RoyallyYours
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February 25th, 2020 at 2:58:09 AM permalink
The second half of this video shows impossibly lucky draws such as drawing quads from a pair 10/10 hands.
How is it possible? Class 2?
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Title: Video Poker 4 of a kind on 10 play draw double double
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February 25th, 2020 at 4:35:43 AM permalink
Quote: RoyallyYours

The second half of this video shows impossibly lucky draws such as drawing quads from a pair 10/10 hands.
How is it possible? Class 2?
https://youtu.be/F7-cnVfRkEc
Uploader: GamblersMix
Title: Video Poker 4 of a kind on 10 play draw double double



The probability of four-of-a-kind from a held pair is one in 3601/3.

So, the probability of turning the next ten pairs to ten quads is (1 / 3601/3)10. This is about one in 37 x 1024. Compare this to the probability of throwing 18 elevens consecutively in craps, which is about one in 39 x 1021.

I like that 18 yo's is 1000 times easier than what appears to happen in this video (starting at 6:40.)
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February 25th, 2020 at 8:06:45 AM permalink
I watched another one of his videos with an SDG/Bally video poker and it was clearly a VLT, with a match card bonus. Not class II, but a pull tab game like in Washington State or New York.
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February 25th, 2020 at 8:19:13 AM permalink
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I watched another one of his videos with an SDG/Bally video poker and it was clearly a VLT, with a match card bonus. Not class II, but a pull tab game like in Washington State or New York.



I worked with SDG and Bally to build their New York video poker with the Match Card.
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February 25th, 2020 at 10:42:07 PM permalink
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I watched another one of his videos with an SDG/Bally video poker and it was clearly a VLT, with a match card bonus. Not class II, but a pull tab game like in Washington State or New York.



9/7/5 Double Bonus with an 80 for 1 Straight Flush for dimes is a bit of a tell too. I don't think that paytable exists on IGT Class III units.

Im surprised they programmed a draw like that though.
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February 25th, 2020 at 11:10:55 PM permalink
Recently, someone playing triple play got dealt a 4 card royal and drew 3 aces to complete all 3 Royals on each line.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 26th, 2020 at 3:27:08 AM permalink
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9/7/5 Double Bonus with an 80 for 1 Straight Flush for dimes is a bit of a tell too. I don't think that paytable exists on IGT Class III units.

Im surprised they programmed a draw like that though.



I had the same thought. They should have just dealt 4 kings instead of this BS.
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February 26th, 2020 at 9:39:44 AM permalink
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I had the same thought. They should have just dealt 4 kings instead of this BS.



When I did lottery poker games we would be given a result from the server of x credits, and then we hadto determine a hand to display that would win x credits. I usually tried to make my result hand based on natural probability of that hand in Class III poker.
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February 27th, 2020 at 6:21:19 AM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

I watched another one of his videos with an SDG/Bally video poker and it was clearly a VLT, with a match card bonus. Not class II, but a pull tab game like in Washington State or New York.

I thought ny vp was class II? (Results Predetermined no matter what cards you held)

What's the difference between class II and bingo pull tab like game?
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February 27th, 2020 at 10:05:03 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

I thought ny vp was class II? (Results Predetermined no matter what cards you held)

What's the difference between class II and bingo pull tab like game?



Technically in class II you're playing bingo with other patrons for some of your wager, but they also award secondary prizes for various bingo combinations on your card solely. For example, getting all 4 corners in the first 4 balls might be mapped to seeing a dealt royal flush. The bingo balls are randomly selected.

With virtual pull tabs, like in WA or NY racinos, there is a finite virtual drum with millions of prize amounts that are randomly selected. Periodically, well before the virtual drum expires of tickets, additional winning and losing virtual pull tabs are added to the drum.

In both class II and virtual pull tabs, strategy for video poker is rendered moot.

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