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Minty
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April 24th, 2019 at 6:06:20 AM permalink
The question I'm considering here is about what your time is worth to you. Recently, I noticed a must-hit on the edge of being advantageous. I played some DW off of some free play while waiting as a line of ploppies rotated off the machine for about an hour. Returned after blackjack to see the meter had risen four dollars but was still being played. Casually made a few laps to make an occasional check-in and went to sleep. Next day watched for two more hours as someone played it at a rate of about $1.50 coin in a minute (sigh) and had security hold their seat three different times. How patient are you? When is enough enough?
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April 24th, 2019 at 6:18:10 AM permalink
Depends what else I am doing. If I am hanging at the casino anyways why not. If AP was my living and this was on my route I would spend a fair bit of time. I have other pursuits so no special trip.
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April 24th, 2019 at 6:18:52 AM permalink
Check back periodically or guess a specific time of day to check back. No way am I sitting around watching people play slots for more than three minutes, the misery of every minute doing that cuts off at least an hour or two off career due to faster burnout.
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April 24th, 2019 at 6:27:52 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Check back periodically or guess a specific time of day to check back. No way am I sitting around watching people play slots for more than three minutes, the misery of every minute doing that cuts off at least an hour or two off career due to faster burnout.



That's a fair point. It almost feels like a horror movie watching with the other players in a circle around the machine. Felt like they were closing in like zombies. Haha.
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April 24th, 2019 at 7:13:35 AM permalink
This kind of reminds me of a recent poker promotion to keep people in the room
Playing cash game at Derby Lane, no limit holdem
I get trips and win the hand
Dealer announces I get ticket, trips or higher qualify
Ticket goes in a drum for a 200.00 drawing every hour. Must be present to win
After the drawing, they don't empty the drum so tickets pile up
Guy next to me said he had 21 tickets in the drum so he cant leave
After playing another 30 min, I got up and left despite having a ticket in the drum
I was done playing and a tkt wont keep me in the room
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Minty
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April 24th, 2019 at 7:20:21 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

This kind of reminds me of a recent poker promotion to keep people in the room
Playing cash game at Derby Lane, no limit holdem
I get trips and win the hand
Dealer announces I get ticket, trips or higher qualify
Ticket goes in a drum for a 200.00 drawing every hour. Must be present to win
After the drawing, they don't empty the drum so tickets pile up
Guy next to me said he had 21 tickets in the drum so he cant leave
After playing another 30 min, I got up and left despite having a ticket in the drum
I was done playing and a tkt wont keep me in the room



Yeah, generally I don't stay for the length of those kind of promos, but I've known a person who was called three people after the "final" person since they weren't present. I know another person who was gone and missed out on $800. I'd rather not know I was called if I was absent.
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April 24th, 2019 at 9:43:51 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

The question I'm considering here is about what your time is worth to you. Recently, I noticed a must-hit on the edge of being advantageous. I played some DW off of some free play while waiting as a line of ploppies rotated off the machine for about an hour. Returned after blackjack to see the meter had risen four dollars but was still being played. Casually made a few laps to make an occasional check-in and went to sleep. Next day watched for two more hours as someone played it at a rate of about $1.50 coin in a minute (sigh) and had security hold their seat three different times. How patient are you? When is enough enough?

"On the edge of being advantageous"

Whats it's worth even when you do happen to get on it?

I noticed there are some people who want to jump on stuff just because they know it's slightly advantageous. The play might only be worth $1 in total EV. I guess everyone has their own personal reasons for doing this. They might be board, they just want the gambling action, it might be fun, just so some other AP doesn't eventually get it, it might help deter competition, they want points on their card, just because, etc. I'm not immune to picking off something that really isn't worth that much, I have no clue why is, it's probably for various reasons at different times.
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April 24th, 2019 at 9:53:13 AM permalink
Suppose you.decide your time is worth $20 an hour. Offer the poppies $10 to switch machines and you are ahead.
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:42:27 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Suppose you.decide your time is worth $20 an hour. Offer the poppies $10 to switch machines and you are ahead.



Its not about gaining the seat

He is waiting for the ploppies to rise the meter to a decently advantageous spot.

If its close that would take me a short time since I max bet and button-mash

Ploppies watch every excruciating spin reel one land then reel 2 land etc.

They sit and watch after a large win as the bells and music play while the big "YOU HAVE WON $××××× rises for 5 straight minutes

Meanwhile they are wagering.$.50 per spin.

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Minty
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April 24th, 2019 at 2:16:32 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

"On the edge of being advantageous"

Whats it's worth even when you do happen to get on it?

I noticed there are some people who want to jump on stuff just because they know it's slightly advantageous. The play might only be worth $1 in total EV. I guess everyone has their own personal reasons for doing this. They might be board, they just want the gambling action, it might be fun, just so some other AP doesn't eventually get it, it might help deter competition, they want points on their card, just because, etc. I'm not immune to picking off something that really isn't worth that much, I have no clue why is, it's probably for various reasons at different times.



You're right in that it wouldn't have been real lucrative, but it would have been justified in my opinion. Most conservative estimate would be that any money lost on the play would be made up for in free play, points and better offers (this particular casino is generous and I find that even one or two trips can make a significant mark on offers received) and a looser estimate would be it was worth $100 before those things. I'm sure I've waited for less trivial things in my life.
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