$400k you have
4 aces + 4 different 2s = 4
4 aces + 4 different 3s= 4
4 aces + 4 different 4s =4
4 different royals = 4
You have 16 possible combinations to win \$400k

Obviously TDB is the only game to play in this nonsense scenario where all other payouts are worthless. If you get dealt 3333A do you toss the \$200,000 3s hoping to draw 4 cards to make a \$400,000 hand?

It doesn't matter if you play 1 line, 10 lines or 1million lines the probability of winning \$400k is still the same. I'm too tired to actually do the math right now but my gut tells me it's around a 1 in 16000 chance.

I believe he was using AAAAK to denote Aces with a Kicker, not a king.
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AlanMendelson
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June 1st, 2020 at 7:46:27 AM permalink
Tossing 3333A is not a question.

The question is simply which game and format gives you the best chance to turn \$500 into \$400k in one bet?

Why is it that on Internet forums everything has to get twisted?

Next someone is going to ask me if this discussion was with the guy who threw 18 yos in a row.
DRich
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Thanks for this post from:
June 1st, 2020 at 7:49:47 AM permalink
I think your odds would be best playing a machine with the double up option. If you get any win just keep doubling up until you get to your target. Obviously that requires the machine to be set up for Double Up and allowing you to continue until your target.

Hit any four of a kind on Triple Double and I think you would only have to double up four times.
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AlanMendelson
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June 1st, 2020 at 7:59:49 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I think your odds would be best playing a machine with the double up option. If you get any win just keep doubling up until you get to your target. Obviously that requires the machine to be set up for Double Up and allowing you to continue until your target.

Hit any four of a kind on Triple Double and I think you would only have to double up four times.

Many of the quads on TDB pay the same as DDB but it's an interesting idea. Thanks.
rdw4potus
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June 1st, 2020 at 8:04:37 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Tossing 3333A is not a question.

The question is simply which game and format gives you the best chance to turn \$500 into \$400k in one bet?

Why is it that on Internet forums everything has to get twisted?

Next someone is going to ask me if this discussion was with the guy who threw 18 yos in a row.

Maybe it would help if you gave more detail? Like, why \$400k. If 3333A gives \$200k, we'd all take the \$200k. So it's hard to understand why you would throw away that money and chase an incredible long-shot 4 card draw to try to get \$400k. BY FAR the best way to turn \$500 in free play into \$400k, given that you've already received a \$200k hand, is to take that money and keep playing...
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
AlanMendelson
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