Why does this make sense?
My hand
Joker Jd 6h 2s 5d
I kept joker only
Game says error I should keep
Joker and 6h
Why would this make any sense?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/video-poker/26195-joker-poker-wtf/
I never really put thought about the math behind it all, but I always assumed it had way more to do with the str8 flush being so valuable on Joker poker. I assumed the straight really had nothing to do with it(other than adding extra value). My guess is that even if the straight paid zero, you would still hold hands like Joker 6 over the lone joker. What do you think?Quote: WizardThe six is also fully open to make a straight around.
Joker 10, 7, 3, 2 (all off) is counter-intuitive to me since the 10 has the extra WR value. It seems that the 7 being fully open to the straight must be the reason for the Joker 7 beating out the Joker 10 even though the 10 has wild royal value.
Quote: AxelWolfI never really put thought about the math behind it all, but I always assumed it had way more to do with the str8 flush being so valuable on Joker poker. I assumed the straight really had nothing to do with it(other than adding extra value). My guess is that even if the straight paid zero, you would still hold hands like Joker 6 over the lone joker. What do you think?
Joker 10, 7, 3, 2 (all off) is counter-intuitive to me since the 10 has the extra WR value. It seems that the 7 being fully open to the straight must be the reason for the Joker 7 beating out the Joker 10 even though the 10 has wild royal value.
As bobbartop explained in the thread I posted, it has to do with the fact you don't get the pair of kings or aces value when you connect on the straight. If you hold Joker,T then draw JQK, you'll get paid for the straight and therefore lose value on that king you drew. Whereas if you hold Joker,7 and draw JQK, you'll get paid for the pair of kings.
Quote: matthewmajI have been trying to brush up on my jw kings or better full pay.
My hand
Joker Jd 6h 2s 5d
I kept joker only
Game says error I should keep
Joker and 6h
Why would this make any sense?
Is there a good Joker game somewhere that we should know about?
I assume they still have them at the Plaza, no?Quote: kgb92Is there a good Joker game somewhere that we should know about?
Quote: kgb92Is there a good Joker game somewhere that we should know about?
Define "good". JP is the game of choice for places that still advertise >100% returns on VP. No more FPDW, that's too easy to play. But if you can actually figure out a strategy that's close enough to optimal, well, there are two flat-tops over there by the...no, you just walked past them...no, past them again...ok, right there, where the 95 year old guys are sitting...
Quote: matthewmajI have been trying to brush up on my jw kings or better full pay.
My hand
Joker Jd 6h 2s 5d
I kept joker only
Game says error I should keep
Joker and 6h
Why would this make any sense?
No flush penalty cards and the straight penalty cards aren't meaningful enough to change the hold. This appears to be correct even with reduced straight flushes and/or 4OaKs, but I didn't check every Joker (Kings) paytable known to man. I checked five or six and it's correct by a good margin.
I would recommend brushing up using the trainer, it's actually pretty rare to keep Joker only, so you don't want that to be your first instinct.
Quote: Mission146No flush penalty cards and the straight penalty cards aren't meaningful enough to change the hold. This appears to be correct even with reduced straight flushes and/or 4OaKs, but I didn't check every Joker (Kings) paytable known to man. I checked five or six and it's correct by a good margin.
I would recommend brushing up using the trainer, it's actually pretty rare to keep Joker only, so you don't want that to be your first instinct.
Lol I played JP for first time ever last week. It was a planet Hollywood so base pay was probably 96% or worse (yep, didnt even look it up) and I play on instincts which had me hold just Joker plenty of times. I probably turned a 96% into 85% but that's ok cause I had about 10 beers while losing my hundy.
Higher than quarters and more than 1 machine in the joint.
